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on a way different level that don't warrant that...... :blink Maybe you read it harsher than I typed it. Perhaps next time I should include a smiley to indicate the semi-seriousness of my response. :innocent:

Sounds like Barack justifying his relationship with his pastor :bonk::P

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I would be more inclined to boycott states that DO allow offshore drilling. The problem isn't going to be solved by depleting more oil and gas supplies while we continue unabated our waste of existing resources. The problem will be resolved by finding and supporting alternative energy sources along with conservation of existing non-renewable resources. We seem so focused on instant gratification with immediate gain and long term pain, rather than behaving responsibly with short term pain and long term gain.

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I would be more inclined to boycott states that DO allow offshore drilling. The problem isn't going to be solved by depleting more oil and gas supplies while we continue unabated our waste of existing resources. The problem will be resolved by finding and supporting alternative energy sources along with conservation of existing non-renewable resources. We seem so focused on instant gratification with immediate gain and long term pain, rather than behaving responsibly with short term pain and long term gain.

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kathryn your being naive. :blush:

CHINA STARTS OIL DRILLING OFF FLORIDA

WHILE AMERICA TWIDDLES THUMBS, CHINESE TAP BILLIONS OF BARRELS

By Mike Blair

While Washington dithers over exploiting oil and gas reserves off the coast of Florida, China has seized the opportunity to gobble up these deposits, which run throughout Latin America, the Caribbean and along the U.S. Gulf coast.

The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West, Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making deals to sell his country’s oil to China, oil that is currently coming to the United States.

Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United States.

SLANT DRILLING

There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels. This compares with 4 billion to 10 billion barrels believed to be beneath the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, where drilling is held up in Congress due to the objections of environmental groups which warn of endangering caribou. Permission to drill in the refuge, which experts are certain will not present any environmental hazard, has failed by just two votes in the Senate.

As Chinese business increases its reach around the world, it is seeking oil, which it lacks domestically.

After elections in Mexico in early July, when a new regime hostile to Washington is expected to take power, the United States might be without supplies of Mexican crude oil. The United States gets about 40 percent of its imported oil from Mexico and Venezuela.

China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a massive port facility and airfield.

With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of Castro.

Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S. restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil drilling off the state’s coasts could also be eased.

The irony is that Chinese drilling could be even more of an environmental hazard since China is not as concerned about or equipped to deal with any potential ecological disaster as a result of a spill, said Craig.

(Issue #22, May 29, 2006)

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Drill that f*ing oil!

So you can pay 8.47 instead of 8.78 per gallon in 10 years? That's about the impact it would have. If that.

kathryn your being naive. :blush:

CHINA STARTS OIL DRILLING OFF FLORIDA

WHILE AMERICA TWIDDLES THUMBS, CHINESE TAP BILLIONS OF BARRELS

By Mike Blair

While Washington dithers over exploiting oil and gas reserves off the coast of Florida, China has seized the opportunity to gobble up these deposits, which run throughout Latin America, the Caribbean and along the U.S. Gulf coast.

The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West, Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making deals to sell his country’s oil to China, oil that is currently coming to the United States.

Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United States.

SLANT DRILLING

There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels. This compares with 4 billion to 10 billion barrels believed to be beneath the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, where drilling is held up in Congress due to the objections of environmental groups which warn of endangering caribou. Permission to drill in the refuge, which experts are certain will not present any environmental hazard, has failed by just two votes in the Senate.

As Chinese business increases its reach around the world, it is seeking oil, which it lacks domestically.

After elections in Mexico in early July, when a new regime hostile to Washington is expected to take power, the United States might be without supplies of Mexican crude oil. The United States gets about 40 percent of its imported oil from Mexico and Venezuela.

China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a massive port facility and airfield.

With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of Castro.

Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S. restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil drilling off the state’s coasts could also be eased.

The irony is that Chinese drilling could be even more of an environmental hazard since China is not as concerned about or equipped to deal with any potential ecological disaster as a result of a spill, said Craig.

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That article was recently debunked. It's nonsense.

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** Off!

:lol: Are we a little irritated today? :yes:

Not at all. You can vacation in Buttcrack, AL instead. Have fun! :thumbs:

** Off!

that's not nice :huh:

It may have escaped you but neither was the suggestion I responded to.

on a way different level that don't warrant that...... :blink:

Maybe you read it harsher than I typed it. Perhaps next time I should include a smiley to indicate the semi-seriousness of my response. :innocent:

you just need some bitburger. :thumbs:

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I'm all for supporting alternative energy research but if you really look at how much energy is being currently generated with fossil fuels/hydro/nuclear, the alternatives aren't even a drop in the bucket. Back in the mid 90s, I worked with gas-well tuning and O&M at a small landfill gas plant which was designed to produce around 4MW. Compare that with each unit at a fossil fuel plant which produce around 300MW-600MW. Those power plants usually operate several of those units at any time depending on their maintenance schedules. I hope the people who say we should move on to alternative sources of energy realize how far we are from making that a reality. It might not be possible, but if a majority of voters actually became informed, we might actually start solving some of our problems by electing honest, intelligent politicians,,can't believe I just said that.

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Back in the mid 90s, I worked with gas-well tuning and O&M at a small landfill gas plant which was designed to produce around 4MW. Compare that with each unit at a fossil fuel plant which produce around 300MW-600MW. Those power plants usually operate several of those units at any time depending on their maintenance schedules. I hope the people who say we should move on to alternative sources of energy realize how far we are from making that a reality.

They don't care because they want to return to a simpler, pre-industrial age. Global warming and rampant consumerism are evil so most liberals want the country to ditch their cars and begin growing organic gardens.

The big lie is we have huge magical sources of clean energy without any downsides. Even solar panels and windmills need to be built with some power source.

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With oil/gas prices continuing to climb, should pressure be put on states like Florida and California by boycotting their tourism industry until they allow offshore drilling?

You are a damn idiot!!!! What do you want to do, wait another 10 years and be worse off than we are now? Get a life u Obama freak!!!

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Drill that f*ing oil!

So you can pay 8.47 instead of 8.78 per gallon in 10 years? That's about the impact it would have. If that.

No... so that the big oil companies can't use supply and demand anymore

With the relatively little supply there is and the nonexistent extra refinery capacity, you are sure to continue to hear the very same song. Drilling off the shores isn't going to change the supply / demand to any significant degree. The side that the oil companies do not control is the demand side. That's where you get under their skin. Conserve, conserve, conserve. Anything else is futile.

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