'Poli-Migra': New Spanish Word for Police and ICE

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

Sure, its enough for me. Hence I don't have a problem with ICE doing its job. Get a grip brother peejay.

Like I stated: breaking immigration law is prone to what? Yes, deportation. Breaking additional laws? Jail time- with due process. Not that difficult to understand.

Now if you want to make that slope of yours more slippery, go ahead and play the fool. If you have some kind of ESP or actual statistics that point a smoking gun that these illegals are doing all that in their typewritten laundry list (blame the Mexican government all you want), then perhaps you'd not sound like a raving obsessive.

Again, I think we've covered some of the driving forces to emigrate here, legally or illegally. If these people had viable means of securing visas to come and vacation in Galveston, I'm sure they wouldn't need to come illegally.

Edited September 4, 2008 by maviwaro

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

now there is an oxymoron!

Again, Charles I'm not so sure why this is such a hard concept for you. All illegals aren't crazed lunatics out there committing crime after crime. I don't know why I'm even getting into this again. The only crime committed by some is coming here illegally. Yeah, so they broke one law. But, if after getting here they don't commit anymore, I'd say that classifies them as pretty law abiding. But, you know, you probably have that attitude, once a cheater always a cheater and won't give anyone the benefit of the doubt. Heaven forbid we actually give someone a second chance.

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they have a chance right now all they have to do is leave, file the paperwork, get in line & come back the legal way with one of those thingys...oh whats that thing called.....oh yah a visa. i think there is a website or two out there that can help them along the legal path to being & working here legally.

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

Sure, its enough for me. Hence I don't have a problem with ICE doing its job. Get a grip brother peejay.

Like I stated: breaking immigration law is prone to what? Yes, deportation. Breaking additional laws? Jail time- with due process. Not that difficult to understand.

Now if you want to make that slope of yours more slippery, go ahead and play the fool. If you have some kind of ESP or actual statistics that point a smoking gun that these illegals are doing all that in their typewritten laundry list (blame the Mexican government all you want), then perhaps you'd not sound like a raving obsessive.

Again, I think we've covered some of the driving forces to emigrate here, legally or illegally. If these people had viable means of securing visas to come and vacation in Galveston, I'm sure they wouldn't need to come illegally.

Last I heard...US immigration is a priviledge, not a right. Ditto for the granting of visas to lawfully enter our country. The USA is under no obligation to grant anyone and everyone a viable means to immigrate or to obtain a visa on demand. About on par with the same practices exercised by most every civilized country in the world. In other words, countries have a sovereign right to regulate who enters their country and for what purpose.

On what basis do you conclude that illegal aliens have a right to break into another country that has not granted that priviledge? On what basis do you conclude that any nation is forced to take in foreign nationals against its will and in violation of its laws?

Edited September 4, 2008 by peejay

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they have a chance right now all they have to do is leave, file the paperwork, get in line & come back the legal way with one of those thingys...oh whats that thing called.....oh yah a visa. i think there is a website or two out there that can help them along the legal path to being & working here legally.

Reverse roles for a minute. You live in country X south of the border. You have virtually no opportunities at home while there is a rich class that benefits from business deals with profit makers in El Norte.

You get a shot at applying for a visa... and you get denied. I wonder why.

So what do you do? You cross the border however way you can. Your family needs to eat.

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

Sure, its enough for me. Hence I don't have a problem with ICE doing its job. Get a grip brother peejay.

Like I stated: breaking immigration law is prone to what? Yes, deportation. Breaking additional laws? Jail time- with due process. Not that difficult to understand.

Now if you want to make that slope of yours more slippery, go ahead and play the fool. If you have some kind of ESP or actual statistics that point a smoking gun that these illegals are doing all that in their typewritten laundry list (blame the Mexican government all you want), then perhaps you'd not sound like a raving obsessive.

Again, I think we've covered some of the driving forces to emigrate here, legally or illegally. If these people had viable means of securing visas to come and vacation in Galveston, I'm sure they wouldn't need to come illegally.

Last I heard...US immigration is a priviledge, not a right. Ditto for the granting of visas to lawfully enter our country. The USA is under no obligation to grant anyone and everyone a viable means to immigrate or to obtain a visa on demand. About on par with the same practices exercised by most every civilized country in the world. In other words, countries have a sovereign right to regulate who enters their country and for what purpose.

On what basis do you conclude that illegal aliens have a right to break into another country that has not granted that priviledge? On what basis do you conclude that any nation is forced to take in foreign nationals against its will and in violation of its laws?

Sure, countires can write all the laws they want- and I am not debating that with you, am I? Stay on topic.

I do not argue there is a right to go anywhere illegally. Get a grip.

People will do what they need to do to survive. That is perhaps something most of us here do not need to worry about beyond our creature comforts... and its perhaps something that needs to be reminded so that folks like you better understand the situation of what it means to be human.

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Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking.

This is true. Illegal behavior always starts somewhere. Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, was once a persistent litterer and jaywalker.

[peejay 327]

Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

Sure, its enough for me. Hence I don't have a problem with ICE doing its job. Get a grip brother peejay.

Like I stated: breaking immigration law is prone to what? Yes, deportation. Breaking additional laws? Jail time- with due process. Not that difficult to understand.

Now if you want to make that slope of yours more slippery, go ahead and play the fool. If you have some kind of ESP or actual statistics that point a smoking gun that these illegals are doing all that in their typewritten laundry list (blame the Mexican government all you want), then perhaps you'd not sound like a raving obsessive.

Again, I think we've covered some of the driving forces to emigrate here, legally or illegally. If these people had viable means of securing visas to come and vacation in Galveston, I'm sure they wouldn't need to come illegally.

Last I heard...US immigration is a priviledge, not a right. Ditto for the granting of visas to lawfully enter our country. The USA is under no obligation to grant anyone and everyone a viable means to immigrate or to obtain a visa on demand. About on par with the same practices exercised by most every civilized country in the world. In other words, countries have a sovereign right to regulate who enters their country and for what purpose.

On what basis do you conclude that illegal aliens have a right to break into another country that has not granted that priviledge? On what basis do you conclude that any nation is forced to take in foreign nationals against its will and in violation of its laws?

Sure, countires can write all the laws they want- and I am not debating that with you, am I? Stay on topic.

I do not argue there is a right to go anywhere illegally. Get a grip.

People will do what they need to do to survive. That is perhaps something most of us here do not need to worry about beyond our creature comforts... and its perhaps something that needs to be reminded so that folks like you better understand the situation of what it means to be human.

Yeah...there are 6 billion humans in the world and the vast majority of them live in poverty. There will be 9 billion of them by mid 21st century (2050). I don't buy into the misery loves company scenario that it is the obligation of the USA to save the world and take them all in. That is not the answer and you know it. We could take in 8, 10, or 12 times more immigrants and it won't even put even a small dent in the problem.

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they have a chance right now all they have to do is leave, file the paperwork, get in line & come back the legal way with one of those thingys...oh whats that thing called.....oh yah a visa. i think there is a website or two out there that can help them along the legal path to being & working here legally.

Reverse roles for a minute. You live in country X south of the border. You have virtually no opportunities at home while there is a rich class that benefits from business deals with profit makers in El Norte.

You get a shot at applying for a visa... and you get denied. I wonder why.

So what do you do? You cross the border however way you can. Your family needs to eat.

i don't need to reverse the rolls i'm a US citizen. its not the fault of the US citizen, that companies make a profit. nor should you keep trying your 'humanitarian' guilt trip. don't even try that denied BS either. there are several members of VJ that were at one time here illegally or their spouse was. but, being law abiding people either willingly or forcefully (deportation) have followed the law & are here legally now.

[peejay 327]

Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking.

This is true. Illegal behavior always starts somewhere. Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, was once a persistent litterer and jaywalker.

He was probably a sarcastic smartass too.

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Unless the facts escape the brain dead, these people are basicly stating that commiting state and local crimes are irrelevant to the fact that they are in the USA illegally. In Houston we had offenders that had multiple DWI's that were released again and again even though the cops knew these people were illegal aliens, but sanctuary policy forbid our police from notifying ICE so they could be removed from our communities and deported. It took the murder of a Houston police officer by a previously deported illegal alien child molester driving without a license to finally get the outrage directed at City Hall to get this insanity stopped. The Houston cops are still forbidden to notify ICE of illegal aliens they encounter in their duties, but are not in their custody.

These people believe that illegal alien criminals should be treated just like any US citizen that commits the same crime. They do not want ICE inside the state and local jails, but cannot bar them from being there. They just implement a policy that their local police officers are forbidden from cooperating with ICE by reporting that they have illegal aliens in custody in their jails.

This is what a sancuary city is all about. If you disagree with this policy in your state, county, or city...raise holy hell with the elected officials that put this stupidness in place.

And it probably escapes you that not all illegal aliens are committing additional crimes.

So what? Isn't commiting federal crimes enough for you?

It's about like when that fool Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) gets on national TV and talks about the "law abiding illegal immigrants" he so loves. Bullshit! Illegal entry and illegal presence is just the tip of the iceberg. Then it progresses to fraud, identity theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc., etc.

So what if they don't rob banks too. Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking. These people don't come here just to vacation at the beach. Let's get real and honest about what is going on here.

Sure, its enough for me. Hence I don't have a problem with ICE doing its job. Get a grip brother peejay.

Like I stated: breaking immigration law is prone to what? Yes, deportation. Breaking additional laws? Jail time- with due process. Not that difficult to understand.

Now if you want to make that slope of yours more slippery, go ahead and play the fool. If you have some kind of ESP or actual statistics that point a smoking gun that these illegals are doing all that in their typewritten laundry list (blame the Mexican government all you want), then perhaps you'd not sound like a raving obsessive.

Again, I think we've covered some of the driving forces to emigrate here, legally or illegally. If these people had viable means of securing visas to come and vacation in Galveston, I'm sure they wouldn't need to come illegally.

Last I heard...US immigration is a priviledge, not a right. Ditto for the granting of visas to lawfully enter our country. The USA is under no obligation to grant anyone and everyone a viable means to immigrate or to obtain a visa on demand. About on par with the same practices exercised by most every civilized country in the world. In other words, countries have a sovereign right to regulate who enters their country and for what purpose.

On what basis do you conclude that illegal aliens have a right to break into another country that has not granted that priviledge? On what basis do you conclude that any nation is forced to take in foreign nationals against its will and in violation of its laws?

Sure, countires can write all the laws they want- and I am not debating that with you, am I? Stay on topic.

I do not argue there is a right to go anywhere illegally. Get a grip.

People will do what they need to do to survive. That is perhaps something most of us here do not need to worry about beyond our creature comforts... and its perhaps something that needs to be reminded so that folks like you better understand the situation of what it means to be human.

Yeah...there are 6 billion humans in the world and the vast majority of them live in poverty. There will be 9 billion of them by mid 21st century (2050). I don't buy into the misery loves company scenario that it is the obligation of the USA to save the world and take them all in. That is not the answer and you know it. We could take in 8, 10, or 12 times more immigrants and it won't even put even a small dent in the problem.

Sure I know you don't buy that- you 've said it as a knee jerk about 25 times already over the last few months. And I always reply- we're not asking the USA to be the world's savior.

Nor am I arguing in favor of opening our borders... so perhaps a new knee jerk reaction would be in order for you??

As I have also stated quite repetively... its the 'teach a man to fish' analogy.

Invest a FRACTION (of what we spend in creating walls around our nation) in these nations' infrastructure: read- programs to help these nations pull their poor up by their own bootstraps. And guess what that does peejay? Oh yeah! It REDUCES all those billions of people wanting to come and eat your pie.

Go figure.

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they have a chance right now all they have to do is leave, file the paperwork, get in line & come back the legal way with one of those thingys...oh whats that thing called.....oh yah a visa. i think there is a website or two out there that can help them along the legal path to being & working here legally.

Reverse roles for a minute. You live in country X south of the border. You have virtually no opportunities at home while there is a rich class that benefits from business deals with profit makers in El Norte.

You get a shot at applying for a visa... and you get denied. I wonder why.

So what do you do? You cross the border however way you can. Your family needs to eat.

so you're saying everyone south of the border thinks like this?

Illegal entry is the beginning of a laundry list of additional lawbreaking.

This is true. Illegal behavior always starts somewhere. Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, was once a persistent litterer and jaywalker.

got a link for that?

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so you're saying everyone south of the border thinks like this?

No. Be honest. What would YOU do?

[Ban Hammer 14,291]

Invest a FRACTION (of what we spend in creating walls around our nation) in these nations' infrastructure: read- programs to help these nations pull their poor up by their own bootstraps. And guess what that does peejay? Oh yeah! It REDUCES all those billions of people wanting to come and eat your pie.

Go figure.

so you must have a link for that, right?

so you're saying everyone south of the border thinks like this?

No. Be honest. What would YOU do?

if i were honest, i'd work inside my country.

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Invest a FRACTION (of what we spend in creating walls around our nation) in these nations' infrastructure: read- programs to help these nations pull their poor up by their own bootstraps. And guess what that does peejay? Oh yeah! It REDUCES all those billions of people wanting to come and eat your pie.

Go figure.

so you must have a link for that, right?

I think the commonsense.com URL is already taken.