Phelps still wants to protest Soldiers funerals

[Danno 1,228]

I'd like to know what ACLU's detailed position is on this because does that mean a person's right to free speech could also include yelling out obscenities at a wedding, or high school graduation? Certainly they can see that there is also the right to privacy and that privacy shouldn't be confined to inside someone's home or a enclosed building, but to cemeteries and group gatherings outside.

Probably because the cemetary is considered public property, I'd imagine.

I'm quite sure most of the Places Obama held rallies was also public property, yet security escorted hecklers out???

[Danno 1,228]

If you think that the ACLU is doing this because they support hate speech, then you absolutely do not understand what it is that the ACLU does.

The ACLU takes a completely neutral stand with regards to the content of free speech. They only seek to make sure the Constitution is enforced. .... the ACLU provides a valuable service in protecting our Constitution.

Oh really?

There have been thousands of cases challenging the RIGHTS in 2nd amendment cases.

IN how many of those has the ACLU been involved defending the rights of Gun owners?

Everyone knows the ACLU has a narrow scope of interest.

Edited January 12, 2009 by Danno

[Danno 1,228]

I'd like to know what ACLU's detailed position is on this because does that mean a person's right to free speech could also include yelling out obscenities at a wedding, or high school graduation? Certainly they can see that there is also the right to privacy and that privacy shouldn't be confined to inside someone's home or a enclosed building, but to cemeteries and group gatherings outside.

i wonder if the aclu will be so quick to help defend a relative of the deceased for expressing him or herself by punching a westboro church member at a funeral.

I have had many run ins with these low lifes.

They carry signs at funnerals saying "Thank God for IEDs" "God Hates America" "Thank God for Dead Soldiers"

They scream obsenities at the families.

I have been between them and the families at many funerals.

Thes low lifes make a living by provoking people at funnerals and then suing them.

They are scum.

They know me on site and always the nicest things to say to me.

There is now a group called the Pstriot Riders and one called Combat Vets which go to funnerals to keep these scum away from the families.

They represent the absolute worst of free speech.

Go to "www.godhatesamerica.com" for more information

I thought it was...www.Godhatesfags.com?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

I guess then ACLU should have no problems then if I (or others) decide to go to same location as Phelpsian-chops' protests and do some counter-protest noise amplified with 6,000-W speaker system--and do so without getting an officious permit.

Edited January 12, 2009 by CherryXS

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'd like to know what ACLU's detailed position is on this because does that mean a person's right to free speech could also include yelling out obscenities at a wedding, or high school graduation? Certainly they can see that there is also the right to privacy and that privacy shouldn't be confined to inside someone's home or a enclosed building, but to cemeteries and group gatherings outside.

Probably because the cemetary is considered public property, I'd imagine.

I'm quite sure most of the Places Obama held rallies was also public property, yet security escorted hecklers out???

What's your point? Obviously there isn't a consistent standard - because all of these things (as Alien noted previously) are subject to local by-laws and interpretations by law enforcement officials about what people are doing. Hence the same laws that determine what constitutes lawful protest are at odds with laws that designate a "riot".

[Craneman 2]

I guess then ACLU should have no problems then if I (or others) decide to go to same location as Phelpsian-chops' protests and do some counter-protest noise amplified with 6,000-W speaker system--and do so without getting an officious permit.

You should go to one.

Phelps publishes where they will be on their web site.

The 6000 watt noise comes from the motorcyles drowing out the trash spewed by the Phelps crowd.

And yes the families do like the sound of the bikes over the sound of the Phelps vermon.

[Reba 2]

I say we all set up a protest at Phelp's funeral. He can't live forever. Unless he's made a deal with the devil

He and his group make me sick to my stomach, they really do.

[Amby 490]

PS: From the title I thought Michael Phelps was going around protesting soldier's funerals. duh.

ok I seriously thought that too but wasn't going to admit it until I saw you thought it too

[tmma 467]

PS: From the title I thought Michael Phelps was going around protesting soldier's funerals. duh.

ok I seriously thought that too but wasn't going to admit it until I saw you thought it too

LMAO---ME TOO!!!! Didn't want to say anything though-but I glanced at the title and at first thought was whoa-he changed his mind big time! But, no--him and his cronies are still moronic whackjobs with nothing better to do than sully a fallen soldier's funeral. They really are scum.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

PS: From the title I thought Michael Phelps was going around protesting soldier's funerals. duh.

ok I seriously thought that too but wasn't going to admit it until I saw you thought it too

LMAO---ME TOO!!!! Didn't want to say anything though-but I glanced at the title and at first thought was whoa-he changed his mind big time! But, no--him and his cronies are still moronic whackjobs with nothing better to do than sully a fallen soldier's funeral. They really are scum.

WAIT. Is there more than one Phelps??????????

[tmma 467]

PS: From the title I thought Michael Phelps was going around protesting soldier's funerals. duh.

ok I seriously thought that too but wasn't going to admit it until I saw you thought it too

LMAO---ME TOO!!!! Didn't want to say anything though-but I glanced at the title and at first thought was whoa-he changed his mind big time! But, no--him and his cronies are still moronic whackjobs with nothing better to do than sully a fallen soldier's funeral. They really are scum.

WAIT. Is there more than one Phelps??????????

It's been a long day-and I'm not making much sense ....I meant "they" as in Phelps and his band of whackjobs.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

PS: From the title I thought Michael Phelps was going around protesting soldier's funerals. duh.

ok I seriously thought that too but wasn't going to admit it until I saw you thought it too

LMAO---ME TOO!!!! Didn't want to say anything though-but I glanced at the title and at first thought was whoa-he changed his mind big time! But, no--him and his cronies are still moronic whackjobs with nothing better to do than sully a fallen soldier's funeral. They really are scum.

WAIT. Is there more than one Phelps??????????

It's been a long day-and I'm not making much sense ....I meant "they" as in Phelps and his band of whackjobs.

I know

[Jasman0717 9]

What's with these people

[alienlovechild 75]

The irony would be to protest at Phelp's own funeral holding a sign. "His death is a sign God didn't like him much (on the flipside) Phelps was gay."

[Danno 1,228]

What's with these people

I admit I have not read into the concepts which Phelps bases his actions on but I suspect they are very traditional in base but unconventional in practice.

This country was Clearly founded under a Christian concept and as time passes we move farther and farther from these principles.

We have all read references in the Bible which speak of God "turning away" or cutting off a nation or people who reject him.

I would suppose Phelps, believes any sorrow (death of soldiers natural events etc) are evidence of God abandoning The USA as it embraces sin in its law and life.

It's interesting how just a very few people can gain so much attention by merely doing outlandish things.

We see this in this case as well as "artists" who have little talent beyond shock, and others who shtick is working the race angle.

This is the result of "visual" media. Visual media thrives not so much on meaningful stories but on captivating photos or video.