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I did NOT say that VSC should stop doing all other things in order to work only on my case or only on K3s. This would be really silly. Maybe I didn't make myself clear... I don't want people in your situation to suffer just because they are only processing K3s... Same way I don't want us (k3s) to suffer because they are processing any other visa or petition instead! I just said that they could organize themselves not to stop K3s and CR1s from being processed due to the other petitions they have to handle. This is a simple concept, but I don't know what stops them from doing it.

I am very aware that the whole immigration process, until you become a citizen, takes a long time, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers me to be thousands of miles far away from my husband for 6 months already. Once I'm with him, I can take the rest of the wait for the other papers. If you are not happy with their delay reagarding your case, you have the right to complain, contact ombudsman, cry, shout, do whatever you feel like doing. Just as we do.

I've pulled up a chair to seat and wait, since there are not many things I can do about it. However, I'm not waiting quiet, because keeping bad feelings inside may cause a lot of serious health problems. This is kind of scientific.

So... don't let your frustrations affect the way you read posts. It is nothing personal. We just wish things were different. Good for everybody...

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

i agree with Monica&Isha :thumbs: . i cud give 2 s**ts and a rat's a** about AOS and removal of conditions after my wife gets here. yes, we have to worry about it but its not going to be the first and last thing on my mind..we have our lives to deal with it...atleast she will be here with me and we will go for it together...

Sooo true... i could care less if my wife and baby sky-dived out of a plane into a bare ### field and i had to pick them up like that... but at least they would be HERE with me, we'd be together. I mean... USCIS and the dept of homeland security sit there and wonder how to fix the illegal immigration problems... IDIOTS! If it wasnt so damn hard for people to LEGALLY get here maybe they'd try it the legal way....

CR1

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-19

Touched : 2008-09-26

Touched : 2008-09-27(they work on saturdays?)

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-29

222 DAYS

CR2 (Our)daughter

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-06-27

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-26

89 DAYS

K3

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA2: 2008-09-29

173 DAYS

~~~NVC~~~

10-01-2008 NVC Case Recieved/Numbers Assigned

10-02-2008 NVC IIN Numbers Acquired after 14 tries. (take the "call after 10p" tup) it WORKS

10-04-2008 Paid AOS $70 AND sent DS-3032 by email (.pdf) and by MAIL

10-08-2008 AOS SHOWED AS PAID - AOS Docs Sent out

10-08-2008 IV FEE GENERATED then PAID

10-08-2008 SDQ CONSULATE GRANTS EXPEDITE REQUEST AND REQUESTS CASE

10-27-2008 SDQ INFORMS MY WIFE, TO PICK UP "OPEN INTERVIEW" PAPERS

10-28-2008 INTERVIEW PAPERS AND MEDICAL INST. RECIEVED

10-29-2008 MEDICAL DONE

11-04-2008 MEDICAL RESULTS RECIEVED

11-05-2008 INTERVIEW (APPROVED)

#-#-#### VISA/PASSPORT(S) RECEIVED

#-#-#### POE

TOTAL DAYS FORM PETITION TO INTERVIEW-260 DAYS or 8 months, 17 days

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I did NOT say that VSC should stop doing all other things in order to work only on my case or only on K3s. This would be really silly. Maybe I didn't make myself clear... I don't want people in your situation to suffer just because they are only processing K3s... Same way I don't want us (k3s) to suffer because they are processing any other visa or petition instead! I just said that they could organize themselves not to stop K3s and CR1s from being processed due to the other petitions they have to handle. This is a simple concept, but I don't know what stops them from doing it.

I am very aware that the whole immigration process, until you become a citizen, takes a long time, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers me to be thousands of miles far away from my husband for 6 months already. Once I'm with him, I can take the rest of the wait for the other papers. If you are not happy with their delay reagarding your case, you have the right to complain, contact ombudsman, cry, shout, do whatever you feel like doing. Just as we do.

I've pulled up a chair to seat and wait, since there are not many things I can do about it. However, I'm not waiting quiet, because keeping bad feelings inside may cause a lot of serious health problems. This is kind of scientific.

So... don't let your frustrations affect the way you read posts. It is nothing personal. We just wish things were different. Good for everybody...

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

i agree with Monica&Isha :thumbs: . i cud give 2 s**ts and a rat's a** about AOS and removal of conditions after my wife gets here. yes, we have to worry about it but its not going to be the first and last thing on my mind..we have our lives to deal with it...atleast she will be here with me and we will go for it together...

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First time chatting on yahoo messenger: Jan 6, 2007
Met in person in Manila: May 12, 2007
Returned to Manila: Sep 25, 2007
Will you marry me?: Sep 26, 2007
Wedding: Jan 5, 2008
Mailed I-130 Petition application: Aug 11, 2008
NOA1 for I-130: Aug 15, 2008
Touched (I-130): Aug 21, 2008
Mailed I-129F (K-3) application: Aug 22, 2008
NOA1 for I-129F (K-3): Aug 27, 2008
Touched (K-3): Sep 1, 2008
Touched (I-130): Oct 8, 2008
Touched (I-130): Oct 9, 2008
Approved (K-3 and I-130): Feb 11, 2009
Interview: 6/3/2009- Approved!
POE: 8/25/2009!

AOS
Sent: 3/3/2011
NOA1: 3/11/2011
Biometrics: 4/5/2011 - everything went fine!
RFE: 4/11/2011
RFE response received by USCIS: 4/28/2011

N-400

Filed: 7/17/2014

Text receipt: 7/23/2014

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Thank GOD, he is in control of it all, including all the authorities who are handling our petitions. But I do agree that if non-citizens are being given preference for ANY reason over US citizens, it is awful. I dont know the true reasons for this HUGE delay over that of California, but I sure do pray God reunites us all with our loved ones soon...

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Pakistan
Timeline

USCIS Welcomes More Than 39,000 New Citizens during Constitution Week and Citizenship Day

WASHINGTON – More than 39,000 individuals will become new citizens of the United States this week during special ceremonies hosted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to recognize Constitution Week. Naturalization ceremonies held September 17 through September 23 commemorate the signing of the U.S. Constitution on September 17, 1787.

Think this has anything to do with the slow down at Vermont? If they were the only ones handling all these 39000 naturalization applicants, then no wonder.

K3 Visa

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Islamabad, Pakistan

I-130 Sent : 2008-01-22

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-13

I-130 Approval : 2008-09-08

I-129F Sent : 2008-03-03

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-03-04 (Received in post : 2008-03-18)

I-129F NOA2 : 2008-09-08

NVC Received : 2008-09-15

NVC left: 2008-09-16

Embassy received: Around 2008-09-23

Package 3.5 received: 2008-10-08

PAckage 3.5 sent: 2008-10-09

Medical: 2008-11-10

Interview date: 2008-11-24

Date of entry into US: 2008-12-14

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Brazil
Timeline
USCIS Welcomes More Than 39,000 New Citizens during Constitution Week and Citizenship Day

WASHINGTON – More than 39,000 individuals will become new citizens of the United States this week during special ceremonies hosted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to recognize Constitution Week. Naturalization ceremonies held September 17 through September 23 commemorate the signing of the U.S. Constitution on September 17, 1787.

Think this has anything to do with the slow down at Vermont? If they were the only ones handling all these 39000 naturalization applicants, then no wonder.

From now on there are no more excuses to VSC. If the ceremonies started today, they probably won't add anyone to it. Of course they will continue processing those type of petitions, but at least I expect they don't stop working on K3s to work exclusively on those.

Our Immigration Timeline:

Form I-130 sent to Chicago - 03/18/08 (Case in VSC)

NOA 1 - 03/26/08

Updates - 04/01/08; 06/16/08; 06/17/08

NOA 2 - 01/23/09

NVC received papers - 01/30/09

NVC generated DS 3032 and AOS bill - 02/02/09

DS 3032 sent by e-mail and snail mail - 02/02/09

NVC replied my e-mail confirming my choice of agent - 02/06/09

AOS bill received - 02/07/09

AOS bill and IV bill paid online - 02/07/09

AOS and IV display the PAID message - 02/11/09

AOS and DS-230 packages sent - 02/11/09

NVC received packages - 02/13/09

NVC sent RFE (mistake on DS-230) - 02/20/09

Form DS-230 re-sent (as requested) - 02/26/09

CASE COMPLETE - 03/05/09

Interview date assigned - 03/10/09

Case forwarded to the embassy - 03/11/09

Medical Examination - 04/08/09

CR1 interview - 04/09/09 - VISA APPROVED!

Visa in hand - 04/??/09

POE - 04/??/09

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails." 1 Corinthians 13:4-8

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You clearly do not understand what the N600 is...

The primary benneficiaries of the N-600 are ones who have not attained the age of majority and therefore are not yet eligible to vote. Therefore N-600 processing push because of an election year are not even closely related.

You said it. :thumbs:

USCIS Welcomes More Than 39,000 New Citizens during Constitution Week and Citizenship Day

WASHINGTON – More than 39,000 individuals will become new citizens of the United States this week during special ceremonies hosted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to recognize Constitution Week. Naturalization ceremonies held September 17 through September 23 commemorate the signing of the U.S. Constitution on September 17, 1787.

HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE.... is that good enough proof for you fwaguy, Gigli2008 ? ? ?

CR1

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-19

Touched : 2008-09-26

Touched : 2008-09-27(they work on saturdays?)

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-29

222 DAYS

CR2 (Our)daughter

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-06-27

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-26

89 DAYS

K3

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA2: 2008-09-29

173 DAYS

~~~NVC~~~

10-01-2008 NVC Case Recieved/Numbers Assigned

10-02-2008 NVC IIN Numbers Acquired after 14 tries. (take the "call after 10p" tup) it WORKS

10-04-2008 Paid AOS $70 AND sent DS-3032 by email (.pdf) and by MAIL

10-08-2008 AOS SHOWED AS PAID - AOS Docs Sent out

10-08-2008 IV FEE GENERATED then PAID

10-08-2008 SDQ CONSULATE GRANTS EXPEDITE REQUEST AND REQUESTS CASE

10-27-2008 SDQ INFORMS MY WIFE, TO PICK UP "OPEN INTERVIEW" PAPERS

10-28-2008 INTERVIEW PAPERS AND MEDICAL INST. RECIEVED

10-29-2008 MEDICAL DONE

11-04-2008 MEDICAL RESULTS RECIEVED

11-05-2008 INTERVIEW (APPROVED)

#-#-#### VISA/PASSPORT(S) RECEIVED

#-#-#### POE

TOTAL DAYS FORM PETITION TO INTERVIEW-260 DAYS or 8 months, 17 days

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You clearly do not understand what the N600 is...

The primary benneficiaries of the N-600 are ones who have not attained the age of majority and therefore are not yet eligible to vote. Therefore N-600 processing push because of an election year are not even closely related.

You said it. :thumbs:

USCIS Welcomes More Than 39,000 New Citizens during Constitution Week and Citizenship Day

WASHINGTON – More than 39,000 individuals will become new citizens of the United States this week during special ceremonies hosted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to recognize Constitution Week. Naturalization ceremonies held September 17 through September 23 commemorate the signing of the U.S. Constitution on September 17, 1787.

HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE.... is that good enough proof for you fwaguy, Gigli2008 ? ? ?

I think the only confusion is with the document names.

The N600 is an application for Certificate of Citizenship. This form is used by children who claim US citizenship by having a US Citizen parent but they were born outside the US.

The post above deals with Naturalization which is the N400 application.

the documents are closely named, but they serve two different purposes...

regardless... i hope Vermont starts to become efficient in how they process petitions :)

I-130 Journey

03/12/2008 I-130 Sent

03/17/2008 NOA1

05/07/2008, 05/08/2008 Touched

10/31/2008 Approved!!

NVC Journey

11/07/2008 I-130 Received; Case Number Assigned

11/12/2008 AOS Fee Bill Generated/DS3032 mailed

11/12/2008 Emailed DS3032 11/13/2008 Mailed DS3032 Hardcopy

11/15/2008 AOS Fee Bill Received in Mail (IIN Received in the mail)

11/17/2008 Paid AOS Fee Online

11/17/2008 DS3032 Accepted

11/18/2008 AOS Fee shows as Paid; Mailed AOS Packet overnight

11/18/2008 IV Fee Available, IV Fee Paid Online

11/20/2008 Mailed DS230 Packet Overnight, AOS Entered into the system (False RFE Message) Rec 11/21

11/24/2008 IV Bill hardcopy received (not needed since I paid online)

11/26/2008 NVC Case Complete 19 days!!

12/23/2008 CR1Visa In Hand

12/24/2008 POE San Juan

US Entry

01/09/2009 Welcome Letter/Card Processing ordered

01/15/2009 Green Card Received, 01/14/2009 SS Card Received

Removal of Conditions

10/16/2010 I751 Sent

10/25/2010 NOA Received NOA Date 10/19/2010

01/12/2011 Biometrics (Biometrics letter date 12/15/2010)

03/03/2011 Approved - Card Production Ordered

03/10/2011 GC Received

US Citizenship

10/13/2011 N400 Sent

10/18/2011 NOA 10/19/2011 Check Cashed

04/17/2012 Email bio letter sent (received 4/19/12)

04/24/2012 Early Bio due to travel plans (bio date orig 5/11/12)

04/30/2012 Interview letter received

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You clearly do not understand what the N600 is...

The primary benneficiaries of the N-600 are ones who have not attained the age of majority and therefore are not yet eligible to vote. Therefore N-600 processing push because of an election year are not even closely related.

You said it. :thumbs:

Out of the 39,000 NEW citizens... you dont' ONE of those was a child... not one? Isnt it also a coincidence that the N600 and the K3/K4 petitions have the same processing date... It looks like they are working on those N600's just as much as the N400.. i mean think about it.. if it was really that insignificant then there wouldnt be such a backlog on the N600... but apparently there's a lot... and apparently theres so many new citizens that there's even press releases for them....

When was the last time you saw.. - WASHINGTON--- 40,000 CR1's were approved today, USCIS is doing all it can to unite families worldwide.

NEVER

Votes and citizenship is more important to USCIS then the people who mow their lawn and pay the high fees of family reunification.

USCIS Welcomes More Than 39,000 New Citizens during Constitution Week and Citizenship Day

WASHINGTON – More than 39,000 individuals will become new citizens of the United States this week during special ceremonies hosted by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to recognize Constitution Week. Naturalization ceremonies held September 17 through September 23 commemorate the signing of the U.S. Constitution on September 17, 1787.

HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE.... is that good enough proof for you fwaguy, Gigli2008 ? ? ?

I think the only confusion is with the document names.

The N600 is an application for Certificate of Citizenship. This form is used by children who claim US citizenship by having a US Citizen parent but they were born outside the US.

The post above deals with Naturalization which is the N400 application.

the documents are closely named, but they serve two different purposes...

regardless... i hope Vermont starts to become efficient in how they process petitions :)

CR1

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-19

Touched : 2008-09-26

Touched : 2008-09-27(they work on saturdays?)

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-29

222 DAYS

CR2 (Our)daughter

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-06-27

I-130 NOA2 : 2008-09-26

89 DAYS

K3

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-04-08

I-129F NOA2: 2008-09-29

173 DAYS

~~~NVC~~~

10-01-2008 NVC Case Recieved/Numbers Assigned

10-02-2008 NVC IIN Numbers Acquired after 14 tries. (take the "call after 10p" tup) it WORKS

10-04-2008 Paid AOS $70 AND sent DS-3032 by email (.pdf) and by MAIL

10-08-2008 AOS SHOWED AS PAID - AOS Docs Sent out

10-08-2008 IV FEE GENERATED then PAID

10-08-2008 SDQ CONSULATE GRANTS EXPEDITE REQUEST AND REQUESTS CASE

10-27-2008 SDQ INFORMS MY WIFE, TO PICK UP "OPEN INTERVIEW" PAPERS

10-28-2008 INTERVIEW PAPERS AND MEDICAL INST. RECIEVED

10-29-2008 MEDICAL DONE

11-04-2008 MEDICAL RESULTS RECIEVED

11-05-2008 INTERVIEW (APPROVED)

#-#-#### VISA/PASSPORT(S) RECEIVED

#-#-#### POE

TOTAL DAYS FORM PETITION TO INTERVIEW-260 DAYS or 8 months, 17 days

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE.... is that good enough proof for you fwaguy, Gigli2008 ? ? ?

THAT IS THE RESULT OF THE N-400 NOT THE N-600....TRY AGAIN

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YMMV

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Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE.... is that good enough proof for you fwaguy, Gigli2008 ? ? ?

THAT IS THE RESULT OF THE N-400 NOT THE N-600....TRY AGAIN

Just remember that everyone of the New Citizens has already been down the road you are now on, so they have already have many long waits to get to the point of Citizenship.

Yes having to wait sucks when you are appart but we have all had to wait at some point.

And as for how many of the 39,000 were children, NONE. Children under 18 do not do an oath ceromony, they derive their citizenship from their parent.

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