Zarqawi Killed In Air Raid

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But, since we're all from "here" all we're going to pay attention to is what they're saying on TV right now that takes the focus away from other hot-button issues. "We killed the #1 terrorist in Iraq.... but we're also going to pass legislation to make English the official language of the US, ban flag burning and gay marriage, and keep gas prices at $3/gallon..... BUT WE KILLED AL-ZARQAWI!!!! We got justice!"

I agree just another distraction from the big picture

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"One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."

I have to ask... why is beheading someone or setting off a carbomb a terrorist action, but dropping laser guided bombs from jets on them while they sleep not?

Bad analogy.

A person being killed by a car bomb is usually just some passerby and innocent victim, very often a woman or child . Same with the unfortunate people who were savagely beheaded. (they were truck drivers, ....news reporters etc...such as Daniel Pearl.....and had absolutely nothing to do with what Zarqawi and the others were fighting against).

You`re going to compare a person like Zarqawi and equate him to an innocent victim like the others?

He was a militant and very much involved with the insurgency in Iraq. He also supposedly was the one who personally beheaded Nick Berg and others.

To equate someone like him to some innocent victim being blown up by a car bomb is nonsense.

Not to mention the fact that it`s a heckuva lot more humane to kill someone the way Zarqawi died..(####### probably didn`t even feel a thing).......than to slowly cut away at someone`s neck for several agonizing minutes while he is screaming in pain......all while he is methodically beheaded on film.

[arwensun1965 1]

One down too many to go....getting one man for the crimes he has done is ok but there are many many more who will step into this dead mans shoes. This will not stop the fighting that is going on I agree with someone else who said that this might even increase such actions.

[yabasta 0]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

This really doesn`t add up sorry. It is another black op methinks.

Personally i never rejoice in death no matter who it is. No murder can make the world a better place for me even if he was as evil as THEY say. He is probably just another asset of the CIA.

Good point about the bomb by the way. No jury required. Just like the torture camps there is no need for a trial or proof or any of those old fashioned values. It is true here is a picture what more do you want. Time and time again all the people are given are factless stories. A picture of men with rucksacks and suddenly they are terrorists. No proof required in 1984 right? Ministry of information will handle it.

On the topic of "well we have invaded now we might aswell stay and kill some more". That is just like saying well i cut myself tryign to shave with a lawnmower but i didn`t get all my facial hair off so i can`t stop now. We(nimn) invaded Iraq and captured Saddam. We(nimn) installed a president and then were still not welcome. Maybe the time to leave was before we arrived but yes of course we should leave. We should leave and say sorry. Maybe the people left will work things out a lot quicker without gi fuckin joe stamping around pissing on things to mark their territory.

[dalegg 143]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

This really doesn`t add up sorry. It is another black op methinks.

He is probably just another asset of the CIA.

You are awesome

[Ban Hammer 14,279]

and now the conspiracy theories will start.......

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charred terrorist

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Just curious to know how two 500 lb bombs can pinpoint one man and decide who he was and where he was and then kill him, manage to leave his face in one piece and destroy the building he was in. Oh and how do you know he wasn`t surrounded by totally good decent human beings who just happened to be nearby?

That's a good point - they blew up a safe house, but there's no mention

Now check this out on CNN reporting of the story:

Caldwell said Air Force F-16s dropped the bombs on the house, killing al-Zarqawi, 39, and five other people, including a key adviser, Sheik Abd-al-Rahman, and a woman and child

Precision eh?

I'm sure someone can find some way of making these 'accidental' deaths justifiable. Further to that - the question to ask would, how many 'accidental' deaths should be sacrificed for the life of one wanted man?

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Edited June 8, 2006 by Fishdude

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

But, since we're all from "here" all we're going to pay attention to is what they're saying on TV right now that takes the focus away from other hot-button issues. "We killed the #1 terrorist in Iraq.... but we're also going to pass legislation to make English the official language of the US, ban flag burning and gay marriage, and keep gas prices at $3/gallon..... BUT WE KILLED AL-ZARQAWI!!!! We got justice!"

Yeah, because flag burning, gas prices, gay marriage, and english being the official US language are as important as a psychotic murderous terrorist being found and killed.

Which I guess is reason enough to justify the staggeringly arrogant" we are the world" attitudes that give America (and certain of its citizens) a bad reputation abroad.

If you think this country is serious about finding and killing "psychotic murderous terrorist", ask yourself all the people dying in the Sudan, in Somalia and all the other 3rd world $hitholes that are crying out for 'liberation' who don't happen to live somewhere that is economically and strategically important.

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yes... I've always noticed that the U.S. doesnt help solve the lack of democracy in countries where we wont make any useful gains.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

yes... I've always noticed that the U.S. doesnt help solve the lack of democracy in countries where we wont make any useful gains.

But its certainly comforting to pretend otherwise. The rhetoric is rarely reflected in action, no matter who is in charge.

[iceyspots 0]

Strangely the way I realized that was with the genocide in Rwanda between the hutsi's and tutzu's (sp?) or was it the tutsi's and hutus... ok something like that... when all the vacationing white folks were secured and rounded up by the UN forces and the colored folks were left there to fend for themselves. The area had no economic interest to the US or the UN for that matter? So just let them kill eachother off?!

[dalegg 143]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Yeah that's just dirty. The people they drop those bombs on would NEVER consider dropping a bomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent people.

[iceyspots 0]

burn baby burn,,, disco infernoooooooooo

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Israel has shown a willingness to explore the limits of that question - whenever they locate someone they want they drop a bomb on the site, even if that person is standing in the middle of a crowded bazaar.

Yeah that's just dirty. The people they drop those bombs on would NEVER consider dropping a bomb in the middle of a crowd of innocent people.

Yeah everyone brings that into the equation, but thats not really the point.

The fact is the Israeli army is a direct 'official' extension of the Israeli government, and by definition the Israeli people. Compare that to the Palestinian authority which is arguably in charge of its people, and the many militant groups and unaffiliated militant individuals

Putting a government agency in the exact same position as the terrorists is at best, unethical.