Oh, it's this again.....

[Heracles 417]

Nicely put but somehow I think you missed the entire point of having a strong, modern, way of self defending by putting in our grain of sand in a real and progressive offense.

Well your thoughts are along the lines that America has to go out and help Mexico. Mexico needs to help Mexicans, not America. That is how the world works.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There are lots of countries. Let me name a few. Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Tibet, Cuba, and many more. Sure, you can sue, that is, if you can show up to court (if you know what I meant). Hehehe.

Can you imagine a hippie wanker liberal went to the police there and complained about their rights and said they will sue.. hahahahaha

That right there is what America really needs - a communist dictatorship or Pol Pot.

[Jack and Barbara 0]

I think the question on whether or not the economic recession or slowdown is caused primarily by illegal immigration is a fair question in this debate.

IMO it is not.

No not caused but is a contributing factor. How long did you think America could simply let in millions and millions of workers without suffering the consequences? Either every other OECD nation is stupid for cracking down on illegal immigration or pro-illegal immigration people here are smart.

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

[cesar 0]

So in essence, the whole thread loses meaning and it makes me want to read more about Mariah Carey having sex with Nick Cannon.

Diana

WHA WHA WHA!?!?! With Nick Cannon out of all people!?!

[Heracles 417]

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

I got the answer for that as well. And this actually ties directly into the question #6 asked. $24,000,000,000 has been sent back to Mexico in the first quarter of this year alone. That money should be used in the American economy. This is what generates jobs. America is a service based economy. $96 billion annually would have done a lot to generate growth in America, for Americans.

People seriously don't seem to get that. When I migrate to a country I want to work and spend in that country. This is what creates jobs.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Niels Bohr 72]

So in essence, the whole thread loses meaning and it makes me want to read more about Mariah Carey having sex with Nick Cannon.

Diana

WHA WHA WHA!?!?! With Nick Cannon out of all people!?!

Mariah Carey is hot. I want to see her in a porn flick with Nick Cannon.

Anywayz,

The Mexicans probably have a corrupt government that keeps on drinking that money, and not doing anything with their people. Instead of migrating like birds in the winter, do a coup d'etet. Get rid of the current governmen.

Edited May 2, 2008 by consolemaster

[Ban Hammer 13,977]

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

I got the answer for that as well. And this actually ties directly into the question #6 asked. $24,000,000,000 has been sent back to Mexico in the first quarter of this year alone. That money should be used in the American economy. This is what generates jobs. America is a service based economy. $96 billion annually would have done a lot to generate growth in America, for Americans.

People seriously don't seem to get that. When I migrate to a country I want to work and spend in that country. This is what creates jobs.

a bit of a high number there. got a link for that?

[HAL 9000 96]

Well, most of these threads are all about being one up than the other. That's all. Some people have "interesting" things to say but they're very few and far in between.

So in essence, the whole thread loses meaning and it makes me want to read more about Mariah Carey having sex with Nick Cannon.

Diana

Rise above it all sister Diana...

Sometimes you have to steer the discussion with the magical ability to stay on topic.

[Jack and Barbara 0]

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

I got the answer for that as well. And this actually ties directly into the question #6 asked. $24,000,000,000 has been sent back to Mexico in the first quarter of this year alone. That money should be used in the American economy. This is what generates jobs. America is a service based economy. $96 billion annually would have done a lot to generate growth in America, for Americans.

People seriously don't seem to get that. When I migrate to a country I want to work and spend in that country. This is what creates jobs.

True, but there is also the other side of the undetermined amount of money American expatriates send back to the U.S. which other countries could make the same arguement of keeping that money abroad.

[Heracles 417]

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

I got the answer for that as well. And this actually ties directly into the question #6 asked. $24,000,000,000 has been sent back to Mexico in the first quarter of this year alone. That money should be used in the American economy. This is what generates jobs. America is a service based economy. $96 billion annually would have done a lot to generate growth in America, for Americans.

People seriously don't seem to get that. When I migrate to a country I want to work and spend in that country. This is what creates jobs.

a bit of a high number there. got a link for that?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353937,00.html

U.S. Border Crackdown Leads to Drop in Illegal Immigration

Friday, May 02, 2008

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Money being sent back is down

Remittances soared in the early part of the decade to become Mexico's largest source of foreign income after oil exports. But they rose just 1 percent in 2007, reaching $24 billion and in the first quarter this year, they slipped almost 3 percent from the same period last year, Mexico's central bank said this week.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[HAL 9000 96]

Nicely put but somehow I think you missed the entire point of having a strong, modern, way of self defending by putting in our grain of sand in a real and progressive offense.

Well your thoughts are along the lines that America has to go out and help Mexico. Mexico needs to help Mexicans, not America. That is how the world works.

As long as we derive benefit in a bipolar fashion, yes. Not agreeing with it is not an excuse to sit back and criticize for want of criticism.

[SteveLaura 0]

$24 billion was for the whole of 2007, not the first quarter of this year.

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i have an idea....shocking i know.

its friday & since we all know where everyone else stands on this issue, who wants to trade arguements today?

i'll take pro illegal/humanity/sympathy blah blah blah side.

who wants to take the GTFO they don't belong here side?

[Heracles 417]

Rise above it all sister Diana...

Sometimes you have to steer the discussion with the magical ability to stay on topic.

Well that is ironical considering someone's post is about Mariah Carey..

[HAL 9000 96]

Then the real question would be how much is it a contributing factor? Anything from not paying a tip at dinner last night could not be considered a contributing factor because the waiter/waitress is late on paying rent and those extra few bucks could really have made the difference. An extreme example, I know, but basically anything can be construed as a contributing factor to an economic recession or boom.

I got the answer for that as well. And this actually ties directly into the question #6 asked. $24,000,000,000 has been sent back to Mexico in the first quarter of this year alone. That money should be used in the American economy. This is what generates jobs. America is a service based economy. $96 billion annually would have done a lot to generate growth in America, for Americans.

People seriously don't seem to get that. When I migrate to a country I want to work and spend in that country. This is what creates jobs.

That's a serious side effect that could be prevented. Imagine, if the Mexican economy were stronger in its citizenry, it would open the logical door for the citizen market to open itself up to US products made in the US, thereby injecting more funds into the US economy. Right?