Would You Turn Vegetarian to Slow Global Warming?

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I don't think many people understand farming. For instance, it's impossible to make a real wage in farming (without some form of government subsidy and you can't get rich), but it's possible to get incredibly rich in food manufacturing. Where is the sense in that?

I know a couple corn farmers who make a $^#^ ton of money. Not to mention a lot of them pay cash for those $450,000 to $1,000,000 combines and tractors. John Deere and Harvester's ain't cheap. Field of Dreams is not an accurate adaptation of corn farming.

I don't know what Field of Dreams is, that is not where I source my information. Your 'corn farming mates', what is their current government subsidy level?

I have no idea what their level is, but they grow corn and beans on their own land. I couldn't possibly know the 2 richest farmers around.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No I would not turn vegetarian to stop global warming.

If me turning vegetarian is all that stood between continued human existence on earth and total extinction, I'd opt for extinction.

[Nagishkaw 510]

the living conditions for cows are horrendous. They often stand in areas with little-to-no room and are surrounded by their own feces. Eventually these cows acquire an infection or two, so antibiotics are given -- which apparently get absorbed into the cow's meat and can trickle down into those who eat the cow later on. The cows are also given growth hormones which adversely affect them.

:crying: :crying:

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No I would not turn vegetarian to stop global warming.

If me turning vegetarian is all that stood between continued human existence on earth and total extinction, I'd opt for extinction.

Would you go vegetarian in exchange for "sex on tap"?

[HAL 9000 96]

AJ has arrived. It is now time to ask us guys:

Would you give up meat if your ####### cold be enlarged?

Perhaps a poll should be started.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't think many people understand farming. For instance, it's impossible to make a real wage in farming (without some form of government subsidy and you can't get rich), but it's possible to get incredibly rich in food manufacturing. Where is the sense in that?

I know a couple corn farmers who make a $^#^ ton of money. Not to mention a lot of them pay cash for those $450,000 to $1,000,000 combines and tractors. John Deere and Harvester's ain't cheap. Field of Dreams is not an accurate adaptation of corn farming.

I don't know what Field of Dreams is, that is not where I source my information. Your 'corn farming mates', what is their current government subsidy level?

I have no idea what their level is, but they grow corn and beans on their own land. I couldn't possibly know the 2 richest farmers around.

I don't know if you could or you could not. My point is that agriculture as a business is not very profitable in general whereas food manufacturing pointedly is. There is profit in the food business, but not at the point of production. There is something very wrong with this picture, in my opinion.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No I would not turn vegetarian to stop global warming.

If me turning vegetarian is all that stood between continued human existence on earth and total extinction, I'd opt for extinction.

Would you go vegetarian in exchange for "sex on tap"?

Depends on who's on tap. Not any woman is worth giving up meat.

[Der Bücherwurm 1]

Well, my favorite meal is red beans and rice so giving up meat 2-3 days a week would be no problem for me.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Good quality meat is expensive, so I see limiting my meat intake as an economic decision rather than an environmental one.

[Mark&Steph 0]

Has anyone here read The Omnivore's Dilemma? If not, I'd suggest picking it up. It explains, in detail, the long term effects of mass production farming (in reference to meat and the overproduction of corn) and how the living conditions for cows are horrendous. They often stand in areas with little-to-no room and are surrounded by their own feces. Eventually these cows acquire an infection or two, so antibiotics are given -- which apparently get absorbed into the cow's meat and can trickle down into those who eat the cow later on. The cows are also given growth hormones which adversely affect them.

Sustainable farming, that which allows cows a pasture to room and eat on, produce healthier animals and therefore, better quality meat. The real problem isn't the expense (most farmers wouldn't need government subsidies if they worked this way), but the time and effort. Penning cows up is an easier solution for the farmer.

Its about getting the most production value out of each square foot of land. Very scientific, but ethically questionable.

Ethically questionable and not very healthy.

Everyone should watch the documentary Food, Inc. It's quite an eye opener.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I recommend Fast Food Nation - the slaughterhouse scene is very harrowing, and its real.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It would be a drastic solution that may end up being forced on a future generation anyway due to decreased arable land. Yeah, that's right. Moving north with farms and ranches won't yield much arable land due to that land not being properly progressed for that kind of use.

Hopefully policy will follow the voice of reason on this and stem the major causative factors first so the catastrophic changes already in commencement won't hit our grandkids too hard.

That's when the steak eaters start eating people.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

There will always be rats.

[DeadPoolX 9]

There will always be rats.

Mmmm... rat on a stick and mouse in a box. Rat McNuggets? Rat tail pasta. I can see this going somewhere (and that's probably in the toilet after people realize what they've just eaten).

[HannahP 119]

Meh. I'm an ethical vegetarian, have been for 15 years. I do cook humanely slaughtered, free-range, sustainable meat for my husband. (Vegetarianism is my choice, not his.)

Can't really say that slowing global warming EVER popped into my head re. being a vegetarian. I don't think it occurs to most vegetarians, although that tends to become a secondary thang.