Advice for RFE

[tglea 0]

I got the same RFE for two different AOS applications(from K1 and K2). My joint sponsor is the same person for both applicants. Here is what it reads:

The joint sponsor on Form I-864, must be a US citizen, US national, or LPR of the USA.

In order to process your application further, submit evidence of the joint sponsor's status.

I was aware of this and I included a copy of my joint sponsor's birth certificate to satisfy that requirement. I don't understand what the problem was really. Here are my thoughts:

1. They didn't see the birth certificate copy

2. The birth certificate was on security paper so the copy that I made had VOID across it in various locations. I suspect that might be the issue they have but surely they must know about security paper. I don't beleive my joint sponsor has a different birth certificate I can copy.

If they do in fact have a problem with the copy having Void written across it and I send the same copy to them with this RFE, could they deny the case or something and say I didn't comply. I guess that is my biggest worry about sending in the same copy that I sent the first time.

Do I just need to submit the evidence or do I also have to submit a new I-864 form as well?

One other thing. I did check the form and the box next to I am a US citizen was checked.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[samy1979 0]

i got a ref twice .

first time they said my I--864 A was an old version ( despite the joint sponsor in my case cant file this one because he doesnt live in the same household )

I sent them this a week later i got another ref saying that they need to know the status of the joint sponsor .

my advice is send them a clear copy of the birth certificate or U.S passport. I didnt have a clear copy of the birth certificate so i sent a clear copy of the passport .

[JERIII 8]

I got the same RFE for two different AOS applications(from K1 and K2). My joint sponsor is the same person for both applicants. Here is what it reads:

The joint sponsor on Form I-864, must be a US citizen, US national, or LPR of the USA.

In order to process your application further, submit evidence of the joint sponsor's status.

I was aware of this and I included a copy of my joint sponsor's birth certificate to satisfy that requirement. I don't understand what the problem was really. Here are my thoughts:

1. They didn't see the birth certificate copy

2. The birth certificate was on security paper so the copy that I made had VOID across it in various locations. I suspect that might be the issue they have but surely they must know about security paper. I don't beleive my joint sponsor has a different birth certificate I can copy.

If they do in fact have a problem with the copy having Void written across it and I send the same copy to them with this RFE, could they deny the case or something and say I didn't comply. I guess that is my biggest worry about sending in the same copy that I sent the first time.

Do I just need to submit the evidence or do I also have to submit a new I-864 form as well?

One other thing. I did check the form and the box next to I am a US citizen was checked.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

USCIS splits the package you send them into pieces, and sometimes the documents go with the wrong piece. You only have to submit what they ask for, not the form.

In most places in the US, it is easy and quick to order birth certificates on line, perhaps your sponsor could get two new ones for you, to avoid the security paper issue. Also, you could also send a copy of the sponsor's passport.

[tglea 0]

I got the same RFE for two different AOS applications(from K1 and K2). My joint sponsor is the same person for both applicants. Here is what it reads:

The joint sponsor on Form I-864, must be a US citizen, US national, or LPR of the USA.

In order to process your application further, submit evidence of the joint sponsor's status.

I was aware of this and I included a copy of my joint sponsor's birth certificate to satisfy that requirement. I don't understand what the problem was really. Here are my thoughts:

1. They didn't see the birth certificate copy

2. The birth certificate was on security paper so the copy that I made had VOID across it in various locations. I suspect that might be the issue they have but surely they must know about security paper. I don't beleive my joint sponsor has a different birth certificate I can copy.

If they do in fact have a problem with the copy having Void written across it and I send the same copy to them with this RFE, could they deny the case or something and say I didn't comply. I guess that is my biggest worry about sending in the same copy that I sent the first time.

Do I just need to submit the evidence or do I also have to submit a new I-864 form as well?

One other thing. I did check the form and the box next to I am a US citizen was checked.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

USCIS splits the package you send them into pieces, and sometimes the documents go with the wrong piece. You only have to submit what they ask for, not the form.

In most places in the US, it is easy and quick to order birth certificates on line, perhaps your sponsor could get two new ones for you, to avoid the security paper issue. Also, you could also send a copy of the sponsor's passport.

I'll double check, but I don't think my sponsor has a passport. Also, her birth certificate shows a different last name than her current married name. I don't think that should have been an issue though.

I don't want to risk pissing them off by sending the same copy as the first one in with the RFE, so I guess I'll ask my sponsor to get two new ones and send those in.

I'd still like to know what the problem was but of course the Help line information was useless.

[JERIII 8]

USCIS splits the package you send them into pieces, and sometimes the documents go with the wrong piece. You only have to submit what they ask for, not the form.

In most places in the US, it is easy and quick to order birth certificates on line, perhaps your sponsor could get two new ones for you, to avoid the security paper issue. Also, you could also send a copy of the sponsor's passport.

I'll double check, but I don't think my sponsor has a passport. Also, her birth certificate shows a different last name than her current married name. I don't think that should have been an issue though.

I think that would be an issue, did you explain why the birth certificate was different? If you did not, USCIS is not going to know that the certificate is for the right person. You probably want to send a marriage certificate, if possible, or at least a letter of explanation.

[tglea 0]

USCIS splits the package you send them into pieces, and sometimes the documents go with the wrong piece. You only have to submit what they ask for, not the form.

In most places in the US, it is easy and quick to order birth certificates on line, perhaps your sponsor could get two new ones for you, to avoid the security paper issue. Also, you could also send a copy of the sponsor's passport.

I'll double check, but I don't think my sponsor has a passport. Also, her birth certificate shows a different last name than her current married name. I don't think that should have been an issue though.

I think that would be an issue, did you explain why the birth certificate was different? If you did not, USCIS is not going to know that the certificate is for the right person. You probably want to send a marriage certificate, if possible, or at least a letter of explanation.

Really? Does anyone else have some insight on this? It's not that I don't like your advice but it seems ridiculous that they wouldn't expect a 50 some year old woman to have a different last name than the one that is on her birth certificate. Her maiden name is the same as mine and my wife's. Are these people really that ####### or they just don't pay attention to detail? I mean they have her SSN to reference as well.

I wouldn't really know what to send in as proof of her current name because she is no longer married but she did keep her ex's last name after the divorce.

[samy1979 0]

you can order th birth certificate yourself online it would take 3 days to deliver it

[JERIII 8]

USCIS splits the package you send them into pieces, and sometimes the documents go with the wrong piece. You only have to submit what they ask for, not the form.

In most places in the US, it is easy and quick to order birth certificates on line, perhaps your sponsor could get two new ones for you, to avoid the security paper issue. Also, you could also send a copy of the sponsor's passport.

I'll double check, but I don't think my sponsor has a passport. Also, her birth certificate shows a different last name than her current married name. I don't think that should have been an issue though.

I think that would be an issue, did you explain why the birth certificate was different? If you did not, USCIS is not going to know that the certificate is for the right person. You probably want to send a marriage certificate, if possible, or at least a letter of explanation.

Really? Does anyone else have some insight on this? It's not that I don't like your advice but it seems ridiculous that they wouldn't expect a 50 some year old woman to have a different last name than the one that is on her birth certificate. Her maiden name is the same as mine and my wife's. Are these people really that ####### or they just don't pay attention to detail? I mean they have her SSN to reference as well.

I wouldn't really know what to send in as proof of her current name because she is no longer married but she did keep her ex's last name after the divorce.

I don't have a direct reference to this situation, but for example, in the USCIS instructions for petitioning a parent, it says this:

# A copy of your birth certificate showing your name and your mother’s name

# If your name or your mother’s name is different now than at the time of your birth, you must provide evidence of the legal name change.

You can send a marriage certificate, she probably still has one.

[tglea 0]

Ok. Thanks for the help.