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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Algeria
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Bassi and Zainab : Doing it for their families? Reason being shame and more dangerously 'honor killings' But I wonder since I have not heard of such instances where there was much honor killing in NA ... why was it so important for this particular girl of NA descent to lie? Why can't they just stand out of that shadow once in Europe?

Uh, yeah......they don't want to shame their families and a couple of the women in the article were returning home to be married to men who believed they were virgins.

Well me, thinking these woman were in Europe (not back home) why still stand in that shadow? Wouldn't being in Europe or US give you more power to stand up against this? Maybe I am completely blind ... but women are viewed way different in the West then these countries where women are 'forced' into this.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ghana
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Allah Akbar! What a messed up religion. :crying:

This is not religious! The article very clearly says those women were not even practicing muslims! If they were practicing they wouldn't be spreading them wide like those they are immitating :)

What about the western women that are also doing it? They are not in any way related to islam. It's not about their religion.

For them, as I and several other said a designer cosmetic operation (like breast implants) or for some reconstructive ... I wonder how this operation could (or is) be used with rape/incest victims? Esp little children?

I can't think of a medical reason why it should be used. If it's purely psychological, I don't think it's a good idea, especially on children. It's like being raped all over again. Like something is wrong with you that needs to be "fixed".

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ghana
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Bassi and Zainab : Doing it for their families? Reason being shame and more dangerously 'honor killings' But I wonder since I have not heard of such instances where there was much honor killing in NA ... why was it so important for this particular girl of NA descent to lie? Why can't they just stand out of that shadow once in Europe?

Uh, yeah......they don't want to shame their families and a couple of the women in the article were returning home to be married to men who believed they were virgins.

Well me, thinking these woman were in Europe (not back home) why still stand in that shadow? Wouldn't being in Europe or US give you more power to stand up against this? Maybe I am completely blind ... but women are viewed way different in the West then these countries where women are 'forced' into this.

Being in Europe and "free" is probably why they had sexual relations outside of marriage, then they have to deal with the consequences after the euphoria of being in love wears off. The reality is your upbringing and culture always play a part in your life and how you make decisions, no matter where you live.

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I-129F Sent: 6-18-2007

Interview date: 6-24-2008

Pick up Visa: 6-27-2008

Arrive JFK POE: 7-2-2008

Marriage: 7-9-2008

AOS

mailed AOS, EAD, AP: 8-22-2008

NOA AOS, EAD, AP: 8-27-2008

Biometrics: 9-18-2008

AOS Transferred to CSC: 9-25-2008

Requested EAD Expedite: 11-12-2008

EAD Card production ordered: 11-12-2008 changed to 11/17/2008 Why? (I hope it doesn't change every week!)

Received AP: 11/17/2008

Received EAD: 11/22/08 (Praise God!!)

AOS RFE: 1/29/2009

AOS Approved: 3/24/2009

Called USCIS 4/1/2009 told no status change and case not yet reviewed from RFE request.

Received green card: 4/3/2009

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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Olivia : I remember in the that same 20/20 documentary in the 1990s they showed 40 year old women opting for this surgery in the US and Australia to be virgins again for their husbands. Something I just find so lame.

I remember also, seeing that Dr. 2010 show. Didn't the woman have 3 children, and wasn't her ####### area during her last birth damaged extremely ... to the point it was almost detacted from her? And causing her pain and disfuntion? If I remember correctly, then I guess her reasoning for wanting the labiaplasty operation was more legit then these "fake virgins" Labiaplasty... surprises me too, having it done for medical reasons is valid I guess. But for cosmetic reasons? Maybe people just have too much money to spend? But the larger issue is, isn't this further enforcing more stereotypes about women and their bodies? And how much of this does the porn industry play into this?

Yes that womans ####### was nearly detached. She said over and over again that not only was it uncomfortable it made her feel disgusting. I am inclined to agree with you that her labiaplasty is more practical then the other designer #######'s. I don't know how much the porn industry plays into it but I do believe body image is something that plastic surgeons have to consider. They are in an aesthetic profession, and where else are women going to get their ideas for the type of #######'s they want besides the porn mags? The question though is indeterminable as to where it starts. Did the woman get the idea from natural discomfort? Did the women get the idea from a comment a lover made once many years ago? Did the woman get the idea from looking at aesthetically pleasing images of women? Did the woman get the idea from seeing other ladies in the locker room who go to the gyms in California? It's no surprise that looking good in that region is a priority. Did the women get the idea from knowing men buy these porn mags and are sexually pleased with the images, so she wants to please her husband for approval by looking like that because of some childhood issue with her father. LOL!

As for the hymenoplasty that is a whole other ball of wax.

This is also happening in the US and is being coined as "designer #######'s".

Wow... along with Gap Jeans, Prada shoes, and a nice manicure every now and then... this is just yet another designer item, i wouldn't be able to afford.

besides,

i thought if you abstained for 7 years, it grew back?

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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I can't think of a medical reason why it should be used. If it's purely psychological, I don't think it's a good idea, especially on children. It's like being raped all over again. Like something is wrong with you that needs to be "fixed".

Are you kidding, who wouldn't want to be raped all over again?

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if it looks disgusting get that stuff fixed!

I don't understand the whole hymen thing because people can break it in a number of ways. Also, there isn't always bleeding. How will the husband really know for sure?

Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.

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if it looks disgusting get that stuff fixed!

I don't understand the whole hymen thing because people can break it in a number of ways. Also, there isn't always bleeding. How will the husband really know for sure?

He doesn't need to know 'for sure'. Mere suspicion/paranoia is enough.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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I can't think of a medical reason why it should be used. If it's purely psychological, I don't think it's a good idea, especially on children. It's like being raped all over again. Like something is wrong with you that needs to be "fixed".

Are you kidding, who wouldn't want to be raped all over again?

:lol: what? bizarre!

when did we start talking about rape?

Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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Allah Akbar! What a messed up religion. :crying:

This is not religious! The article very clearly says those women were not even practicing muslims! If they were practicing they wouldn't be spreading them wide like those they are immitating :)

While the article says they are not practicing Muslims it implies their religion is Islam. I do think the article is pushing that this a phenomena just among NA women which it is not. However, as many conversations have gone in MENA the men may come here and become westernized but once they go back to their MENA countries they so readily fall back into cultural norms. I would suspect that this holds true for the MENA women who have become westernized as well.

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if it looks disgusting get that stuff fixed!

I don't understand the whole hymen thing because people can break it in a number of ways. Also, there isn't always bleeding. How will the husband really know for sure?

He doesn't need to know 'for sure'. Mere suspicion/paranoia is enough.

I try to understand but I don't think I ever will *sigh*

Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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if it looks disgusting get that stuff fixed!

I don't understand the whole hymen thing because people can break it in a number of ways. Also, there isn't always bleeding. How will the husband really know for sure?

i suppose he can always go look for the mon cheri......

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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I can't think of a medical reason why it should be used. If it's purely psychological, I don't think it's a good idea, especially on children. It's like being raped all over again. Like something is wrong with you that needs to be "fixed".

Are you kidding, who wouldn't want to be raped all over again?

:unsure:

if it looks disgusting get that stuff fixed!

I don't understand the whole hymen thing because people can break it in a number of ways. Also, there isn't always bleeding. How will the husband really know for sure?

i suppose he can always go look for the mon cheri......

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:unsure:

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