Another idiot with a gun

[john & jean 37]

yes, you did agree with natty's post. or do you just run off and post without thinking about the ramifications?

now tell me what's so special about a high capacity magazine? a bit of practice and one can swap out magazines in a very short time. that is, after all, what they were designed for.

ammo piercing ammo is already banned for private use. surely you knew that, didn't you? no?

as for sharing information between state and federal government, you might check out the brady bill and what it requires. it's already in effect, although as from the story in the op, not effectively.

and before anyone else decides to fire rounds my way, i'm all for someone losing their firearms on the first incident of domestic violence........

First sane thing you've said all day

As who my employer is, I'm privy to quite a bit of info that I can't share. However, I can tell you charles that there are companies out there that still produce those rounds. They simply modify one aspect of them and sell them under the radar. Yes, I do agree that someone trained could reload smaller magazines quickly enough that they could pump out almost as many rounds as a high capacity. However, I'm not worried so much about those with that sort of training. Someone with law enforcement, or military training could do a lot more damage with a lot less than your average citizen. Those people are also a lot smaller in number.

How can you honestly defend having high capacity magazines or assault rifles?

now we're off on assault rifles.......

and somewhere on vj i've posted before two pics and asked for people to identify the "assault rifle" funny thing was, only those familiar with guns knew the answer.

it was the same gun, just cosmetic modifications were made.

It was the "Hello Kitty" version that couldn't possibly hurt a flea, right?

actually it was a mini-14

You are right. My BB gun looks more scary than this boy scout pea shooter.

you can dress a ruger 10/22 to look like a wmd, too!!!

[HAL 9000 96]

all aggressors, foreign and DOMESTIC... nothing fuzzy

Hmmm... so you're implying that those 'millions' who've died defending these constitutional rights... have done so against domestic aggressors?

I'd love to see that history book in your library.

Anyway... lets see where this thread goes. With your entrance and Charles' insistence on seeing things that are not there I can predict that things will go nowhere rational very fast.

TTAYL

don't recognize that? i'm not surprised.......

enemies of the us can be domestic too ya know.

I think the writing was quite clear. Did McVeigh kill millions in OKC (RIP ) ?? Lets make logical arguments OK?

1.) As who my employer is, I'm privy to quite a bit of info that I can't share.

2.) Yes, I do agree that someone trained could reload smaller magazines quickly enough that they could pump out almost as many rounds as a high capacity. However, I'm not worried so much about those with that sort of training. Someone with law enforcement, or military training could do a lot more damage with a lot less than your average citizen. Those people are also a lot smaller in number.

3.) Hmmm... so you're implying that those 'millions' who've died defending these constitutional rights... have done so against domestic aggressors?

I'd love to see that history book in your library.

1.) you must be in her majesty's secret service.

2.) years ago we called remington pump guns "potter county machine guns". pennsylvania does not allow the use of autoloaders in hunting, so we do the best we can with what is allowed. pennsylvania puts a million hunters in the field on the opening day of each deer season. some of them are tyros, but many are quiet men who only need one shot. many of them have "assault rifles" just for the hell of it, and train with them on a regular basis. in the days of $69/1000 ammo some i knew went through 5000-1000 rounds a year, right next to me.

as far as law enforcement, not many that i have met have significant training or the correct mindset to kill without compunction. they are not "soldiers of the law", just bullies with badges, with a few honorable exceptions.

as for past military, most are REMF with no combat experience, and today's combat troops are "turkey shooters", trained on fish in a barrel in the sandbox. some have high kill numbers, but these kills were not earned against trained and battle hardened troops. prolly 90% of ex GI are more dangerous to themselves with a gun than to anyone else. look at that jessica what's her name with the silver star. she neglected to maintain her rifle, so did not get off a single shot when her convoy was ambushed. one of the other fellows in her convoy went through his entire load out and some pick-ups, but didn't get a star because he didn't have a #######. i'd ride with him any day, and have her making coffee.

3.) you are forgetting a few important events in between 1776 and 1783, and between 1861 and 1865.

Nice annotation of quotes from different posts. You are not worth the wasted time, so you'll continue to be ignored.

don't recognize that? i'm not surprised.......

enemies of the us can be domestic too ya know.

As a result, access to certain substances are further restricted. Heck, the other day I had to show ID to purchase baking soda. Or is that just a new Target supercentre thing.

maybe it's just you?

You didn't ask him if he was also buying vinegar and red food coloring.

[Peikko 1,575]

at least i'm a bit more broad minded about gun ownership and have some expertise in the matter, as opposed to you.

I don't purport to be a gun expert. As to how 'broad minded' I am regarding gun ownership - that's guess work on your part. The only things you know for certain about my opinion on guns is that it's foolish to assume a cavalier attitude about firearms in order to further an agenda. Foolish in the extreme. That it's foolish to believe that gun owners are some how safer than non gun owners and that there is no correlation between legal gun ownership and gun crime and finally that this notion that gun ownership rights guarentee the integrity of freedom as being about as foolish a notion as you can get. That's all you know because that's all I have ever posted.

what i do know is this - any time there is something about taking away guns, you're there......

As a response to what I posted, that's meaningless.

[HAL 9000 96]

Why then do you make the immediate leap to the assumption that if Crazy Joe has his gun taken away from him, someone is going to take it away from you?

Let me give you one example of how this type of thing ALREADY operates in civilized society. If Gangster Joe gets put in prison, he loses his rights - including his second amendment right. Has that affected your rights to the second amendment?

that first sentence - i wonder how many people said that in england?

and in some states, those get revoked rights get reinstated.

next?

You. Didn't. Answer. The. Questions.

so sue me.

Well that's just being bullheaded.

kinda like some are when gun laws and ownership is explained to them?

personally, i tend to think we'll see more and more instances like this as the left wingers continue their campaign to paint gun owners as "nutcases" "weirdos" and so on. and as more and more fall for the rhetoric and dispose of their means of self defense, that's just more unarmed victims for the dregs of society to prey upon.

As much as we'll continue to see actual lunatics killing their own families with legally purchased firearms.

[HAL 9000 96]

What I suspected was right, too.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

What I suspected was right, too.

Govament money must be nice huh?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

What I suspected was right, too.

Govament money must be nice huh?

Speaking of idiots...................

[SuperDuper! 230]

I can't believe you guys dredge up Tim McVeigh in order to give your argument validity. It's like the old saying, "Whenever someone makes a Hitler reference, they are immediately on the LOSING side of an argument."

And hey, it wasn't McVeigh's fault he did what he did: After all, he was BULLIED at school, and did not know how to talk to girls, so cut him some slack!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

[rebeccajo 14]

kinda like some are when gun laws and ownership is explained to them?

personally, i tend to think we'll see more and more instances like this as the left wingers continue their campaign to paint gun owners as "nutcases" "weirdos" and so on. and as more and more fall for the rhetoric and dispose of their means of self defense, that's just more unarmed victims for the dregs of society to prey upon.

*sigh*

Charles you are just so seriously over-reaching.

I give up.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

What I suspected was right, too.

Govament money must be nice huh?

Speaking of idiots...................

You mean the hole betwixed yo legs talks?

[HAL 9000 96]

What I suspected was right, too.

Govament money must be nice huh?

Speaking of idiots...................

Sometimes I have no idea what the endless blabber blabs about.

[SuperDuper! 230]

kinda like some are when gun laws and ownership is explained to them?

personally, i tend to think we'll see more and more instances like this as the left wingers continue their campaign to paint gun owners as "nutcases" "weirdos" and so on. and as more and more fall for the rhetoric and dispose of their means of self defense, that's just more unarmed victims for the dregs of society to prey upon.

*sigh*

Charles you are just so seriously over-reaching.

I give up.

This is EXACTLY the end result that I was waiting to see. Abortion, Gun Control, Religion, Politics: The end result of these toxic topics only leave us exasperated, unsatisfied, and not feeling good, the same as hitting one's head against your favorite brick wall. What do we learn from this, boys and girls?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

What I suspected was right, too.

Govament money must be nice huh?

Speaking of idiots...................

Sometimes I have no idea what the endless blabber blabs about.

We KNOW!

[HAL 9000 96]

Time to bump up the retards thread.

Good night y' all.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Time to bump up the retards thread.

Good night y' all.

TYPICAL!

Edited September 9, 2009 by ={Rogue}=