Zarqawi Killed In Air Raid

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

An update on the Haditha affair:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/world/mi...ml?pagewanted=1

[Mirorgate 0]

Even if we became isolationists again...

... WE'RE STILL PISSING THEM OFF!!!

look at it like this... America stands for a lot of things they just don't like and can't accept. Seperation of church and state for one. The only thing that I have seen unifying them lately is "Islam v the Great Satan", else they seperate to tribalism or splinter even further. Shiite v Shia is a good example of that. A lot of ppl are jealous of the US for the wealth that we have, and believe a lot of what they see on TV and in the movies, and they want what they don't have... and make stuff up as to why they don't, like we're not sharing anything with anyone.. which is a farce in and of itself. They just don't know the reality because they haven't experienced it first hand, and until that happens, not much is going to get done.

An update on the Haditha affair:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/17/world/mi...ml?pagewanted=1

thanks Fish... readin it over now.

[Ban Hammer 14,275]

Zarqawi's replacement should learn to look up........often

[mawilson 2,133]

Zarqawi's replacement should learn to look up........often

LMAO

[slim 1,533]

Shiite v Shia is a good example of that.

You almost got it right. (Although you basically said Christians v Christianity.)

[ual777 0]

So......

does everyone have their popcorn out and ready to throw at the screen again???

Today in Iraq an insurgent (terrorist) blew up a mosque and killed several Iraqis and two US Marines.

Shouldn't this have been stopped by those two 500 lb. bombs that fell on Al-Zarqawi's safehouse? Or is it becuase there's already a new "Al-Qaeda leader" in Iraq? Or, maybe it's becuase the US just hasn't killed them all yet, but they will?

Or, maybe it's because no matter how many "#1 Terrorists" we kill, WE'RE STILL PISSING THEM OFF!!!

(Oh, and by the way.... Thanks for all the congrats!!! Even though we're on this thread for "off topic" things, the main reason we're all on this site is to get that visa for our loved ones. (And I think it says a lot when people can 100% disagree with me on issues, yet still say "congratulations" when my fiancee's visa is approved.) Thanks everyone!)

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

[*Robert* 2]

So......

does everyone have their popcorn out and ready to throw at the screen again???

Today in Iraq an insurgent (terrorist) blew up a mosque and killed several Iraqis and two US Marines.

Shouldn't this have been stopped by those two 500 lb. bombs that fell on Al-Zarqawi's safehouse? Or is it becuase there's already a new "Al-Qaeda leader" in Iraq? Or, maybe it's becuase the US just hasn't killed them all yet, but they will?

Or, maybe it's because no matter how many "#1 Terrorists" we kill, WE'RE STILL PISSING THEM OFF!!!

(Oh, and by the way.... Thanks for all the congrats!!! Even though we're on this thread for "off topic" things, the main reason we're all on this site is to get that visa for our loved ones. (And I think it says a lot when people can 100% disagree with me on issues, yet still say "congratulations" when my fiancee's visa is approved.) Thanks everyone!)

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

You've got a good point there. Are all the attacks the fault of the US, of course not. Are they ever going to be happy, No. So with very little options left, the root cause needs to be eliminated, by any means possible, with the least amount of harm/damage to innocent people.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

What exactly do you mean by 'appeasement'? I know what the word means, but in a practical sense can you provide a specific example of what you mean by that in this context?

I wouldn't say that the US is responsible for the actions of extremist groups and individuals, but I do think US foreign policy over the last 50 years, and the foreign policy of the European powers the century or two before that has fostered deep resentment in some parts of the world that has led to the situation we face today.

To suggest that general long-held resentments (which aren't limited to the people who resort to violence) can be changed by bombing people back to the stone age (thereby creating more resentment from people who get caught in the crossfire) seems to be missing the point.

The problem with Iraq, being as unpopular (sorry "controversial") a war as it is (world-wide), ignoring the erroneous WMD allegations that initially justified it, is that we chosen to sideline those arguments (now that they are no longer convenient or supported by the facts) in favour of the moral argument that we are doing the world a favour by deposing Saddam.

Perhaps we are - but you have to understand that the initial controversy will never go away. The Iraq war was rooted in dishonesty (not just my opinion but a perception held by a large number of people in the US and around the world) - the government and its supporters decry "unfair! unfair", but that's missing the point that if they (the government) had been more honest at the outset of this thing they would be getting a more 'balanced' hearing. So its really no surprise to me that the 'bad' appears to outweigh the good. You can have as many moral victories as you like, but noone will forget the questionable way in which we were led into this conflict.

[Uxorious 0]

So......

does everyone have their popcorn out and ready to throw at the screen again???

Today in Iraq an insurgent (terrorist) blew up a mosque and killed several Iraqis and two US Marines.

Shouldn't this have been stopped by those two 500 lb. bombs that fell on Al-Zarqawi's safehouse? Or is it becuase there's already a new "Al-Qaeda leader" in Iraq? Or, maybe it's becuase the US just hasn't killed them all yet, but they will?

Or, maybe it's because no matter how many "#1 Terrorists" we kill, WE'RE STILL PISSING THEM OFF!!!

(Oh, and by the way.... Thanks for all the congrats!!! Even though we're on this thread for "off topic" things, the main reason we're all on this site is to get that visa for our loved ones. (And I think it says a lot when people can 100% disagree with me on issues, yet still say "congratulations" when my fiancee's visa is approved.) Thanks everyone!)

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

Time is on our side?

We have already spent over $400 BILLION thus far

2500 troops killed

How much longer do you think we can go on?

We went in on the pretext of made-up WMD threat and waxing patriotic.

How patriotic is it to drive up the deficit and the debt to to the extent where we are totally beholden to China who is now our major lender?

Bush with his unilateralism and his texas strut has squandered the international political capital that we have accrued (paid for with billions of doallrs of foreign aid)over decades i.e. the Mr. Good Guy image.

Step out of the country my man and you will find that we are hated. Not in the ME or Asia but in Europe and Canada and Audtralia:yes:

Meanwhile, healthcare is almost unaffordable for the working middle class, inflation is looming around the corner.

Never had we had a government as screwed up as this current one.

[*Robert* 2]

I have to admit, I really hate seeing all that money being spent on what I would call a "negative return investment", when money could be used much better back here at home.

As for the deaths of US soldiers, that just shouldn't be happening.

[slim 1,533]

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

A huge moral victory that is shifting the momentum of the war???

Obviously, as evidenced by the explosion at a mosque earlier today that killed several Iraqis and two US Marines. (I guess they didn't get the memo.)

I wonder if your Al-Qaeda source also revealed the THOUSANDS of documents that the US Government has released, and even debated over on the floor of Congress that support our side isn't doing so well in Iraq. You could probably find on the New York Times, Washington Post, even the fair and balanced Foxnews.com numerous documents that would support the fact that we too are trying to find a reason to go to war with Iran. (Although if Al-Qaeda is gonna give us a good reason, we may just jump on it.)

And obviously this war isn't going to be won overnight. IT'S NOT A REAL WAR!!!! It's like the war on drugs. Sure, we've declared war on something, but who is the enemy? All we hear about is an "unknown" enemy that is out there somewhere. There are terrorists out there. But, which ones are we at war with? All of them? Cause not too long ago the #1 terrorists were our #1 allies. The US military is awesome at defeating it's enemies, and I believe if the US Government could effectively identify an enemy force to the military, they could effectively terminate them in very short order. That's where the problem lies. THERE IS NO ENEMY FORCE. There are thousands of enemies, but no enemy force. The military cannot go around and kill onesies, twosies and expect to win the "war."

So we need to imprison those who preach hate, support the insurgents, and commit the atrocities? Kind of like the ones we have at Gitmo? Bang up job so far. Let's keep that up. Let's not address why people preach hate and commit atrocities, let's just lock up the ones that are spreading the word.

Please give me an example of an "innocent person" who was beheaded.

Someone turned in Al-Zarqawi becuase they were offered an amount of money that was the equivalent of winning the lottery. There is no shortage of volunteers for the Iraqi army and police forces becuase there is a lack of employment elsewhere, and often these are the only jobs available.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat??? Kind of like what we did in Vietnam?

The 5,000 so-called "terrorist attacks" that have happened worldwide since 2000, were not all actual terrorist attacks, but acts of violence conveniently labeled by governments as "terror attacks" to artificially inflate the numbers. For instance, just about every battle between rebel groups in Sri Lanka or Malaysia is labeled as a "terror attack" because the insurgents are Muslim. (The fact that the govt. forces they are clashing with are Muslim too doesn't matter I guess.... as long as one side is Muslim, we can count it as terrorism, right?)

The only terrorists who are being appeased right now are the ones that are legally allowed to make millions of dollars off the death and destruction resulting from an illegal war.

[ual777 0]

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

A huge moral victory that is shifting the momentum of the war???

Obviously, as evidenced by the explosion at a mosque earlier today that killed several Iraqis and two US Marines. (I guess they didn't get the memo.)

I wonder if your Al-Qaeda source also revealed the THOUSANDS of documents that the US Government has released, and even debated over on the floor of Congress that support our side isn't doing so well in Iraq. You could probably find on the New York Times, Washington Post, even the fair and balanced Foxnews.com numerous documents that would support the fact that we too are trying to find a reason to go to war with Iran. (Although if Al-Qaeda is gonna give us a good reason, we may just jump on it.)

And obviously this war isn't going to be won overnight. IT'S NOT A REAL WAR!!!! It's like the war on drugs. Sure, we've declared war on something, but who is the enemy? All we hear about is an "unknown" enemy that is out there somewhere. There are terrorists out there. But, which ones are we at war with? All of them? Cause not too long ago the #1 terrorists were our #1 allies. The US military is awesome at defeating it's enemies, and I believe if the US Government could effectively identify an enemy force to the military, they could effectively terminate them in very short order. That's where the problem lies. THERE IS NO ENEMY FORCE. There are thousands of enemies, but no enemy force. The military cannot go around and kill onesies, twosies and expect to win the "war."

So we need to imprison those who preach hate, support the insurgents, and commit the atrocities? Kind of like the ones we have at Gitmo? Bang up job so far. Let's keep that up. Let's not address why people preach hate and commit atrocities, let's just lock up the ones that are spreading the word.

Please give me an example of an "innocent person" who was beheaded.

Someone turned in Al-Zarqawi becuase they were offered an amount of money that was the equivalent of winning the lottery. There is no shortage of volunteers for the Iraqi army and police forces becuase there is a lack of employment elsewhere, and often these are the only jobs available.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat??? Kind of like what we did in Vietnam?

The 5,000 so-called "terrorist attacks" that have happened worldwide since 2000, were not all actual terrorist attacks, but acts of violence conveniently labeled by governments as "terror attacks" to artificially inflate the numbers. For instance, just about every battle between rebel groups in Sri Lanka or Malaysia is labeled as a "terror attack" because the insurgents are Muslim. (The fact that the govt. forces they are clashing with are Muslim too doesn't matter I guess.... as long as one side is Muslim, we can count it as terrorism, right?)

The only terrorists who are being appeased right now are the ones that are legally allowed to make millions of dollars off the death and destruction resulting from an illegal war.

Im going to try to make this as clear as possible.

Yes, Zarqawi's death is changing the momentum of the war. Of course it doesn't change overnight, but the comment you made about the mosque and not recieving the message is moronic. YES he will be replaced, and YES will will have to kill Al-Mustafa or whatever his name is, and YES he will probably be replaced. HOWEVER, as you kill off their leadership, they are replaced with inferior leaders, and thus cannot execute their missions as they would wish, the make stupid mistakes, and their morale will fall.

Unfortunatly you fail to see that and instead make ignorant broad-sweeping statements while not answering the question.

As for the beheadings: Do the names Berg, Armstong, and Johnson ring a bell? These are just three of hundreds. This is not just an anamoly. They do it for real, but you won't see it until its too late Slim.

Have you ever seen any of the beheading videos Slim? Have you seen what a VILE AND DISGUSTING sight it is?

You can see them at www.michaelsavage.com

The enemy is radical islam. They are not mad over European imperialism, they are not mad over us being able to play soccer better, they are mad because WE ARE NOT AN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC! The enemy is elusive yes, but they can be defeated. This is TOTALLY different than Vietnam slim. You can ask my boss who is a former Marine (as am I) and who has the Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars (all 3 with Combat 'V's) and 3 Purple Hearts.

I am not just talking about 'Malaysia and Sri Lanka.' It has happened in Israel, the U.K., Bali, Lebanon, Pakistan, India, Thailand, the Phillipines, the U.S., Spain, France, and Algeria just to name a few.

Why is it whenever Islam obtaines a foothold in a country they clash with other religions? Why did they try to destroy Israel in the 20th century. WHY DID THEY HELP THE NAZIS TO KILL JEWS AND HAVE THEIR OWN SS UNIT IN WORLD WAR 2 SLIM?

I really feel sorry for you. You think that Bush and Co. are just war-mongers who want war with everyone. We won't go to war with Iran, barring a nuclear attack on the U.S. and you know that.

However, the thing that saddens me most, is that you say you served in the military, and you don't even want to win.

Semper Fi.

ual777

[Ban Hammer 14,275]

Perhaps you dont comprehend the word "war'. The killing of Zarqawi was a huge moral victory for us and is shifting the momentum to our cause. In addition, an Al-Qaeda document was recovered stating that they are loosing the war in Iraq, and they are trying to find a way to make the U.S. go to war with Iran in order take pressure off of them. However, you cannot possibly expect that the war will be one overnight. That is like saying 'well Rommel is dead......why are the Nazis still fighting?'

The problem is that the enemy is motivated by an extremist ideology that extends further than this life. They TRULY believe that they will achieve salvation by blowing up a crowd of civilians. This makes the nature of the fight much tougher but not impossible.

In order to win we must first imprison those who preach hate, those who support the insurgents, and those who execute the horrible atrocities.

Who cares if we are pissing them off? They cut off innocent people's head and that PISSES ME OFF! I hope they all get a 500lb. bomb dropped on their head. The Iraqis are also helping us more than they are helping the terrorists. Someone turned in Zarqawi which is a step in the right direction, and there is also no shortage of Iraqi recruits for their national guard and police forces.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat.

I bet you believe that the 5,000 islamic terrorist attacks that have occured worldwide since 2000 are all the U.S.s fualt right?

Furthermore, the western world MUST STOP using the appeasement policy to try to calm potential/current terrorists down. This has never worked in the past and it will not work now.

A huge moral victory that is shifting the momentum of the war???

Obviously, as evidenced by the explosion at a mosque earlier today that killed several Iraqis and two US Marines. (I guess they didn't get the memo.)

I wonder if your Al-Qaeda source also revealed the THOUSANDS of documents that the US Government has released, and even debated over on the floor of Congress that support our side isn't doing so well in Iraq. You could probably find on the New York Times, Washington Post, even the fair and balanced Foxnews.com numerous documents that would support the fact that we too are trying to find a reason to go to war with Iran. (Although if Al-Qaeda is gonna give us a good reason, we may just jump on it.)

And obviously this war isn't going to be won overnight. IT'S NOT A REAL WAR!!!! It's like the war on drugs. Sure, we've declared war on something, but who is the enemy? All we hear about is an "unknown" enemy that is out there somewhere. There are terrorists out there. But, which ones are we at war with? All of them? Cause not too long ago the #1 terrorists were our #1 allies. The US military is awesome at defeating it's enemies, and I believe if the US Government could effectively identify an enemy force to the military, they could effectively terminate them in very short order. That's where the problem lies. THERE IS NO ENEMY FORCE. There are thousands of enemies, but no enemy force. The military cannot go around and kill onesies, twosies and expect to win the "war."

So we need to imprison those who preach hate, support the insurgents, and commit the atrocities? Kind of like the ones we have at Gitmo? Bang up job so far. Let's keep that up. Let's not address why people preach hate and commit atrocities, let's just lock up the ones that are spreading the word.

Please give me an example of an "innocent person" who was beheaded.

Someone turned in Al-Zarqawi becuase they were offered an amount of money that was the equivalent of winning the lottery. There is no shortage of volunteers for the Iraqi army and police forces becuase there is a lack of employment elsewhere, and often these are the only jobs available.

Time is on our side, and we can grind them into defeat??? Kind of like what we did in Vietnam?

The 5,000 so-called "terrorist attacks" that have happened worldwide since 2000, were not all actual terrorist attacks, but acts of violence conveniently labeled by governments as "terror attacks" to artificially inflate the numbers. For instance, just about every battle between rebel groups in Sri Lanka or Malaysia is labeled as a "terror attack" because the insurgents are Muslim. (The fact that the govt. forces they are clashing with are Muslim too doesn't matter I guess.... as long as one side is Muslim, we can count it as terrorism, right?)

The only terrorists who are being appeased right now are the ones that are legally allowed to make millions of dollars off the death and destruction resulting from an illegal war.

Im going to try to make this as clear as possible.

Yes, Zarqawi's death is changing the momentum of the war. Of course it doesn't change overnight, but the comment you made about the mosque and not recieving the message is moronic. YES he will be replaced, and YES will will have to kill Al-Mustafa or whatever his name is, and YES he will probably be replaced. HOWEVER, as you kill off their leadership, they are replaced with inferior leaders, and thus cannot execute their missions as they would wish, the make stupid mistakes, and their morale will fall.

Unfortunatly you fail to see that and instead make ignorant broad-sweeping statements while not answering the question.

As for the beheadings: Do the names Berg, Armstong, and Johnson ring a bell? These are just three of hundreds. This is not just an anamoly. They do it for real, but you won't see it until its too late Slim.

Have you ever seen any of the beheading videos Slim? Have you seen what a VILE AND DISGUSTING sight it is?

You can see them at www.michaelsavage.com

The enemy is radical islam. They are not mad over European imperialism, they are not mad over us being able to play soccer better, they are mad because WE ARE NOT AN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC! The enemy is elusive yes, but they can be defeated. This is TOTALLY different than Vietnam slim. You can ask my boss who is a former Marine (as am I) and who has the Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars (all 3 with Combat 'V's) and 3 Purple Hearts.

I am not just talking about 'Malaysia and Sri Lanka.' It has happened in Israel, the U.K., Bali, Lebanon, Pakistan, India, Thailand, the Phillipines, the U.S., Spain, France, and Algeria just to name a few.

Why is it whenever Islam obtaines a foothold in a country they clash with other religions? Why did they try to destroy Israel in the 20th century. WHY DID THEY HELP THE NAZIS TO KILL JEWS AND HAVE THEIR OWN SS UNIT IN WORLD WAR 2 SLIM?

I really feel sorry for you. You think that Bush and Co. are just war-mongers who want war with everyone. We won't go to war with Iran, barring a nuclear attack on the U.S. and you know that.

However, the thing that saddens me most, is that you say you served in the military, and you don't even want to win.

Semper Fi.

ual777

[yabasta 0]

The pro war lobby on this site are saying some really dumb things. I haven`t been bothering with them lately due to getting my interview date and therefore i got better things to think about.

It does seem however that people will make this fit their views. If we kil x number of people we can somehow translate that to a positive right? Yeah we killed 100 people who were "evil". Well here is a thought. Imagine every person you kill has one friend and one son and one brother and one uncle and one sympathetic stranger. Then you have 500 replacements "evil" men who no doubt will be even worse because they have that added anger.

I won`t ask what the right wing solution is because i know what the right wing solution is. Kill all people on earth with different views to yourself right?

Ignorance to the repercussions of your actions is dangerous. If you think 9/11 was an act of 19 cave dwelling boxcutting savages then by all means destroy the middle east and it`s human beings and then fly your flags over the rubble of the next 500 WTC type attacks. Your actions have consequences and the bigger your acts of murder, however much you can justify them in your head, the more worried you should be. Yes you should be watching above your heads next.

Funny that they know the new boss man already isn`t it? I guess they got both pictures taken at the same time.

[Ban Hammer 14,275]

The pro war lobby on this site are saying some really dumb things. I haven`t been bothering with them lately due to getting my interview date and therefore i got better things to think about.

and yet the anti war lobby does not say dumb things?

It does seem however that people will make this fit their views. If we kil x number of people we can somehow translate that to a positive right? Yeah we killed 100 people who were "evil". Well here is a thought. Imagine every person you kill has one friend and one son and one brother and one uncle and one sympathetic stranger. Then you have 500 replacements "evil" men who no doubt will be even worse because they have that added anger.

and you're guilty of the same thing with that math. given such, why did we not have to exterminate every german in ww2? every japanese? if you wish to argue that the situation was different then, then take for example terry nichols - why didn't his relatives "join his cause" afterwards?

I won`t ask what the right wing solution is because i know what the right wing solution is. Kill all people on earth with different views to yourself right?

your statement is not the least bit surprising, and highly uninformed again. i could flip the coin and say the left wing solution is peace and brotherhood with everyone of different views (and we both know how unrealistic that is).

Ignorance to the repercussions of your actions is dangerous. If you think 9/11 was an act of 19 cave dwelling boxcutting savages then by all means destroy the middle east and it`s human beings and then fly your flags over the rubble of the next 500 WTC type attacks. Your actions have consequences and the bigger your acts of murder, however much you can justify them in your head, the more worried you should be. Yes you should be watching above your heads next.

as is ignorance of no actions. as ronald reagen once said, the usa was never attacked because it was too strong. when do you plan on waking up and realizing that in dealing with militant radicals, there is only one solution?

Funny that they know the new boss man already isn`t it? I guess they got both pictures taken at the same time.

oh yeah, funny that our intelligence network actually works eh?

is his name "terrorist temporary" by any chance?