Muslim sues Tesco over having to handle alcohol

[Saddle Bronc 124]

FWIU the prohibition is the personal consumption of anything intoxicating.

I'm not sure that's true, or at least I don't think it's the majority interpretation.

Stolen from another discussion I read:

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OK, your citation has to do with selling or giving as a gift. If he believes transporting it with a forklift is equivalent to selling, then just working for a business that sells alcohol should be the same thing.

Dude should work somewhere else or go back to the KSA.

Agree.

I can remember reading an analogous skit in Grade-8 SocStudies where a jeweller interviews a 17-year-old for vacancy of shop assistant. When he gets to the duties, which involve cleaning the loo, the applicant says "no way" and leaves.

Ergo, the Saudi stockboy here could easily have asked if the duties involved "handling" (rather loose) any haram items (or Tesco could have informed him) and avoided the whole issue entirely--unless he was intentionally trying to set up a lawsuit situation.

[Mrs.J06 4]

Reminds me of this guy from Pakistan that calls into our office every once in a while asking for technical support he would usually get from me. Since he's not willing to take technical advice from a woman, he always asks to talk to a male colleague who then has to relate my answers to him.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

The only sensible thing to is this:

I declare:

(ahem)

Alcohol should have a global ban and pot can be legalized.

That way there is no more violent nor aggressive behaviour, no more drunk driving (killing).

Pot well, it helps the economy, as people get the munchies!

And pot gets people perpetually laughing/giggling and wanting to make nice.

Plus, and here's the bonus, ingesting pot helps cure many ailments.

Not a bad proposition is you ask me.

I cannot comprehend the U.S.'s stance on a weed that is actually good for you if responsible with it.

It feels like I'm talking with children whenever pot comes up here.

Legalize pot for starters

[Saddle Bronc 124]

OK, your citation has to do with selling or giving as a gift. If he believes transporting it with a forklift is equivalent to selling, then just working for a business that sells alcohol should be the same thing.

Dude should work somewhere else or go back to the KSA.

Yes, I think this is how a lot of people feel about it. Agreed he should work somewhere else.

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

Do you want theoretical or practical approach?

• bribe cabinet members (perhaps including supremo) to look other way
• redefine high-mucky-muck executives to be elite exempt from halal/haram concepts (oft aid will be given on this matter by cabinet members or supremos)

[rclouse 0]

OK, your citation has to do with selling or giving as a gift. If he believes transporting it with a forklift is equivalent to selling, then just working for a business that sells alcohol should be the same thing.

Dude should work somewhere else or go back to the KSA.

Yes, I think this is how a lot of people feel about it. Agreed he should work somewhere else.

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

Do you want theoretical or practical approach?

• bribe cabinet members (perhaps including supremo) to look other way
• redefine high-mucky-muck executives to be elite exempt from halal/haram concepts (oft aid will be given on this matter by cabinet members or supremos)

The Koran has a lot of anachronisms and there needs to be a consensus to bring Islam into the 21st century. Stuff that perhaps made sense at the time of the Prophet probably doesn't make sense today. With the usury (interest) example, at that time there were probably only loan sharks who'd loan you money, so the Koran makes usury haram. Understandable. But today that doesn't make sense and it's not workable in the global economy.

To me the greatest anachronism is slavery. It really bothers me that having a beer is considered a huge sin, but owning a person isn't. So until someone can convince me why a beer is worse than slavery, you can find me enjoying an SNPA or two every now & then.

[morocco4ever 63]

OK, your citation has to do with selling or giving as a gift. If he believes transporting it with a forklift is equivalent to selling, then just working for a business that sells alcohol should be the same thing.

Dude should work somewhere else or go back to the KSA.

Yes, I think this is how a lot of people feel about it. Agreed he should work somewhere else.

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

Do you want theoretical or practical approach?

• bribe cabinet members (perhaps including supremo) to look other way
• redefine high-mucky-muck executives to be elite exempt from halal/haram concepts (oft aid will be given on this matter by cabinet members or supremos)

The Koran has a lot of anachronisms and there needs to be a consensus to bring Islam into the 21st century. Stuff that perhaps made sense at the time of the Prophet probably doesn't make sense today. With the usury (interest) example, at that time there were probably only loan sharks who'd loan you money, so the Koran makes usury haram. Understandable. But today that doesn't make sense and it's not workable in the global economy.

To me the greatest anachronism is slavery. It really bothers me that having a beer is considered a huge sin, but owning a person isn't. So until someone can convince me why a beer is worse than slavery, you can find me enjoying an SNPA or two every now & then.

It does seem odd that he wouldn't know already that he would have to handle alcohol if a business sells the stuff. My husband interviewed for a job, although it would not be a large amount, the job would have included handling alcohol. He told them that due to religious reasons he would not handle it. That is his right. They didn't offer him the job. That is their right. He doesn't hold anything against them, its the way it is. He simply found a job that wouldn't ever include alcohol. Is that really so hard to figure out?

[SteveLaura 0]

It does seem odd that he wouldn't know already that he would have to handle alcohol if a business sells the stuff. My husband interviewed for a job, although it would not be a large amount, the job would have included handling alcohol. He told them that due to religious reasons he would not handle it. That is his right. They didn't offer him the job. That is their right. He doesn't hold anything against them, its the way it is. He simply found a job that wouldn't ever include alcohol. Is that really so hard to figure out?

I agree. I find this difficult to understand also when hired Christian pharmacists feel they can impose their own beliefs regarding the morning after pill onto their paying customers. 'You know what, you chose that job. That's part of it. Maybe this isn't suited to you after all..'

If the forklift bloke knew that handling alcohol was a given (as the company claims), I don't see he has too much to argue against.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

"Islamic banking" - a scam in which they bundle the expected interest payments into the principal and reduce the interest rate to 0.

[Jenn! 918]

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

"Islamic banking" - a scam in which they bundle the expected interest payments into the principal and reduce the interest rate to 0.

Scam indeed. Is anyone really fooled?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Off the subject, but it just came to mind. How do corporations in Muslim countries function with the whole usury being haram thing?

"Islamic banking" - a scam in which they bundle the expected interest payments into the principal and reduce the interest rate to 0.

Scam indeed. Is anyone really fooled?

I know the Muslim community in India uses it a lot. Not because they are fooled, but because it passes religious muster of the religious authorities, and that's important to them.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

It does seem odd that he wouldn't know already that he would have to handle alcohol if a business sells the stuff. My husband interviewed for a job, although it would not be a large amount, the job would have included handling alcohol. He told them that due to religious reasons he would not handle it. That is his right. They didn't offer him the job. That is their right. He doesn't hold anything against them, its the way it is. He simply found a job that wouldn't ever include alcohol. Is that really so hard to figure out?

I guess for Saudis or NOI (followers of Looie Farakhan), it is.

[luckytxn 2,265]

The only sensible thing to is this:

I declare:

(ahem)

Alcohol should have a global ban and pot can be legalized.

That way there is no more violent nor aggressive behaviour, no more drunk driving (killing).

Pot well, it helps the economy, as people get the munchies!

And pot gets people perpetually laughing/giggling and wanting to make nice.

Plus, and here's the bonus, ingesting pot helps cure many ailments.

Not a bad proposition is you ask me.

I cannot comprehend the U.S.'s stance on a weed that is actually good for you if responsible with it.

It feels like I'm talking with children whenever pot comes up here.

Legalize pot for starters

Duuuuude! Don't bogart.....share.

[Scott & Lai 12]

The only sensible thing to is this:

I declare:

(ahem)

Alcohol should have a global ban and pot can be legalized.

That way there is no more violent nor aggressive behaviour, no more drunk driving (killing).

Pot well, it helps the economy, as people get the munchies!

And pot gets people perpetually laughing/giggling and wanting to make nice.

Plus, and here's the bonus, ingesting pot helps cure many ailments.

Not a bad proposition is you ask me.

I cannot comprehend the U.S.'s stance on a weed that is actually good for you if responsible with it.

It feels like I'm talking with children whenever pot comes up here.

So, because some people don't have the sense or the ability to drink responsibly, everyone else has to be penalized along with them? I'll pass...