Thanks to all for friend married to Egyptian man

[VictoriaUSA 0]

I gave my friend all the information. Unfortunately she was sad because it seems pretty clear that surrogacy is haram. However after talking to a few Muslims I know, I was told that haram comes in degrees, meaning that one sin is not necessarily the same as another. I'm sure hardliners (like the hardline Christians I know) would say a sin is a sin, but from what I've heard, if something is haram but it's not harming anyone, and one might ask God to understand in the day of judgement, it may still be possible for her husband to accomodate her desires.

Also, from what I've heard, most Muslims (at least men) have done haram acts, like watch pornography, or masturbate, or drink alcohol, especially from the more liberal Islamic countries (like Egypt, though I'm sure masturbation is done in even the strictest of societies and that's considered haram too). I hope I'm not offending anyone here by saying this; I'm mostly just reporting what was told to me.

I told her that she should not force the issue with her husband, but try to see if she can ease him into the idea soon. He's still new to all this medical technology even though he's been here for some time.

[Ban Hammer 12,861]

i'd be most interested in seeing what geg has to say on this topic.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I didn't know masturbation was haram? Even masturbation to your spouse?

What do u all do for that part of the marraige while seperated during this process?

[caybee 21]

I didn't know masturbation was haram? Even masturbation to your spouse?

What do u all do for that part of the marraige while seperated during this process?

I read that it is not haram in particular if it prevents you from being tempted to have sex outside of marriage, but I don't remember where I read that. Interested to hear some replies.

[tenderheartusa79 14]

I didn't know masturbation was haram? Even masturbation to your spouse?

What do u all do for that part of the marraige while seperated during this process?

I read that it is not haram in particular if it prevents you from being tempted to have sex outside of marriage, but I don't remember where I read that. Interested to hear some replies.

you are almost close

masturbation is haram and the prophet MUHAMMED (PBUH) says if you do the masturbate you will come in the day after with pregnant hands (which mean your hands will look like pregnant woman)

so its haram to do the masturbate all the time .

but f it prevents you from being tempted to have sex outside of marriage, its not haram (like if you are with a woman and if you are so close to have sex with her you can do the masturbate ) so its not haram in that case .

cause as you know guys its forbidden in Islam to have sex out of marriage .

maybe someone will ask me and say hmm what about if you want to have sex and you are not married or your wife live so far from you ? in that case you can just pray and fast .

the only case the masturbation is not haran when you are with a woman and you are so close to have sex with .

[~Jackie~ 30]

as I drink my instant coffee and do my laundry by hand............

jJ

hehehehe

[morocco4ever 63]

I didn't know masturbation was haram? Even masturbation to your spouse?

What do u all do for that part of the marraige while seperated during this process?

I read that it is not haram in particular if it prevents you from being tempted to have sex outside of marriage, but I don't remember where I read that. Interested to hear some replies.

I have heard the same, if it prevents you from being tempted to have sex outside of marriage it is forgiven. As far as with your spouse, you can do anything that is acceptable between the husband and wife as long as it is acceptable to both partners, and does not cross certain boundaries, ie sex with others than your spouse, #######....you get the drift. I am sure that this is all could cause debate between scholars however.

as I drink my instant coffee and do my laundry by hand............

jJ

hehehehe

Jackie face it, laundry has to be done, whats a girl to do?

Edited June 20, 2008 by morocco4ever