Clinton 'misspoke' about '96 Bosnia trip

[simple_male 1]

Plus, how many times has she referred to her courage under sniper fire in Bosnia as practically a centerpiece of her presentation of her 'experience'?

The centerpiece is a fake!

I also think it is fake. If she were under sniper's fire, she would not have forgotten the incident. How many times she had come under sniper's fire in her life? One time, if the Bosnia incident were true. None, if the Bosnia incident was not true. It does not matter how many countries she visited and how many millions statements she made. What matters is how many times she had come under sniper fire. If it were one time, she would not have forgotten or misspoken.

So now she is under fire for not coming under fire.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

This mis-statement aside - She's doing what most people do on their resume putting a gloss on things to make the best possible impression. Still there's only so far a person can can go to establish their credentials and experience, and if they don't bear up to scruntiny or aren't as substantial as claimed it logically follows that you should avoid making them a core part of your frontline presentation.

Courage under sniper fire when there was no sniper fire? To use a geek analogy, that's like me saying I've managed a data center move involving 500 pieces of hardware, when I haven't. That's a lie. That's not gloss.

[metta 0]

For me, this story shows how being the first lady is not anything close to gaining experience as president.

Well, vicarious experience is hard to explain. I never cooked for myslef before coming to America, but struggling through cultural shock and school, I learned to cook my ethnic food just by recall. That is recalling what I've seen of others cooking.

You know how a certain food should taste and what ingredients are needed though you've never cooked the food yourself.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This mis-statement aside - She's doing what most people do on their resume putting a gloss on things to make the best possible impression. Still there's only so far a person can can go to establish their credentials and experience, and if they don't bear up to scruntiny or aren't as substantial as claimed it logically follows that you should avoid making them a core part of your frontline presentation.

Courage under sniper fire when there was no sniper fire? To use a geek analogy, that's like me saying I've managed a data center move involving 500 pieces of hardware, when I haven't. That's a lie. That's not gloss.

Its a lie if you know it to be untrue.

McCain has made similar (recent) verbal gaffes hasn't he?

[Alex+R 0]

For me, this story shows how being the first lady is not anything close to gaining experience as president.

Well, vicarious experience is hard to explain. I never cooked for myslef before coming to America, but struggling through cultural shock and school, I learned to cook my ethnic food just by recall. That is recalling what I've seen of others cooking.

You know how a certain food should taste and what ingredients are needed though you've never cooked the food yourself.

Do you really believe cooking and running a country are analogous? I don't think it works that way.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Its a lie if you know it to be untrue.

McCain has made similar (recent) verbal gaffes hasn't he?

McCain has made plenty.

So are you saying she walked casually and upright, but thought she was ducking from imaginary sniper fire?

Did she think the 8-year girl who read her a poem was actually a military officer telling her to watch out for snipers? How about the greeting ceremony she claimed never happened, but actually did... what did she think that was? A briefing on the sniper threat?

Edited March 25, 2008 by VJ Troll

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So are you saying she walked casually and upright, but thought she was ducking from imaginary sniper fire?

Did she think the 8-year girl who read her a poem was actually a military officer telling her to watch out for snipers? How about the greeting ceremony she claimed never happened, but actually did... what did she think that was? A briefing on the sniper threat?

I have no idea. Could be any number of reasons - not least that she simply got her trips mixed up.

[metta 0]

For me, this story shows how being the first lady is not anything close to gaining experience as president.

Well, vicarious experience is hard to explain. I never cooked for myslef before coming to America, but struggling through cultural shock and school, I learned to cook my ethnic food just by recall. That is recalling what I've seen of others cooking.

You know how a certain food should taste and what ingredients are needed though you've never cooked the food yourself.

Do you really believe cooking and running a country are analogous? I don't think it works that way.

I don't think the analogy is too far off from reality. The operative word here is vicarious.

The First lady shares all the trials and tribulations that her spouse goes through and for political couples especially, the spouse is the most intimate person privy to the innermost thoughts of the President except ofcourse those having to do with the dalliances

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

So are you saying she walked casually and upright, but thought she was ducking from imaginary sniper fire?

Did she think the 8-year girl who read her a poem was actually a military officer telling her to watch out for snipers? How about the greeting ceremony she claimed never happened, but actually did... what did she think that was? A briefing on the sniper threat?

I have no idea. Could be any number of reasons - not least that she simply got her trips mixed up.

If that was the case, she'd have said so by now. It's a believable explanation. The fact that she hasn't offered it speaks volumes.

Instead, she said.... "I say a lot of things" ...

[metta 0]

This mis-statement aside - She's doing what most people do on their resume putting a gloss on things to make the best possible impression. Still there's only so far a person can can go to establish their credentials and experience, and if they don't bear up to scruntiny or aren't as substantial as claimed it logically follows that you should avoid making them a core part of your frontline presentation.

Courage under sniper fire when there was no sniper fire? To use a geek analogy, that's like me saying I've managed a data center move involving 500 pieces of hardware, when I haven't. That's a lie. That's not gloss.

Its a lie if you know it to be untrue.

McCain has made similar (recent) verbal gaffes hasn't he?

Well, I say embellishment.

Politicians- all of them- have a tendency to get carried away especially on a stump. Even goody-two-shoes Al Gore is guilty of that.

Barack also had a made up friend "Ray" of his college days ( in Dreams from my Father) who was infact a composite character.

reagan got his movie scripts and real life stories mixed up in his speeches especially about the bomber pilots story.

[AlHayatZween 2]

Ha!

This whole news story is making me laugh. Sure, she was just glossing things over, etc...

And yes, we all know that McCain keeps "misspeaking" left and right... (Lucky for him, he's not in the spotlight right now, so people are barely paying attention.)

But Hil did it TWICE... TWICE she hyperbolized what she herself wrote in her book.... And she's been so hard on Obama for not having any experience, much less "foreign policy" experience... it's almost like she set herself up for this. Who are her advisors? And why are they allowing for these mistakes?

Instead, she said.... "I say a lot of things" ...

That is pretty funny!

i love this little smiley -->

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I say a lot of things — millions of words a day

I can't get over how funny that is!!!!!!!!!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So are you saying she walked casually and upright, but thought she was ducking from imaginary sniper fire?

Did she think the 8-year girl who read her a poem was actually a military officer telling her to watch out for snipers? How about the greeting ceremony she claimed never happened, but actually did... what did she think that was? A briefing on the sniper threat?

I have no idea. Could be any number of reasons - not least that she simply got her trips mixed up.

If that was the case, she'd have said so by now. It's a believable explanation. The fact that she hasn't offered it speaks volumes.

Instead, she said.... "I say a lot of things" ...

She has said a lot of things, as have all career politicians. You can't expect someone to scour every statement a person has made in their career and make retractions, alterations and justifications. Perhaps that's what people expect - but it seems a little unreasonable to me - especially when these things are used as the basis to question their basic honesty.

I'm just not sure that things like this are really worth everybody's time.

[metta 0]

So are you saying she walked casually and upright, but thought she was ducking from imaginary sniper fire?

Did she think the 8-year girl who read her a poem was actually a military officer telling her to watch out for snipers? How about the greeting ceremony she claimed never happened, but actually did... what did she think that was? A briefing on the sniper threat?

I have no idea. Could be any number of reasons - not least that she simply got her trips mixed up.

If that was the case, she'd have said so by now. It's a believable explanation. The fact that she hasn't offered it speaks volumes.

Instead, she said.... "I say a lot of things" ...

She has said a lot of things, as have all career politicians. You can't expect someone to scour every statement a person has made in their career and make retractions, alterations and justifications. Perhaps that's what people expect - but it seems a little unreasonable to me - especially when these things are used as the basis to question their basic honesty.

I'm just not sure that things like this are really worth everybody's time.

Well, let's face it. She blew it on this Bosnia thing.

[yogib37 3]

The big deal is how hilarious this is. "I say a lot of things"!!!!

isn't that sop for a woman?

So bro dean.. you going to share your

bro chopf##k yogi