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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Singapore
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Hi,

I'm from Singapore and my husband is the USC.

We are just doing some initial research into going to live in Singapore a few years, just so we have some extended time with my family. We would intend to vome back to the US after those few years.

If I'm not intending on applying for Citizenship yet, are there any serious implications for going for 2-3 yrs? I understand that I'd have to apply for a re-entry permit, would that be it?

Thanks

...yeng

K1 Visa : Singapore (yeng) /Oregon (charlie)

Nov 12, '03: NOA 1 online

Mar 29, '04: RFE mailed out (139 days)

Apr 01, '04: RFE received in the mail (sent in wrong birth cert!)

Apr 09, '04: Mailed back RFE (Go USPS!!!)

Apr 15, '04: RFE received by USCIS (online)

Apr 28, '04: NOA2!!!! (Charlie received hard copy, online status still not changed) (168 days)

May 10, '04: Letter received from NVC

May 21, '04: Packet received in Singapore from SG Embassy. (191 from NOA1. online status still at reciept of RFE!)

Jun 18, '04: mailed off DS-230 (singapore procedure)

Jun 23, '04: received interview date letter from embassy

Jul 09, '04: Interview - SUCCESS!!

Jul 14, '04: Pick up passport with K1 Visa

Aug 12, '04: Arrive at LAX and clear immigration with ease.

Sep 04, '04: WEDDING!!!!

AOS (Portland, OR)

Oct 28, '04: mailed off AOS, EAD & AP to Portland by Priority Mail

Nov 20, '04: received AP and EAD appt letter for Dec 9.

Dec 09, '04: received EAD at appt (but the fingerprinting done was NOT the biometrics!)

Jan 11, '05: initial AOS interview date but we need to reschedule.

Dec 20, '04: (circa) received letter requesting the $70 for fingerprinting to be done)

Jan 6. '05: received appointment date for fingerprinting on Jan 25. (found out only on the 25th that they WERE going to interview us on the 26th but they didn't send letter out because the officer was going to be away)

Mar 16, '05: AOS interview - FINALLY!

Apr 27, '05: Received temp card (I-551)

May still receiving welcome NOAs (5 so far)

"...testing of your faith produces endurance; and let endurance have its full effect, so that you may be mature and complete, lacking in nothing" ... the Apostle, James

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Hi,

I'm from Singapore and my husband is the USC.

We are just doing some initial research into going to live in Singapore a few years, just so we have some extended time with my family. We would intend to vome back to the US after those few years.

If I'm not intending on applying for Citizenship yet, are there any serious implications for going for 2-3 yrs? I understand that I'd have to apply for a re-entry permit, would that be it?

Thanks

...yeng

Yes... you could lose your Permanent Resident Status. A re-entry permit does noit help you if you have abandoned your residency. If you pull up stakes and go to another country, there is a real risk of the CBP or USCIS determining that you have abandoned your status.

A better suggestion is for you to wait until you naturalize, then go over to SIngapore for a few years. Once your a citizen, you're always a citizen...

Knowledge itself is power - Sir Francis Bacon

I have gone fishing... you can find me by going here http://**removed due to TOS**

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Hi,

I'm from Singapore and my husband is the USC.

We are just doing some initial research into going to live in Singapore a few years, just so we have some extended time with my family. We would intend to vome back to the US after those few years.

If I'm not intending on applying for Citizenship yet, are there any serious implications for going for 2-3 yrs? I understand that I'd have to apply for a re-entry permit, would that be it?

Thanks

...yeng

Yeng -- I have a bit of a different viewpoint on this, which is that I do not believe we should let immigration dictate our lives.

There are things you can do to maintain your residency even while living abroad for 2-3 years, although of course nothing is guaranteed. Along with the re-entry permit, you should maintain your bank accounts, credit cards etc in the US. Maintain an address of some sort, even if with a friend or relative. Keep your property if you own any. Continue to file your taxes as a "resident". Come back to the US for visits. If possible to be "transferred" to Singapore with your or your husband's job, that would be fantastic. Just some examples, I suggest you pay for a consult with an immigration lawyer for more tips if you really decide to do this.

Hopefully by doing XYZ you will preserve your residency. However, even if the worst happens and you lose your GC -- that's not the end of the world. You'll just apply for an immigrant visa based on your marriage. That can be done from abroad, you won't have to be separated. It just takes a few months of planning, that's all.

"When all else fails, read the instructions."

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Singapore
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Hi,

I'm from Singapore and my husband is the USC.

We are just doing some initial research into going to live in Singapore a few years, just so we have some extended time with my family. We would intend to vome back to the US after those few years.

If I'm not intending on applying for Citizenship yet, are there any serious implications for going for 2-3 yrs? I understand that I'd have to apply for a re-entry permit, would that be it?

Thanks

...yeng

Yeng -- I have a bit of a different viewpoint on this, which is that I do not believe we should let immigration dictate our lives.

There are things you can do to maintain your residency even while living abroad for 2-3 years, although of course nothing is guaranteed. Along with the re-entry permit, you should maintain your bank accounts, credit cards etc in the US. Maintain an address of some sort, even if with a friend or relative. Keep your property if you own any. Continue to file your taxes as a "resident". Come back to the US for visits. If possible to be "transferred" to Singapore with your or your husband's job, that would be fantastic. Just some examples, I suggest you pay for a consult with an immigration lawyer for more tips if you really decide to do this.

Hopefully by doing XYZ you will preserve your residency. However, even if the worst happens and you lose your GC -- that's not the end of the world. You'll just apply for an immigrant visa based on your marriage. That can be done from abroad, you won't have to be separated. It just takes a few months of planning, that's all.

Thanks for your replies. I wonder if the country you come from makes a difference in how immigration assesses the situation. It would be nice to think that immigration would honor a genuine marriage relationship between the 2 people and appreciate the couple wanting to experience the non-USC's home country for a spell. I would be interested to hear from others who have done this.

K1 Visa : Singapore (yeng) /Oregon (charlie)

Nov 12, '03: NOA 1 online

Mar 29, '04: RFE mailed out (139 days)

Apr 01, '04: RFE received in the mail (sent in wrong birth cert!)

Apr 09, '04: Mailed back RFE (Go USPS!!!)

Apr 15, '04: RFE received by USCIS (online)

Apr 28, '04: NOA2!!!! (Charlie received hard copy, online status still not changed) (168 days)

May 10, '04: Letter received from NVC

May 21, '04: Packet received in Singapore from SG Embassy. (191 from NOA1. online status still at reciept of RFE!)

Jun 18, '04: mailed off DS-230 (singapore procedure)

Jun 23, '04: received interview date letter from embassy

Jul 09, '04: Interview - SUCCESS!!

Jul 14, '04: Pick up passport with K1 Visa

Aug 12, '04: Arrive at LAX and clear immigration with ease.

Sep 04, '04: WEDDING!!!!

AOS (Portland, OR)

Oct 28, '04: mailed off AOS, EAD & AP to Portland by Priority Mail

Nov 20, '04: received AP and EAD appt letter for Dec 9.

Dec 09, '04: received EAD at appt (but the fingerprinting done was NOT the biometrics!)

Jan 11, '05: initial AOS interview date but we need to reschedule.

Dec 20, '04: (circa) received letter requesting the $70 for fingerprinting to be done)

Jan 6. '05: received appointment date for fingerprinting on Jan 25. (found out only on the 25th that they WERE going to interview us on the 26th but they didn't send letter out because the officer was going to be away)

Mar 16, '05: AOS interview - FINALLY!

Apr 27, '05: Received temp card (I-551)

May still receiving welcome NOAs (5 so far)

"...testing of your faith produces endurance; and let endurance have its full effect, so that you may be mature and complete, lacking in nothing" ... the Apostle, James

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There is also a Returning Resident's visa for people who wind up out of the US for longer than the validity of the re-entry permit.

I don't think you will find the experiences yo are looking for here at visajourney---the group is not old enough.

You can do some searching of the entire archive of alt.visa.us.marriage-based via google/groups. That group is the original 'fiance visa' group (ca 1997) and has more old timers around now. I'm sure I've seen similar stories there over the years.

PS: I don't think the immigrant's country of origin matters. We opted to wait the few years until natz before taking off. One more month to go! :)

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

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