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Not really, as long as one assumes that all conservatives oppose equal rights for homosexuals. If you're one of those rare C's that doesn't, then I have to ask... are you sure you're a C?

There is a broad spectrum of issues, so I have a broad spectrum of attitudes. I tend to be more libertarian for most lifestyle issues. In more pratical matters, I tend to be more conservative. And even between those two topic areas, there is some crosshatching. If I can find a pragmatic solution to a problem, I will go for that. K.I.S.S.

Gay marriage rights is shaping up to be the conservative litmus test that abortion rights once were.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Not really, as long as one assumes that all conservatives oppose equal rights for homosexuals. If you're one of those rare C's that doesn't, then I have to ask... are you sure you're a C?

There is a broad spectrum of issues, so I have a broad spectrum of attitudes. I tend to be more libertarian for most lifestyle issues. In more pratical matters, I tend to be more conservative. And even between those two topic areas, there is some crosshatching. If I can find a pragmatic solution to a problem, I will go for that. K.I.S.S.

Gay marriage rights is shaping up to be the conservative litmus test that abortion rights once were.

It depends who is grabbing the mic at the time. I don't like hanging out with the suits, and the self-declared victims bore me. Most people just get on with their lives. I will identify with those folks.

Edited April 14, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[HannahP 119]

Not really, as long as one assumes that all conservatives oppose equal rights for homosexuals. If you're one of those rare C's that doesn't, then I have to ask... are you sure you're a C?

There is a broad spectrum of issues, so I have a broad spectrum of attitudes. I tend to be more libertarian for most lifestyle issues. In more pratical matters, I tend to be more conservative. And even between those two topic areas, there is some crosshatching. If I can find a pragmatic solution to a problem, I will go for that. K.I.S.S.

Gay marriage rights is shaping up to be the conservative litmus test that abortion rights once were.

STILL are, don't brush it off. At least in the midwest and south, laws have been slowly cutting off abortion rights for years, if the favor of fetal rights.

Wondered why so many equated homosexual rights with slavery. It's so much more equal to segregation. Does anyone remember how the majority of people fought against integration of schools? Interractial busing? Interractial marriages?

[Danno 1,228]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

[HannahP 119]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

Have you provided proof that many homosexual relationships end up in abuse?

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

[Ban Hammer 14,571]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

Have you provided proof that many homosexual relationships end up in abuse?

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

well there was that gal chasing her wife around with a turkey baster of brotherly love........

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184991

[HannahP 119]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

Have you provided proof that many homosexual relationships end up in abuse?

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

well there was that gal chasing her wife around with a turkey baster of brotherly love........

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184991

epic porn?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

Have you provided proof that many homosexual relationships end up in abuse?

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

well there was that gal chasing her wife around with a turkey baster of brotherly love........

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184991

epic porn?

Sometimes life is stranger than fiction!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

It's fairly obvious. The majority here believe they are right, no matter what the circumstance is or how much information is presented. In addition, the stance many take will consistently shift if doing so helps their own argument. If someone disagrees (for any reason), then they must be ridiculed and beaten down. After all... an opinion that differs from your own can't have any merit, right?

High school students are more mature than people in this place.

Absolutely right! I like this guy!

[Danno 1,228]

I happen to agree with most people in the country and certainly the VAST MAJORITY around the world in that Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and unhealthy.

Does your view apply only to humans or is it extended to animals which practice homosexuality as well?

Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species.

Fact: about 8-10 percent of around 300 animal species practice homosexuality

PLease provide some proof, that 8-10% practice homosexuality.

Silly sh_t like neck rubbing doesn't count.

Have you provided proof that many homosexual relationships end up in abuse?

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718

I was hoping for a little more than "proof" than loose claims by "Petter Boeckman, who is the academic advisor for the "Against Nature's Order?" exhibition.

This is about like me posting ramblings done by Jerry Falwell as proof of something.

The only thing we read there is unfounded claims, I didn't see one link to his research material.

In fact he even writes....

<<The problem is that researchers have not seen for themselves that the phenomenon exists or they have been confused when observing homosexual behaviour or that they are fearful of being ridiculed by their colleagues. Many therefore overlook the abundance of material that is found. Many researchers have described homosexuality as something altogether different from sex. They must realise that animals can have sex with who they will, when they will and without consideration to a researcher's ethical principles.">>

Now we have all seen the monkeys playing with themselves in the animal park and certainly there are a few aberrations amongst the millions of species but to claim 10% of animal species are homosexual seems laughable.

Now Madame Cleo did one time "reference" one species of Bison ( I think it was ) that had reports of ####### sex. That my friends is what I call genuine **-sex. These flimsy claims that ducks sitting together on a nest is evidence is pretty lame and smacks of desperation especially as these animals have been studied for years and it's only recently "observers" are making these claims.... even insulting earlier researchers, claiming they were "afraid to report these findings."

The threshold for what passes for science, seems to be lower and lower with the important field of "science" starting to pay the price as confidence dwindles.

Now I have raised and handled domesticated Animals my whole life, I have never owned, seen, or even heard of a "gay" horse dog cat, goat, cow, rooster etc.

Now we all have animals in our lives Has anyone ever seen two male dogs mate?

Any such case is I suppose possible but highly unusual and certainly not proof that animals are routinely gay.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

It's fairly obvious. The majority here believe they are right, no matter what the circumstance is or how much information is presented. In addition, the stance many take will consistently shift if doing so helps their own argument. If someone disagrees (for any reason), then they must be ridiculed and beaten down. After all... an opinion that differs from your own can't have any merit, right?

High school students are more mature than people in this place.

"fairly obvious"? puh-leaze.

My opinions are just that, opinions. I don't think I have "truth" tied to my undies. Whether people like my opinions or not is really none of my business. I find NO MERIT in hate - none whatsoever.

If your opinion is valid, then so is Danno's or anyone else's opinion.

If your assumption here is that all opinions are equal. Well... that isn't true.

Hence the self-righteous hypocrisy rears its ugly head.

Of course all opinions are equal. As Len demonstrated, however, some opinions are meaningless to others. Such closed mindedness does not surprise me.

Where the blip did I say that? Listen kid, I choose not to give credence to opinions based on hate. Don't like it? Too damn bad. Your stupidity and arrogance do not surprise me, either.

Stupidity and arrogance based upon disagreement? So then giving no credence to what you may believe is hate thereby implies you are stupid and arrogant. You won't agree, of course, but simply because you believe something and/or disagree with someone's stance, no matter what it is, does not make you right or the other person a hate monger.

Sometimes this board amazes me..

"Stupidity" and "arrogance" are popular insults posted by the insecure among us, easy earned. You see that tossed about alot for no reason other than you simply don't agree and won't back down to appease the other side.

I'm enjoying this SOOO much . Mostly because I'm not the only one saying it.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

PP I think he's parsing a bit here. Not saying he agrees with an opinion but just saying it's 'equal', whatever that means.

Everyone has free speech - that doesn't automatically make what someone says correct, legitimate or equal.

That goes for you, too.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

PP I think he's parsing a bit here. Not saying he agrees with an opinion but just saying it's 'equal', whatever that means.

Everyone has free speech - that doesn't automatically make what someone says correct, legitimate or equal.

That goes for you, too.

You need some better bait than that.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

tolerance???

Half of you dont tolerate conservative peoples beliefs without insulting or criticizing... why would you expect a conservative to tolerate something they themselves dont believe in?

True, but they can't see that.

Conservatives are to gay people what the Klan once was to black people.

The Klan then was just as deserving of 'tolerance' as conservatives are today.

Tolerance is a stupid word to use in this context. It means I can put up with you, not that I like you, accept you or respect you. BTW, Democrats opposed integration for far longer than Republicans. Al Gore's father voted against the civil rights act. Know the history of the civil rights movement before making coments like that. I lived thru it.

PP I think he's parsing a bit here. Not saying he agrees with an opinion but just saying it's 'equal', whatever that means.

Everyone has free speech - that doesn't automatically make what someone says correct, legitimate or equal.

That goes for you, too.

You need some better bait than that.

Since you see posts addressed to you as bait, even if they are only statements of fact (as is that one), then, yes, I would.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

tolerance???

Half of you dont tolerate conservative peoples beliefs without insulting or criticizing... why would you expect a conservative to tolerate something they themselves dont believe in?

True, but they can't see that.

Conservatives are to gay people what the Klan once was to black people.

The Klan then was just as deserving of 'tolerance' as conservatives are today.

Tolerance is a stupid word to use in this context. It means I can put up with you, not that I like you, accept you or respect you. BTW, Democrats opposed integration for far longer than Republicans. Al Gore's father voted against the civil rights act. Know the history of the civil rights movement before making coments like that. I lived thru it.

PP I think he's parsing a bit here. Not saying he agrees with an opinion but just saying it's 'equal', whatever that means.

Everyone has free speech - that doesn't automatically make what someone says correct, legitimate or equal.

That goes for you, too.

You need some better bait than that.

Since you see posts addressed to you as bait, even if they are only statements of fact (as is that one), then, yes, I would.

See - there you go again.