Obama's Plot to Brainwash Your Children!

[alienlovechild 75]

I had a teacher at college that pushed his conservative Republican religious agenda. It was in a class that was suppose to study the bible as a literary work, not as a religious guide. He didn't seem to understand that though.

You had a single teacher at the college level pushing religion in a class on the Bible as literature? It's not a class in K-12 and you should expect some religion in a class on the Bible.

It is very inexpensive to homeschool your kids.

Naturally most of us don't need to work to make money. We just get welfare checks or money from our parents. Hard to believe you could write that one as a serious answer so I assuming that was sarcasm.

[Heracles 417]

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Amen, to that.

But imagine the fall-out to: "We're bailing out of these two wars and spending the money to invest in Education."[/color]

This would be tantamount to; saving money by one means and then throwing that money into another sink-hole.

HInt: there is no connection between gov't spending money on education... and any sizable improvement being the result.

That is also the biggest bull ####### I have ever heard. That investing in education would not pay off. It's called priorities, the rest of the developed world doesn;t spend $750 billion annually to fund troops. Which excludes the trillion or so spent on the two wars.

That is money that could have been spent in America and on Americans. Instead it was flushed down the toilet and is funding orgies and piss-ups in Afghan. Come to think of it Blackwater was based of of NC and your in NC. Explains a lot of the bias.

Naturally most of us don't need to work to make money. We just get welfare checks or money from our parents. Hard to believe you could write that one as a serious answer so I assuming that was sarcasm.

Yeah it's called the military.

Edited September 5, 2009 by Booyah!

[Danno 1,228]

As to the Russian's prediction, I seriously see this country heading to a civil war 2.0. The divide between the two ideologies is huge. This is not some fringe group either. All it take is for something to happen and the situation could very easily hit the fan.

You are no doubt right, at some people another "declaration Independence" by a group of Americans will emerge and we will see what happens.

It's been done twice now with a 50/50 success rate.

"A house divided cannot stand"

[alienlovechild 75]

I seriously see this country heading to a civil war 2.0. The divide between the two ideologies is huge. This is not some fringe group either. All it take is for something to happen and the situation could very easily hit the fan.

Really? How will this happen? Who are the in opposing camps?

I'd say there is a zero chance of that happening as there's no single galvanizing issue. A war on healthcare perhaps? There's huge middle class and outlets for dissent. Mostt Americans follow the U.S. Constitution and only differ on some interpretions. Few seriously want a new form of government.

If you were serious you'd take your wealth and flee the country. You're another foreigner who really doesn't understand this country but gets all his news from the media, gets scared and then does nothing after all. Are your neighbors barricading your street with snipers on the roofs?

Edited September 5, 2009 by alienlovechild

[natty bumppo 297]

I had a teacher at college that pushed his conservative Republican religious agenda. It was in a class that was suppose to study the bible as a literary work, not as a religious guide. He didn't seem to understand that though.

You had a single teacher at the college level pushing religion in a class on the Bible as literature? It's not a class in K-12 and you should expect some religion in a class on the Bible.

I took a course called "old testament as literature" in college. it was definitely different. the prof keep the religous aspect out which was a bit of a trick and did a good job with the course.

when I lived in the bible belt (was considered a heathen/ heretic cause I didn't tow the local religious line) I managed to keep up with my co-workers in discussions on the bible ... really pissed them off to.

[Danno 1,228]

I seriously see this country heading to a civil war 2.0. The divide between the two ideologies is huge. This is not some fringe group either. All it take is for something to happen and the situation could very easily hit the fan.

Really? How will this happen? Who are the in opposing camps?

I'd say there is a zero chance of that happening as there's no single galvanizing issue. A war on healthcare perhaps? There's huge middle class and outlets for dissent. Mostt Americans follow the U.S. Constitution and only differ on some interpretions. Few seriously want a new form of government.

If you were serious you'd take your wealth and flee the country. You're another foreigner who really doesn't understand this country but gets all his news from the media, gets scared and then does nothing after all. Are your neighbors barricading your street with snipers on the roofs?

OF course the biggest issue which prevents a "near" Civil war is the lack of geographic dividing lines.

[Heracles 417]

If you were serious you'd take your wealth and flee the country. You're another foreigner who really doesn't understand this country but gets all his news from the media, gets scared and then does nothing after all. Are your neighbors barricading your street with snipers on the roofs?

Understand. Pleeease. You're just another ignorant and biased repub who still holds on this misguided view that you are the envy of the world. Therefore, no other opinions or international examples of success are valid or count. Furthermore, no one can tell you or show you otherwise. Same way you guys refuse to accept the experience of those who have used both types of health care systems but will take the word of someone like Rush, who says the Canadian system is bad.

[AlHayatZween 2]

Lets not pretend the schoolhouse is the place for a battle of view points.

Sorry if i'm misreading your post...

But isn't the schoolhouse a place for kids to confront different viewpoints? Not elementary kids so much, but older kids? The world isn't made of monolithic opintions....

Isn't the schoolhouse where we teach them to debate, the skills from which are the same used to learn to write persuasive essays, analysis, and using evidence to prove points? These are skills for success and credibility in their futures....

Did you miss the part where this message is for ALL students so your point is as logical as suggesting wood shop is okay for all grades because high schoolers can handle it.

Why don't you people just admit Team Obama fumbled here a little.

i don't think it is a fumble. i think it is a suggested lesson plan, take it or leave it.... or revamp it to fit your classroom.

My point was about the value of educated debate in Junior High and High School.

The president's address is supposedly intended for younger students...

"Among the activities the government initially suggested for prekindergarten to sixth-grade students: that they " write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."

[Heracles 417]

You know what the irony is Alien, Repubs live breath and die money. Yet Aussies who are living, sleeping, eating the principles and type of society repubss hate, are severely kicking your azz in wealth. Especially the south which is grotesquely poor. I could actually say destroy. Spit you out like a watermelon seed. Particularly blue collar worker vs blue collar worker. So when I read utter rubbish about being a foreigner, I first off think no sh-t Einstein but second of all I laugh. In another thread I listed some of things my cousins who is a blue collar worker over there owns, I would like to see some of you even attempt to compete with that. Come on.. You should be able to walk the wealth talk. Since you preach about not giving a ####### about the poor or little guy. Newsflash: you are the poor little guy.

Excluding rights issues, illegal immigration, and the likes of your ACLU's, issues the dems are completely wrong on, they get all of the other issues. They get and see the optimum solution to solving them. Whereas, repubs are holding on to some sort of warped and misguided Reaganomics. When you were battling a single Russia rather than a range of new and improved competitors like China. Even then, Russia wasn't manufacturing 90% of your goods were they?

Once again issues like this have shown to me that republicans don't know what they are doing. The first politician to make light of this was a repub from Florida. A state riddled with crime, drugs and corruption. Yet in his mind, or probably more disingenuously, he diverts attention from his failure in these areas and attacks a speech by his president to motivate kids.

Edited September 5, 2009 by Booyah!

[Danno 1,228]

(Boyaa loves to think he is the only one with stamps on his passport...... )

[AlHayatZween 2]

This would be tantamount to; saving money by one means and then throwing that money into another sink-hole.

HInt: there is no connection between gov't spending money on education... and any sizable improvement being the result.

If you want real improvment in children's education, let the people who love the the most get back in charge.

GIVE PARENTS VOUCHERS.

Here is where we disagree, i don't think of investing in Education as a sink-hole. Call me a nostalgic American, but i truly believe the better educated you are, the better you can improve your social situation & future success, give back to the community, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, etc...

i thought you guys hated vouchers...

[natty bumppo 297]

You know what the irony is Alien, Repubs live breath and die money. Yet Aussies who are living, sleeping, eating the principles and type of society repubss hate, are severely kicking your azz in wealth. Especially the south which is grotesquely poor. I could actually say destroy. Spit you out like a watermelon seed. Particularly blue collar worker vs blue collar worker. So when I read utter rubbish about being a foreigner, I first off think no sh-t Einstein but second of all I laugh. In another thread I listed some of things my cousins who is a blue collar worker over there owns, I would like to see some of you even attempt to compete with that. Come on.. You should be able to walk the wealth talk. Since you preach about not giving a ####### about the poor or little guy. Newsflash: you are the poor little guy.

forgot to brag on the affordable AUS housing ...

Edited September 5, 2009 by Natty Bumppo

[Heracles 417]

(Boyaa loves to think he is the only one with stamps on his passport...... )

Which foreign military bases have ya'llz traveled to..

[natty bumppo 297]

(Boyaa loves to think he is the only one with stamps on his passport...... )

Which foreign military bases have ya'llz traveled to..

is that AUS speak for southern?

[Heracles 417]

forgot to brag on the affordable AUS housing ...

Is housing in Manhattan affordable? Yes or No

Why do you think housing in Manhattan has hit the million dollar price mark?

To the contrary, why do you think I could buy an entire house in Texas using my Amex card?

Edited September 5, 2009 by Booyah!