Radical Ties and Hate Speech in the Immigration Debate

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Radical Ties and Hate Speech in the Immigration Debate

Ira Mehlman

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Ever since the defeat of a bill in the Senate last year that would have granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, there have been repeated accusations that some of the principal players in the debate have received money from dubious sources, have ties to shady political figures, and deliberately use intemperate language to whip up fears and play on prejudices.

It turns out that these accusations are all true…but it is not the groups and political figures who oppose amnesty who are guilty. Rather, some of the leading organizations and politicians promoting mass amnesty for illegal aliens have been engaging in all of these practices.

Among the network of organizations that have not only been promoting amnesty for illegal aliens, but actively working to thwart enforcement of U.S. immigration laws, few have been as effective as CASA de Maryland. CASA not only lobbies on behalf of complete amnesty for immigration law violators, it operates day labor hiring centers around Maryland specifically geared toward helping illegal aliens find jobs that federal law prohibits them from holding. The group has published and distributed material advising people not to cooperate with law enforcement officials if questioned about their immigration status.

In spite of its rather radical agenda, CASA has actively sought – and achieved – the mantle of mainstream respectability. Among the group’s board of directors is a member of the Maryland House of Delegates, and CASA has received millions of dollars in public support. According to Kim Propeack, a spokeswoman for CASA, 45 percent of the organization’s $6.3 million 2009 budget is expected to come from state and county governments.

While continuing to benefit from huge amounts of money from state, county and city governments in Maryland, CASA has become the darling of one of America’s most bitter adversaries. Early this month, CASA de Maryland, received a $1.5 million grant from Hugo Chavez, the avowedly anti-American president of Venezuela. Last year, CASA’s executive director Gustavo Torres, at the invitation of Chavez’s government, visited Venezuela to lecture on “youth leadership.”

Chavez has been using Venezuela’s oil wealth to spread his unique brand of revolution and hatred of the United States throughout the world, and the money he is spending in Maryland is likely to come with political strings attached. “He [Chavez] is committed to creating this constituency in the United States,” says Michael Shifter, vice president for policy at the Inter-American Dialogue.

While Hugo Chavez was dropping large sums of cash into the illegal alien amnesty effort, at least one of the allegedly mainstream political figures promoting the cause was doing his part for the cause by dropping rhetorical bombs. Representative Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) explicitly compared U.S. enforcement of its immigration laws to the policies of Nazi Germany, and U.S. law enforcement to the Gestapo. Commenting on recent stepped-up raids by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency (a division of the Department of Homeland Security), Congressman Gutierrez asked rhetorically, “You know who is in charge now? The Gestapo agents at Homeland Security. They are in charge.”

Gutierrez, along with much of the pro-amnesty lobby, has been on a crusade to muzzle critics of illegal immigration. They routinely claim that any criticism of illegal immigration, any intimation that illegal aliens create problems or burdens for American society, stigmatizes all Hispanics in the United States (deliberately blurring the distinction between people of a certain ethnic group and immigration law-breakers) and, in their estimation, exacerbates social tensions if not outright hatred.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, of which Gutierrez is a prominent member, went so far as to urge media self-censorship on the issue of immigration. Earlier this year, 20 members of the caucus signed a letter to the top brass at Time-Warner, the parent company of CNN, urging them to silence some of their own journalists. (Their pleas were ignored.) Other pro-amnesty activist groups have orchestrated a campaign to have nearly all of the leading immigration enforcement spokespeople banned from the airwaves and the mainstream print media under the pretext that they use “code words” to promote hatred and intolerance.

While one would require a Rosetta stone to ferret out to the “codes” allegedly being transmitted by those supporting enforcement of U.S. immigration laws, comparisons between ICE and the Gestapo do not require anyone to read between the lines. The vile description of ICE – by a member of the U.S. House of Representatives – is clearly designed to evoke fear and hatred, delegitimize the immigration policies of the United States, and promote resistance to U.S. immigration enforcement officers.

Clearly association with unsavory characters, dubious financing, and intemperate language have been injected into the national debate about immigration policy. In an effort to promote their policies, some of those in favor of amnesty and open borders are consorting with and accepting money from avowed enemies of the United States and poisoning the debate by employing the most reprehensible language imaginable.

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not the least bit surprising.

[pedroh 21]

Radical Ties and Hate Speech in the Immigration Debate

Ira Mehlman

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Ever since the defeat of a bill in the Senate last year that would have granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, there have been repeated accusations that some of the principal players in the debate have received money from dubious sources, have ties to shady political figures, and deliberately use intemperate language to whip up fears and play on prejudices.

It turns out that these accusations are all true…but it is not the groups and political figures who oppose amnesty who are guilty. Rather, some of the leading organizations and politicians promoting mass amnesty for illegal aliens have been engaging in all of these practices.

Among the network of organizations that have not only been promoting amnesty for illegal aliens, but actively working to thwart enforcement of U.S. immigration laws, few have been as effective as CASA de Maryland. CASA not only lobbies on behalf of complete amnesty for immigration law violators, it operates day labor hiring centers around Maryland specifically geared toward helping illegal aliens find jobs that federal law prohibits them from holding. The group has published and distributed material advising people not to cooperate with law enforcement officials if questioned about their immigration status.

In spite of its rather radical agenda, CASA has actively sought – and achieved – the mantle of mainstream respectability. Among the group’s board of directors is a member of the Maryland House of Delegates, and CASA has received millions of dollars in public support. According to Kim Propeack, a spokeswoman for CASA, 45 percent of the organization’s $6.3 million 2009 budget is expected to come from state and county governments.

While continuing to benefit from huge amounts of money from state, county and city governments in Maryland, CASA has become the darling of one of America’s most bitter adversaries. Early this month, CASA de Maryland, received a $1.5 million grant from Hugo Chavez, the avowedly anti-American president of Venezuela. Last year, CASA’s executive director Gustavo Torres, at the invitation of Chavez’s government, visited Venezuela to lecture on “youth leadership.”

Chavez has been using Venezuela’s oil wealth to spread his unique brand of revolution and hatred of the United States throughout the world, and the money he is spending in Maryland is likely to come with political strings attached. “He [Chavez] is committed to creating this constituency in the United States,” says Michael Shifter, vice president for policy at the Inter-American Dialogue.

While Hugo Chavez was dropping large sums of cash into the illegal alien amnesty effort, at least one of the allegedly mainstream political figures promoting the cause was doing his part for the cause by dropping rhetorical bombs. Representative Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) explicitly compared U.S. enforcement of its immigration laws to the policies of Nazi Germany, and U.S. law enforcement to the Gestapo. Commenting on recent stepped-up raids by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency (a division of the Department of Homeland Security), Congressman Gutierrez asked rhetorically, “You know who is in charge now? The Gestapo agents at Homeland Security. They are in charge.”

Gutierrez, along with much of the pro-amnesty lobby, has been on a crusade to muzzle critics of illegal immigration. They routinely claim that any criticism of illegal immigration, any intimation that illegal aliens create problems or burdens for American society, stigmatizes all Hispanics in the United States (deliberately blurring the distinction between people of a certain ethnic group and immigration law-breakers) and, in their estimation, exacerbates social tensions if not outright hatred.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus, of which Gutierrez is a prominent member, went so far as to urge media self-censorship on the issue of immigration. Earlier this year, 20 members of the caucus signed a letter to the top brass at Time-Warner, the parent company of CNN, urging them to silence some of their own journalists. (Their pleas were ignored.) Other pro-amnesty activist groups have orchestrated a campaign to have nearly all of the leading immigration enforcement spokespeople banned from the airwaves and the mainstream print media under the pretext that they use “code words” to promote hatred and intolerance.

While one would require a Rosetta stone to ferret out to the “codes” allegedly being transmitted by those supporting enforcement of U.S. immigration laws, comparisons between ICE and the Gestapo do not require anyone to read between the lines. The vile description of ICE – by a member of the U.S. House of Representatives – is clearly designed to evoke fear and hatred, delegitimize the immigration policies of the United States, and promote resistance to U.S. immigration enforcement officers.

Clearly association with unsavory characters, dubious financing, and intemperate language have been injected into the national debate about immigration policy. In an effort to promote their policies, some of those in favor of amnesty and open borders are consorting with and accepting money from avowed enemies of the United States and poisoning the debate by employing the most reprehensible language imaginable.

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like it or not, that is true.. you can't criticize the illegals without the majority group they belong to to say 'oh yea its ok, talk about them'.. make an illegal immig rally, and not only illegals will attend.. but also the ethnic group they belong to.. it's a fact that people have to accept, like it or not..

and ICE raids, are not the most humanitarian procedures either, so they're not angels from heaven enforcing US laws.. there has been several episodes of ICE raiding places without warrants, arresting people who happen to have 'latino last names' (it has happened in the last raids, arresting people that live in the same neighborhoods as the illegals, and not even a i'm sorry).. making illegals sign paperwork without a translator..

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like it or not, that is true.. you can't criticize the illegals without the majority group they belong to to say 'oh yea its ok, talk about them'.. make an illegal immig rally, and not only illegals will attend.. but also the ethnic group they belong to.. it's a fact that people have to accept, like it or not..

and ICE raids, are not the most humanitarian procedures either, so they're not angels from heaven enforcing US laws.. there has been several episodes of ICE raiding places without warrants, arresting people who happen to have 'latino last names' (it has happened in the last raids, arresting people that live in the same neighborhoods as the illegals, and not even a i'm sorry).. making illegals sign paperwork without a translator..

It's not ICE's fault that 80+% of illegal aliens are from Mexico and Latin America. Their job is to enforce immigration and work authorization laws...period. They arrest all immigration violators regardless of nationality and ethnicity. So what if most immigration violators are Hispanic.

As for the second part of your post...cough up verifiable proof of ICE ignoring and violating the law and failing to adhere to mandated policy proceedures. Not charges, but proof along with the response once these charges were proven in court.

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Mancha vs Ice -raiding a neighborhood without warrants

legal docu here

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san francisco raid

"Indeed, many of the warrants that I.C.E officers had in their raid in San Rafael were for people who no longer lived at the residences they raided, thus I.C.E officers entering the homes and questioning the new residents about their legal status was as illegal as someone raising a family and working a job without a VISA"

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Van Nuys Ca Raid complaint

"The National Lawyers Guild and a person arrested during an ICE raid filed a suit to challenge DHS' denial of access to counsel at immigration interviews following a raid at a factory in Van Nuys, California. According to the complaint, over 100 residents of Los Angeles County were arrested at the factory raid on February 7, 2008. Many of the individuals were released and scheduled for follow up interviews. A group of lawyers with the National Lawyers Guild offered free legal assistance to those who were arrested, but ICE barred the lawyers from being present at the interviews. The complaint alleges that the deprivation of counsel violates section 555(B) of Administrative Procedure Act, the INA and its regulation (8 C.F.R. § 292.5), and due process under the Fifth Amendment"

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Seven Year-Old Boy Sues ICE After Raid of his Home

Reyes v. Alcantar, No. 07-02271 (N.D. Cal., filed Apr. 26, 2007)

Plaintiff Kebin Reyes, a United States citizen, filed suit by and through his guardian ad litem and father, Noe Reyes, alleging violations of his Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures, limitations set forth in 8 U.S.C. § 1357 (governing powers of immigration officers), and his Fifth Amendment due process rights. Reyes claims that these violations took place when ICE agents entered his home, took him into custody without a warrant for his arrest, and forced him to remain in custody for approximately 12 hours. Reyes seeks compensatory and punitive damages. He also is pursuing a claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act and will amend his complaint to seek monetary damages from the government if his claim is denied. On April 26, 2007, the court ordered the action to be assigned to the Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) Multi-Option Program governed by ADR Local Rule 3. On November 19, 2007, Reyes filed an amended complaint and on January 15, 2008, the government filed an answer. The court scheduled a settlement conference for March 7, 2008.

On June 25, 2008, the court approved the parties' settlement agreement. As part of the settlement, the government will pay plaintiff $30,000. In addition, the agreement provides that if Kebin Reyes' father, Noe Reyes, has a final removal order entered against him, he will granted deferred status subject to biennial reviews of extension.

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Damages Suit Alleges 4th and 5th Amendment Violations During Raids

Argueta v. Myers, 08-1652 (D.N.J. filed April 3, 2008)

Ten individuals, including US citizens, LPRs and other noncitizens, are suing USICE employees and local police for 4th and 5th Amendment violations that they allege occurred during home raids in New Jersey. The plaintiffs bring their damages claims under Bivens (federal employee defendants) and 42 U.S.C. § 1983 and the New Jersey Constitution (local police defendants). The plaintiffs allege, inter alia, that the defendants entered their homes without valid warrants, consent, or other exigent circumstances or probable cause and that the defendants used excessive force, such as pointing guns at them and pushing down doors with their weapons. According to the complaint, the pre-dawn raids are part of ICE's "Operation Return to Sender," which supposedly is intended to arrest individuals with old deportation orders, but has extended far beyond its stated goals.

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oh but of course, its from the SPLC.. they're part of the illegal cheerleading squad right

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PWNED!

[peejay 327]

oh but of course, its from the SPLC.. they're part of the illegal cheerleading squad right

Anybody can sue anybody in the USA for anything. Lawsuit does not equal proof. It is legal maneuvering. Throwing around legal papers to slow down or circumvent enforcement of the laws is a tactic similar groups use to circumvent laws they don't like. In this case illegal immigration and workplace authorization verification laws. No surprises there.

Yes...SPLC while it once was a civil rights organization has turned into an open borders advocacy group and illegal alien cheerleader squad. Their mission is to actively deter any attempt to enforce immigration and workplace verification laws to further their political agenda.

Dig deeper and they also advocate mass illegal alien amnesty with a pathway to citizenship (aka: eventual voting rights for illegal aliens). Lovely! Who needs borders anyway?

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oh but of course, its from the SPLC.. they're part of the illegal cheerleading squad right

Anybody can sue anybody in the USA for anything. Lawsuit does not equal proof. It is legal maneuvering. Throwing around legal papers to slow down or circumvent enforcement of the laws is a tactic similar groups use to circumvent laws they don't like. In this case illegal immigration and workplace authorization verification laws. No surprises there.

Yes...SPLC while it once was a civil rights organization has turned into an open borders advocacy group and illegal alien cheerleader squad. Their mission is to actively deter any attempt to enforce immigration and workplace verification laws to further their political agenda.

Dig deeper and they also advocate mass illegal alien amnesty with a pathway to citizenship (aka: eventual voting rights for illegal aliens). Lovely! Who needs borders anyway?

so.. are those no warrant ICE cases fake?

there were even settlements for it.. I don't think ICE would give a settlement for a fake statement

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Dude...

[peejay 327]

oh but of course, its from the SPLC.. they're part of the illegal cheerleading squad right

Anybody can sue anybody in the USA for anything. Lawsuit does not equal proof. It is legal maneuvering. Throwing around legal papers to slow down or circumvent enforcement of the laws is a tactic similar groups use to circumvent laws they don't like. In this case illegal immigration and workplace authorization verification laws. No surprises there.

Yes...SPLC while it once was a civil rights organization has turned into an open borders advocacy group and illegal alien cheerleader squad. Their mission is to actively deter any attempt to enforce immigration and workplace verification laws to further their political agenda.

Dig deeper and they also advocate mass illegal alien amnesty with a pathway to citizenship (aka: eventual voting rights for illegal aliens). Lovely! Who needs borders anyway?

so.. are those no warrant ICE cases fake?

there were even settlements for it.. I don't think ICE would give a settlement for a fake statement

One case? Don't think? Don't you know?

This constitutes an ongoing and systematic pattern that can be reasonably compared to the Gestapo? Oh, pleez! Out of millions of arrests and deportations? Double...oh, pleez!

Come on...bring on this mountain of proof. All you are doing (or attempting to do) is make an anthill into the Himalayas.

As I said...all this baloney is just an attempt to deter any enforcement actions against illegal immigration. In other words...any mistake big or small is reason to scrap any and all enforcement effort. Thats what the goal in this charade is all about.

Edited August 14, 2008 by peejay

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Prove it is an attempt to deter enforcement of the law. I believe I have read pedroh here state quite frankly that illegals need to leave and obey the law- at the least get with the program and legalize under the provisions of the law. Maybe I'm wrong.

I also believe I read pedroh state quite clearly that it isn't about enforcement, rather about abuse.

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if the policies and procedures were conducted in a regular way, I don't even think the latino organizations would have a fit about it, but yes.. ONE case is enough to review the procedures and make sure the illegals are deported in a timely and, mainly, a humane way.. the discourse of 'a little sacrifice' to enforce the laws is absurd in these times where any kind of abuse shouldn't be tolerated...

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if the policies and procedures were conducted in a regular way, I don't even think the latino organizations would have a fit about it, but yes.. ONE case is enough to review the procedures and make sure the illegals are deported in a timely and, mainly, a humane way.. the discourse of 'a little sacrifice' to enforce the laws is absurd in these times where any kind of abuse shouldn't be tolerated...

Well said.

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Prove it is an attempt to deter enforcement of the law. I believe I have read pedroh here state quite frankly that illegals need to leave and obey the law- at the least get with the program and legalize under the provisions of the law. Maybe I'm wrong.

I also believe I read pedroh state quite clearly that it isn't about enforcement, rather about abuse.

Bullshit! Just like LaRaza has demanded that all workplace enforcement actions cease until "comprehensive immigration reform" (AKA: blanket amnesty and permanent residency for illegal aliens) is passed. That is what this whole enchelada boils down to. You know it, he knows it, and most people with a lick of sense know it.

Nobody, least of all me, advocates abusing detainees or violating the law to arrest them. But arrests, detentions, and deportations should not be stopped to appease the ethnic groups that seem to believe they don't have to adhere to our long established immigration and work authorization laws.

Waiting to enforce the law until the current crop of violators gets amnesty #8 is total bullshit. It didn't work the other 7 times...why go there again and again? I think you and Pedroh know why. Because 80+% of illegal aliens are from Mexico and Latin America and...