My fiancee got Pink today

[Hiep & Thao 0]

Hope the info below help fellow Vietnam filers:

7AM in VN, my fiancee was already waiting with hundreds of people standing on the sidewalk

The consulate opened before 8AM, my fiancee and others turned in paperwork, wait for hours and talk among themselves, while other people get interviewed right in front of her, I'll list a few bad stories below...

9:30AM (7:30PM here in CA) I decided to skip dinner, stop by my church and prayed until I hear anything from her.

11:30AM (9:30PM in CA) she called, my prayers were answered!

The Consulate Officer didn't give her any trouble, and the Vietnamese workers there didn't treat her that bad. I guess u just have to appear like u deserve some respect. Also, she probably had her paperwork together well.

Interview took 5 minutes, nothing about me:

- What's jor job? Answer: Marketing, event execution

- What exactly do you do? Answer: blah blah lbah

- Any things else do you do in your job? Answer: blah blah blah

- Can u speak english? Answer: A little but she prefers Vietnamese

- How did you meet? Answer: Website chatroom

- How did you find a friend? She answered that you can pick any nickname in the forum, but that did not satisfy the Officer, after a few tries, she finnally understood the question was that how did she get to chat in that website. She said just go to the website, login, join a chatroom and start chatting.

- How many times your fiancee met? Answer: 7 times

- What situation when you met your fiancee parents? Was it during your wedding (careful here)? Engagement party? Answer: No wedding, no engagement party (no problem), she met my parents when they came back to VN back then.

- Congrats, wish you happiness and success! Visa will be available Mar 27

- Officer did carefully looked at my 1040 tax return and W-2 to find my income (I got pretty decent income for the last few years)

- Officer glanced thru the photos that she brought, didn't touch the timeline, phone records, emails, letters, receipts of sending money, diamond ring, credit card statements proving purchase of airline tickets etc...

- It seemed like the decision has already been made before the interview.

- My package submit to USCIS includes (all color copies):

* First emails showing dates

* A dozen photos from 2000 to 2007 (I went back Oct 2008 after submitting I-129F)

* Some personal letters, greeting cards

* Some remittance receipts, package mailing receipts

* Some airplane tickets

* Copies of passport pages

* Hotel receipts in Singapore trip

* Food and drink receipts in Vietnam for every visit (paid by credit cards w/ my signatures & date)

* Yahoo PC-to-phone calls for 6 months before sending in I-129F

* Rent checks for the room I rent

- My I-134 includes:

* 2008 completed tax form + w-2, prev 4 years tax transcripts (Officer looked at this very carefully)

* Employment verification letter from my work

* 12 month statements from my 2 saving accounts

- My fiancee hired a service to help her with organizing paperwork, they did help alot, however I really made sure she can identify which is which, since things should be chaotic in there, there's no time to read anything. A lot of people in there didn't understand what paper work they're bringing in.

Some things she witnessed in front of her that morning:

- Quite a few people got pinks, but not that many

- Some Husband/wife of 4 5 years w/ children get rejected also ===> marriage & babies are no guarantee

- Consulate officer asked one woman w/ kids: How do you prove this baby is his son/daughter?

- Cases w/ big age difference, low income, or 2 meetings or less, get rejected almost certainly

- Huge amounts of evidence (suit cases full of docs) appear to be of little value, people reeling in tons of papers all got white slip

- Long interrogations all got whites and blues, quick interviews meant pink

- If the officers didn't like the case, they seemed to try to fail the interviews by asking questions like what time does he go to sleep, what location does he call you from, birthday of his parents etc...

[sara..... 371]

congratulations :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Mr. Leggs 0]

congrats and thanks for sharing!!

[Kevin and 10]

Congratulations! This is great news.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Congrats and good luck on the rest of journey.

[caochi 0]

Conratulations !!! Chuc mung

[Anh map 2,098]

Wonderful news. Congrats to the both of you.

[r0yalflush 0]

Hope the info below help fellow Vietnam filers:

7AM in VN, my fiancee was already waiting with hundreds of people standing on the sidewalk

The consulate opened before 8AM, my fiancee and others turned in paperwork, wait for hours and talk among themselves, while other people get interviewed right in front of her, I'll list a few bad stories below...

9:30AM (7:30PM here in CA) I decided to skip dinner, stop by my church and prayed until I hear anything from her.

11:30AM (9:30PM in CA) she called, my prayers were answered!

The Consulate Officer didn't give her any trouble, and the Vietnamese workers there didn't treat her that bad. I guess u just have to appear like u deserve some respect. Also, she probably had her paperwork together well.

Interview took 5 minutes, nothing about me:

- What's jor job? Answer: Marketing, event execution

- What exactly do you do? Answer: blah blah lbah

- Any things else do you do in your job? Answer: blah blah blah

- Can u speak english? Answer: A little but she prefers Vietnamese

- How did you meet? Answer: Website chatroom

- How did you find a friend? She answered that you can pick any nickname in the forum, but that did not satisfy the Officer, after a few tries, she finnally understood the question was that how did she get to chat in that website. She said just go to the website, login, join a chatroom and start chatting.

- How many times your fiancee met? Answer: 7 times

- What situation when you met your fiancee parents? Was it during your wedding (careful here)? Engagement party? Answer: No wedding, no engagement party (no problem), she met my parents when they came back to VN back then.

- Congrats, wish you happiness and success! Visa will be available Mar 27

- Officer did carefully looked at my 1040 tax return and W-2 to find my income (I got pretty decent income for the last few years)

- Officer glanced thru the photos that she brought, didn't touch the timeline, phone records, emails, letters, receipts of sending money, diamond ring, credit card statements proving purchase of airline tickets etc...

- It seemed like the decision has already been made before the interview.

- My package submit to USCIS includes (all color copies):

* First emails showing dates

* A dozen photos from 2000 to 2007 (I went back Oct 2008 after submitting I-129F)

* Some personal letters, greeting cards

* Some remittance receipts, package mailing receipts

* Some airplane tickets

* Copies of passport pages

* Hotel receipts in Singapore trip

* Food and drink receipts in Vietnam for every visit (paid by credit cards w/ my signatures & date)

* Yahoo PC-to-phone calls for 6 months before sending in I-129F

* Rent checks for the room I rent

- My I-134 includes:

* 2008 completed tax form + w-2, prev 4 years tax transcripts (Officer looked at this very carefully)

* Employment verification letter from my work

* 12 month statements from my 2 saving accounts

- My fiancee hired a service to help her with organizing paperwork, they did help alot, however I really made sure she can identify which is which, since things should be chaotic in there, there's no time to read anything. A lot of people in there didn't understand what paper work they're bringing in.

Some things she witnessed in front of her that morning:

- Quite a few people got pinks, but not that many

- Some Husband/wife of 4 5 years w/ children get rejected also ===> marriage & babies are no guarantee

- Consulate officer asked one woman w/ kids: How do you prove this baby is his son/daughter?

- Cases w/ big age difference, low income, or 2 meetings or less, get rejected almost certainly

- Huge amounts of evidence (suit cases full of docs) appear to be of little value, people reeling in tons of papers all got white slip

- Long interrogations all got whites and blues, quick interviews meant pink

- If the officers didn't like the case, they seemed to try to fail the interviews by asking questions like what time does he go to sleep, what location does he call you from, birthday of his parents etc...

How did you get the 1040? i only got the 2008 w2s in the mail. You also didn't mention your paystubs, you didn't include this along with your I-134?

[Dai. 7]

it's a copy of your 1040, the paper you submit to file taxes, that's what I turned in.

[Hiep & Thao 0]

How did you get the 1040? i only got the 2008 w2s in the mail. You also didn't mention your paystubs, you didn't include this along with your I-134?

You don't have to have submitted the tax form already, just fill it out either using tax software or go to tax services. Employment verification (with salary info) was good enough for me

[LilLoveBug 0]

Sorry, I am a little confused. I have a copy of my 2008 tax return, plus w-2's, bank statements and employer letter... should that be suficient? I don't think tax transcripts are available for 2008 yet, am I wrong? I have a full copy of 2008 tax return as submitted to the IRS (plus can prove payment of taxes if you think that is a good idea...???) Thanks guys!

p.s. since I have paid taxes already, could I get the transcript for 2008 yet????

Bug

[Hiep & Thao 0]

Sorry, I am a little confused. I have a copy of my 2008 tax return, plus w-2's, bank statements and employer letter... should that be suficient? I don't think tax transcripts are available for 2008 yet, am I wrong? I have a full copy of 2008 tax return as submitted to the IRS (plus can prove payment of taxes if you think that is a good idea...???) Thanks guys!

p.s. since I have paid taxes already, could I get the transcript for 2008 yet????

Bug

You can always try calling the IRS, they have automated request on the phone. I didn't have to talk to anybody, just punch in some numbers and they sent me 4 years worth of taxes. When dealing with HCM Consulate, my advice is don't assume that 'minimum' means 'sufficient', think 'maximum' is still not good enough. Show your whole life to them. They know anyway!

Btw, my fiancee brought very little evidence, just like a thick folder. DO NOT show many photos for each event, they look the same and will probably cause the CO to think you guys are faking it too much. They don't have time to look at each photo, what they do is looking at the first few photo carefully, and then start flipping fast, so make sure each flip shows a clearly different photo, with clear date+location in the bottom (use tape + post-it to write location/date)

[LilLoveBug 0]

Sorry, I am a little confused. I have a copy of my 2008 tax return, plus w-2's, bank statements and employer letter... should that be suficient? I don't think tax transcripts are available for 2008 yet, am I wrong? I have a full copy of 2008 tax return as submitted to the IRS (plus can prove payment of taxes if you think that is a good idea...???) Thanks guys!

p.s. since I have paid taxes already, could I get the transcript for 2008 yet????

Bug

You can always try calling the IRS, they have automated request on the phone. I didn't have to talk to anybody, just punch in some numbers and they sent me 4 years worth of taxes. When dealing with HCM Consulate, my advice is don't assume that 'minimum' means 'sufficient', think 'maximum' is still not good enough. Show your whole life to them. They know anyway!

Btw, my fiancee brought very little evidence, just like a thick folder. DO NOT show many photos for each event, they look the same and will probably cause the CO to think you guys are faking it too much. They don't have time to look at each photo, what they do is looking at the first few photo carefully, and then start flipping fast, so make sure each flip shows a clearly different photo, with clear date+location in the bottom (use tape + post-it to write location/date)

Can photos be pasted to a piece of paper and that paper stating the date/location? Or do all photos need to be loose? If loose, how can they be sorted or organized by date? I don't really understand this whole process.

Bug

[Anh map 2,098]

Sorry, I am a little confused. I have a copy of my 2008 tax return, plus w-2's, bank statements and employer letter... should that be suficient? I don't think tax transcripts are available for 2008 yet, am I wrong? I have a full copy of 2008 tax return as submitted to the IRS (plus can prove payment of taxes if you think that is a good idea...???) Thanks guys!

p.s. since I have paid taxes already, could I get the transcript for 2008 yet????

Bug

You can always try calling the IRS, they have automated request on the phone. I didn't have to talk to anybody, just punch in some numbers and they sent me 4 years worth of taxes. When dealing with HCM Consulate, my advice is don't assume that 'minimum' means 'sufficient', think 'maximum' is still not good enough. Show your whole life to them. They know anyway!

Btw, my fiancee brought very little evidence, just like a thick folder. DO NOT show many photos for each event, they look the same and will probably cause the CO to think you guys are faking it too much. They don't have time to look at each photo, what they do is looking at the first few photo carefully, and then start flipping fast, so make sure each flip shows a clearly different photo, with clear date+location in the bottom (use tape + post-it to write location/date)

Can photos be pasted to a piece of paper and that paper stating the date/location? Or do all photos need to be loose? If loose, how can they be sorted or organized by date? I don't really understand this whole process.

Bug

Bug, make photocopies of the pictures ( 2 - 4 per page) and put the description below the picture. Include the photos with description on the back in a baggie in case they want to look at the actual prints.