ADMISTRATIVE REVIEW

[spokaneblueyes 0]

I see alot for couples for the middle east being put on Admistrative Review. Could some please tell me what that is. And how long it has taken to get throught it.

[Together4ever 1]

There seems to be a lot of confusion "out there" regarding administrative processing and administrative review. A lot of times even the consulates will flip the terms around in their correspondences from one to the other. This has been my experience and the experience of a few others here.

It was my understanding that "process" means they are doing standard security checks and "review" means they are investigating the case more thoroughly, but don't put 100% accuracy on this.

You may want to do a forum search on the topic. Hopefully another member who is more knowledgeable will be along to give you more accurate information.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Well. It can mean a lot of things, from looking over your evidence and paperwork, to doing home visits to check on the beneficiary, to sending to Washington for security/background checks by the Department of State/FBI/etc.

The timeframe can vary from merely hours to months, even years, depending on what the consulate determines needs to be done, which particular consulate you're dealing with, and a whole lot of other variables.

Sorry, but there is absolutely no guarantee on how quickly or slowly an AR might proceed. You can get some idea of what you might expect by taking a look at other similar cases that have gone through the same consulate, but remember -- no two cases are exactly alike.

At what stage are you in the process ? Have you gotten an interview scheduled yet ?

Wishing you all the best in your visa journey... I will add you to the Cheerleading thread so we can all root for you as you move through the system !

-MK

[spokaneblueyes 0]

We have an approved I 130 and had our interview at the embassy in tunisia. After the interview i was told immigration visa was going to be denied and sent back to the USA. But two later someone from the embassy was sent to interview his family in Tunis and now I am being told it is pending. I can not find anyone that this has happen to. Thank for the words of hope.

[babybunny 2]

We have an approved I 130 and had our interview at the embassy in tunisia. After the interview i was told immigration visa was going to be denied and sent back to the USA. But two later someone from the embassy was sent to interview his family in Tunis and now I am being told it is pending. I can not find anyone that this has happen to. Thank for the words of hope.

AP/AR are two diffrent things. seems like if you got denied. its 221g. more likely to be TEMP denial.

thats a lot diffrent than 212. keep in mind you have 2 petitions pending. one is I-129f < k-3 >

the other is I-130. you need to find out specificly whats going on with your case by e mailing the embassy.

when sending anyting to the embassy, DOS or congressm man.

always include

your name, spouses name , spouses DOB, and your case number. also the following statement.

other wise they wont act on your behalf. good luck!

In accordance with the Privacy Act of 1974, you and your staff are hereby

authorized to freely discuss any and all aspects of my situation.

Sincerely,

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

This really does seem like a 221g, which is not a denial "per se," but a notice that more information or investigation or processing is required before they can approve your visa.

As Shonnie mentioned here, a 212g is the consulate's official notice of intent to deny, and which informs you that your case is being sent back to USCIS for either re-affirmation or confirmation of denial. And it seems unlikely that the consulate would initiate a "home visit" to investigate further if they had already made the decision to issue a 212g.

Also, I can't remember a case where the actual document of 221g or 212g was not issued at the conclusion of the interview, but then again we haven't seen a whole lot of the cases going through Tunisia -- it's possible that it works differently than the "norm" everyone would expect.

But good advice from Shonnie here -- call or email the consulate, as well as your congress representative, and see what you can find out. You deserve to know !

By the way, what was the date of your interview ? I want to keep the Cheerleading thread updated, as this info is very useful to other members in understanding how each particular consulate operates.

Wishing you the very best in getting answers, and ending with success in your visa journey ! Please keep us "in the loop."

-MK

[morocco4ever 63]

This really does seem like a 221g, which is not a denial "per se," but a notice that more information or investigation or processing is required before they can approve your visa.

As Shonnie mentioned here, a 212g is the consulate's official notice of intent to deny, and which informs you that your case is being sent back to USCIS for either re-affirmation or confirmation of denial. And it seems unlikely that the consulate would initiate a "home visit" to investigate further if they had already made the decision to issue a 212g.

Also, I can't remember a case where the actual document of 221g or 212g was not issued at the conclusion of the interview, but then again we haven't seen a whole lot of the cases going through Tunisia -- it's possible that it works differently than the "norm" everyone would expect.

But good advice from Shonnie here -- call or email the consulate, as well as your congress representative, and see what you can find out. You deserve to know !

By the way, what was the date of your interview ? I want to keep the Cheerleading thread updated, as this info is very useful to other members in understanding how each particular consulate operates.

Wishing you the very best in getting answers, and ending with success in your visa journey ! Please keep us "in the loop."

-MK

Those facts are a little off. Those of us that have had our petitions sent back to the CIS were issued a 221g, not a 212g. The difference means that in every sense of the word our cases are approvable, but they believe they have evidence that the CIS didn't have when they approved our petition. They have no authority to revoke the petition, so they have to send it back to the CIS to do it. I hope that made sense.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

This really does seem like a 221g, which is not a denial "per se," but a notice that more information or investigation or processing is required before they can approve your visa.

As Shonnie mentioned here, a 212g is the consulate's official notice of intent to deny, and which informs you that your case is being sent back to USCIS for either re-affirmation or confirmation of denial. And it seems unlikely that the consulate would initiate a "home visit" to investigate further if they had already made the decision to issue a 212g.

Also, I can't remember a case where the actual document of 221g or 212g was not issued at the conclusion of the interview, but then again we haven't seen a whole lot of the cases going through Tunisia -- it's possible that it works differently than the "norm" everyone would expect.

But good advice from Shonnie here -- call or email the consulate, as well as your congress representative, and see what you can find out. You deserve to know !

By the way, what was the date of your interview ? I want to keep the Cheerleading thread updated, as this info is very useful to other members in understanding how each particular consulate operates.

Wishing you the very best in getting answers, and ending with success in your visa journey ! Please keep us "in the loop."

-MK

Those facts are a little off. Those of us that have had our petitions sent back to the CIS were issued a 221g, not a 212g. The difference means that in every sense of the word our cases are approvable, but they believe they have evidence that the CIS didn't have when they approved our petition. They have no authority to revoke the petition, so they have to send it back to the CIS to do it. I hope that made sense.

Thank you for clarifying !

So a 221g "may" or "may not" involve a send-back to the service center, but the 212g is a flat-out denial and guarantees a send-back to the service center. So, if the USCIS upholds the Consulate's decision to deny, then does USCIS issue a 212g ?

[spokaneblueyes 0]

Thank you wife of mahamoud and morocco4ever for the advice. I will call the embassy I was never given eather one of this form. My interview was on June 8th 2006 Nine month from the time I filed the I 130 with the embassy in Tunisia. Long wait to not to get a yes or a no. Just it being processed. LOL

[babybunny 2]

This really does seem like a 221g, which is not a denial "per se," but a notice that more information or investigation or processing is required before they can approve your visa.

As Shonnie mentioned here, a 212g is the consulate's official notice of intent to deny, and which informs you that your case is being sent back to USCIS for either re-affirmation or confirmation of denial. And it seems unlikely that the consulate would initiate a "home visit" to investigate further if they had already made the decision to issue a 212g.

Also, I can't remember a case where the actual document of 221g or 212g was not issued at the conclusion of the interview, but then again we haven't seen a whole lot of the cases going through Tunisia -- it's possible that it works differently than the "norm" everyone would expect.

But good advice from Shonnie here -- call or email the consulate, as well as your congress representative, and see what you can find out. You deserve to know !

By the way, what was the date of your interview ? I want to keep the Cheerleading thread updated, as this info is very useful to other members in understanding how each particular consulate operates.

Wishing you the very best in getting answers, and ending with success in your visa journey ! Please keep us "in the loop."

-MK

Those facts are a little off. Those of us that have had our petitions sent back to the CIS were issued a 221g, not a 212g. The difference means that in every sense of the word our cases are approvable, but they believe they have evidence that the CIS didn't have when they approved our petition. They have no authority to revoke the petition, so they have to send it back to the CIS to do it. I hope that made sense.

Thank you for clarifying !

So a 221g "may" or "may not" involve a send-back to the service center, but the 212g is a flat-out denial and guarantees a send-back to the service center. So, if the USCIS upholds the Consulate's decision to deny, then does USCIS issue a 212g ?

I know what you are saying. but, sheila was issued 212. DENIED. because, she was found her marriage was

FRAUD. thats why I mentioned 212.

[morocco4ever 63]

This really does seem like a 221g, which is not a denial "per se," but a notice that more information or investigation or processing is required before they can approve your visa.

As Shonnie mentioned here, a 212g is the consulate's official notice of intent to deny, and which informs you that your case is being sent back to USCIS for either re-affirmation or confirmation of denial. And it seems unlikely that the consulate would initiate a "home visit" to investigate further if they had already made the decision to issue a 212g.

Also, I can't remember a case where the actual document of 221g or 212g was not issued at the conclusion of the interview, but then again we haven't seen a whole lot of the cases going through Tunisia -- it's possible that it works differently than the "norm" everyone would expect.

But good advice from Shonnie here -- call or email the consulate, as well as your congress representative, and see what you can find out. You deserve to know !

By the way, what was the date of your interview ? I want to keep the Cheerleading thread updated, as this info is very useful to other members in understanding how each particular consulate operates.

Wishing you the very best in getting answers, and ending with success in your visa journey ! Please keep us "in the loop."

-MK

Those facts are a little off. Those of us that have had our petitions sent back to the CIS were issued a 221g, not a 212g. The difference means that in every sense of the word our cases are approvable, but they believe they have evidence that the CIS didn't have when they approved our petition. They have no authority to revoke the petition, so they have to send it back to the CIS to do it. I hope that made sense.

Thank you for clarifying !

So a 221g "may" or "may not" involve a send-back to the service center, but the 212g is a flat-out denial and guarantees a send-back to the service center. So, if the USCIS upholds the Consulate's decision to deny, then does USCIS issue a 212g ?

I know what you are saying. but, sheila was issued 212. DENIED. because, she was found her marriage was

FRAUD. thats why I mentioned 212.

She was issued the 212 and then sent back to the CIS? I wonder if that was for the purpose of pursuing fraud charges or something else. All I know is that the consulate can deny giving the visa but they have no rights to revoke the petition. What is Sheila's story anyway? Can you share, or is this something personal to her?

[babybunny 2]

well basicly. she was denied because, of manipulation of her marriage papers and misrepresentation.

which I suspect has an element of truth because, she is now persuing divorce and have already moved on.

[morocco4ever 63]

well basicly. she was denied because, of manipulation of her marriage papers and misrepresentation.

which I suspect has an element of truth because, she is now persuing divorce and have already moved on.

Awww...this makes sense. They had strong enough evidence to give them the 212. Man that sucks. Those of us that have recieved the 221g and sent back to CIS have no proof whatsoever, they just don't believe us, that is why they didn't give us the 212.

[Donna A 4]

my husband was on review for only a week. they said something like they were waiting for something from the usa or something like that.