Republican Party now glorifies Palin's daughter

[Marilyn. 340]

to be fair, even the best parents aren't perfect...

[Chica Yeyé 41]

to be fair, even the best parents aren't perfect...

Mine are

[IAMX 3,055]

to be fair, even the best parents aren't perfect...

Well, there's lots of irony. She most likey grew up in an "abstinence" environment and proof is in the pudding as to how well that philosophy works in stopping pregnancies/unwanted pregnancies.

[Peikko 1,575]

Personalizing this and saying she's a bad mother is petty and not useful. Questioning the reaction of the party is fair game.

[Marilyn. 340]

Personalizing this and saying she's a bad mother is petty and not useful. Questioning the reaction of the party is fair game.

yeah I agree with that...

[Peikko 1,575]

Parents, sheesh

Edited September 5, 2008 by Madame Cleo

[AlHayatZween 2]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

[Jenn! 918]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Edited September 5, 2008 by Jenn!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Exactly.

The official line I'm hearing about this (from a right wing POV) is that it's about loving your children even when they make mistakes and supporting their decisions. The left wing POV (not shared by everyone, but I'm hearing it a lot) is that this pregnancy is shameful. Maybe Bristol should be banished to a nunnery?

It's a topsy turvy election when people I should agree with politically sound like the lecturing moral police.

[Peikko 1,575]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Exactly.

The official line I'm hearing about this (from a right wing POV) is that it's about loving your children even when they make mistakes and supporting their decisions. The left wing POV (not shared by everyone, but I'm hearing it a lot) is that this pregnancy is shameful. Maybe Bristol should be banished to a nunnery?

It's a topsy turvy election when people I should agree with politically sound like the lecturing moral police.

I don't think that is quite true. I think there are people who want to see the GOP or right wing or whatever it is flounder because they consider this a percieved moral hypocracy. However, I think Jenn is on the button. Although the right agenda is family values, no sex before marriage etc, the reality is that these are real people who have real families with all the problems that always entails. The truth is, that if you do make a mistake, make sure you can pay for it, financially as well as emotionally, because it's not up to the goverment to fix these mistakes once made. I think that's the reality.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Exactly.

The official line I'm hearing about this (from a right wing POV) is that it's about loving your children even when they make mistakes and supporting their decisions. The left wing POV (not shared by everyone, but I'm hearing it a lot) is that this pregnancy is shameful. Maybe Bristol should be banished to a nunnery?

It's a topsy turvy election when people I should agree with politically sound like the lecturing moral police.

I don't think that is quite true. I think there are people who want to see the GOP or right wing or whatever it is flounder because they consider this a percieved moral hypocracy. However, I think Jenn is on the button. Although the right agenda is family values, no sex before marriage etc, the reality is that these are real people who have real families with all the problems that always entails. The truth is, that if you do make a mistake, make sure you can pay for it, financially as well as emotionally, because it's not up to the goverment to fix these mistakes once made. I think that's the reality.

You're right - it's not everyone. But most of the people that are pushing it are Democrats.

And I think the point of attack on teenage pregnancy should be not every child is lucky enough to have a supportive family to help them through.

[GaryC 7]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Exactly.

The official line I'm hearing about this (from a right wing POV) is that it's about loving your children even when they make mistakes and supporting their decisions. The left wing POV (not shared by everyone, but I'm hearing it a lot) is that this pregnancy is shameful. Maybe Bristol should be banished to a nunnery?

It's a topsy turvy election when people I should agree with politically sound like the lecturing moral police.

I don't think that is quite true. I think there are people who want to see the GOP or right wing or whatever it is flounder because they consider this a percieved moral hypocracy. However, I think Jenn is on the button. Although the right agenda is family values, no sex before marriage etc, the reality is that these are real people who have real families with all the problems that always entails. The truth is, that if you do make a mistake, make sure you can pay for it, financially as well as emotionally, because it's not up to the goverment to fix these mistakes once made. I think that's the reality.

Right on!!

This is the main misunderstanding of what it means to be a republican. We strive to live by our morals but we are also human. We are human and sometimes don't live up to our goals. All people make mistakes regardless of our political stripe. The difference between us is how we react to the mistakes.

Edited September 5, 2008 by GaryC

[rclouse 0]

That's what gets me about the candidate is the hypocrisy.

"Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. My daughter got knocked up and she decided to keep the baby. You should leave her alone because it's a private matter. Now elect me so I can work to make sure the government invades your privacy and makes that decision for your daughter."

[symbiosis 0]

the daughter got knocked up by her boyfriend..i am glad she was not black, then the GOP been saying what a #######

i was totally thinking this when i read your post.

all i know is that i've worked in inner city public schools, where a high percentage of teenage girls find themselves pregnant.

how come none of them are praised for being brave or making a difficult decision or embarking on a difficult journey...? A model of the American family?

IMO it's not an issue of race, but of class. I don't think that most republicans care whether teenagers have babies as long as their tax dollars don't go towards raising them.

Exactly.

The official line I'm hearing about this (from a right wing POV) is that it's about loving your children even when they make mistakes and supporting their decisions. The left wing POV (not shared by everyone, but I'm hearing it a lot) is that this pregnancy is shameful. Maybe Bristol should be banished to a nunnery?

It's a topsy turvy election when people I should agree with politically sound like the lecturing moral police.

I don't think that is quite true. I think there are people who want to see the GOP or right wing or whatever it is flounder because they consider this a percieved moral hypocracy. However, I think Jenn is on the button. Although the right agenda is family values, no sex before marriage etc, the reality is that these are real people who have real families with all the problems that always entails. The truth is, that if you do make a mistake, make sure you can pay for it, financially as well as emotionally, because it's not up to the goverment to fix these mistakes once made. I think that's the reality.

Right on!!

This is the main misunderstanding of what it means to be a republican. We strive to live by our morals but we are also human. We are human and sometimes don't live up to our goals. All people make mistakes regardless of our political stripe. The difference between us is how we react to the mistakes.

You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But if the vast majority of teen pregnancies are in red states (all but three of the 25 states with highest rates of teen pregnancy are red states: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/6/145758/107) ...

then it only stands to reason that a good percentage of Republicans are taking the dole to pay for their babies.

Gary's logic fails again!

Edited September 5, 2008 by symbiosis

[Chica Yeyé 41]

That's what gets me about the candidate is the hypocrisy.

"Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. My daughter got knocked up and she decided to keep the baby. You should leave her alone because it's a private matter. Now elect me so I can work to make sure the government invades your privacy and makes that decision for your daughter."

Slowly but surely, rclouse is becoming one of my favorite VJers.

The hypocrisy is indeed what gets me.