Obama's stuttering in debate...Why

[villaspurs 65]

I care that Obama associates with known terrorists, that he is involved with shady land deals with even shadier individuals, and that he has such a close relationship with a racist bigot who spews absolute sh!t. Alarm bells !!!

No one is allowed to talk about that. Except for being Black and a commuunity organizer, Obama guy didn't exist prior to entering the US Senate.

You get that!

Frankly, I don't understand how White folks can disregard the fact that he sat in the pews and listened to all that anti-white ####### for more than 20 years and still vote for him. That's why I believe most of this capitulation to him in the liberal media and populace is about White Guilt big time.

What about all the hateful sewage coming out of Sarah Palin's church? That's okay?

I don't understand how you would possibly think Barack Obama--raised by white grandparents--is anti-white. If that's not what you meant by the post, then why the hell would we care what his preacher said about white people at all? If it didn't affect Obama's perspectives and positions, then what difference does it make?

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

[Dan J 277]

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

True. The DEMOCRAT controlled Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush. And most of them have been in federal office far longer than he has.

My objective opinion of how much legislation one should have under their belt before running for president is that I'm not all that excited about federal legislators running for president. Most have never met a payroll nor been an executive administrator. A sitting US senator hasn't been elected president since Kennedy in 1960, and there is a good reason for that.

Congress is made up of people you like and don't like. How many people are really going to give a favorable rating of people they don't like. But on the other hand, individual ratings of each congress person tends to be a lot higher.

[villaspurs 65]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

I think she's sufficiently proved that "real average citizens" aren't prepared to run for the Presidency. She's a joke. No one is reeling from her anymore--except inside the McCain camp, where they're desperately trying to figure out how to keep her away from any non-scripted questions.

[Dan J 277]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

I think she's sufficiently proved that "real average citizens" aren't prepared to run for the Presidency. She's a joke. No one is reeling from her anymore--except inside the McCain camp, where they're desperately trying to figure out how to keep her away from any non-scripted questions.

I disagree. At least until the VP debates come and we can see her prove her mettle against Biden then the Obama camp and sheep are going to continue to be fighting to recover their lost ground. They do not then they lose big time. I expected Obama at the debate to do much better and close the gap but he surprised me by blowing it (In my opinion).

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

[Cassie 8]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Big whoop. Obama's been getting big crowds too. Next?

Oh, and if she can't handle an interview with Katie Couric, she's not going to be able to handle a debate.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Cassie

[Dan J 277]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Watch the her interview with Katie Couric.

Her popularity does not come from her skills or experience. It comes from her identity. Her image as a right wing, christian conservative mom is appealing to certain types of people. Who cares that she will probably never make a good leader.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Dan + Gemvita

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Big whoop. Obama's been getting big crowds too. Next?

Oh, and if she can't handle an interview with Katie Couric, she's not going to be able to handle a debate.

Thanks for proving me right. Obama sheep keep saying how she is so bad and hurting Mccains chances then why is she drawing so many to her?

Only when the debate comes can we then say she can't handle a debate. So far she has proven every naysayer wrong. Truth be known I think Biden will wipe the floor with her but then again I thought Obama would do better than McCain and I was wrong.

Guess the tactic is then to keep hitting Palin and hope she breaks and then Obama can get back his standing. Not very sound tactics to me.

[britty 1]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Big whoop. Obama's been getting big crowds too. Next?

Oh, and if she can't handle an interview with Katie Couric, she's not going to be able to handle a debate.

Obama is running for President - Sarah Palin is not. If you want to make accurate comparisons you need to compare the crowds she has drawn to those that Biden has drawn.

[Dan J 277]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Big whoop. Obama's been getting big crowds too. Next?

Oh, and if she can't handle an interview with Katie Couric, she's not going to be able to handle a debate.

Thanks for proving me right. Obama sheep keep saying how she is so bad and hurting Mccains chances then why is she drawing so many to her?

Only when the debate comes can we then say she can't handle a debate. So far she has proven every naysayer wrong. Truth be known I think Biden will wipe the floor with her but then again I thought Obama would do better than McCain and I was wrong.

Guess the tactic is then to keep hitting Palin and hope she breaks and then Obama can get back his standing. Not very sound tactics to me.

She isn't really drawing many new people to McCain that wouldn't already be voting for him. She just help excite those who were not very happy with McCain, but certainly wouldn't be voting for Obama.

[villaspurs 65]

The beauty of being Sarah Palin right now is that the expectations for her performance at the debate are exceedingly low. If she doesn't literally fall over, she'll have a victory. That's what happened with McCain last night--people expected him to be off due to the confusion of whether or not he was going to attend, so when he seemed ready to go people were impressed.

Luckytxn, not too many people thought Obama was going to blow McCain away in this debate--before he started the shenanigans with calling it off, the expectation was that this would be McCain's to lose. The topic was foreign policy, an area in which McCain was clearly held in higher esteem than Obama before the debate. Among undecideds watching, evidence suggests that Obama actually did a good job of shoring up their perceptions that he could be a reliable and effective Commander-in-Chief.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Watch the her interview with Katie Couric.

Her popularity does not come from her skills or experience. It comes from her identity. Her image as a right wing, christian conservative mom is appealing to certain types of people. Who cares that she will probably never make a good leader.

Saw it actually and cringed as much as listening to Obama stammer so much last night.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I saw it as gutsy and shocking. It definately shook up the Obama camp big time and they are still reeling from it. Never expected the Obama camp to have to go after McCains VP pick so much to recover lost ground like they have.

Strangely she is the only one of the 4 (Presidential and VP) that is closest to a real average citizen. To see them go after her so hard seems that they are attacking a actual citizen being able to be president. That is elitist thinking.

Except she is lacking even basic knowledge of current world events, which could be gained from say reading the newspaper?

Show us where she is lacking such basic knowledge. So far she has been receiving huge crowds everywhere she shows. She is very popular and unless she really blows at the debate then McCain has this sewn up.

Big whoop. Obama's been getting big crowds too. Next?

Oh, and if she can't handle an interview with Katie Couric, she's not going to be able to handle a debate.

Thanks for proving me right. Obama sheep keep saying how she is so bad and hurting Mccains chances then why is she drawing so many to her?

Only when the debate comes can we then say she can't handle a debate. So far she has proven every naysayer wrong. Truth be known I think Biden will wipe the floor with her but then again I thought Obama would do better than McCain and I was wrong.

Guess the tactic is then to keep hitting Palin and hope she breaks and then Obama can get back his standing. Not very sound tactics to me.

She isn't really drawing many new people to McCain that wouldn't already be voting for him. She just help excite those who were not very happy with McCain, but certainly wouldn't be voting for Obama.

If she excites them so much then that is a vote for Mccain and not Obama. Obama needs a lot of votes.