Russia "tried to help" Donald Trump win election, CIA concludes

[Dakine10 5,452]

Indeed you do. But I don't think Trump cares about that. He has the KGB afterall.

Putin will be calling in some favors no doubt.

[Dakine10 5,452]

How can a group be objective though, when the documents they obtain are those that are mostly stolen or obtained through unclear means. Does the interest of 'knowledge' absolve them of dealing in illegal activities?

I think they were objective in that they weren't necessarily taking a partisan approach in the past. I know this term butthurt has been thrown around a lot lately, but Assange obviously has a bad case of it. I suppose living in the Ecuadorian embassy for six years will do that to a person though.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

NB, the FBI director told the truth that they had discovered extra emails. But they did not elaborate on what that actually meant. It left the public to draw conclusions about things that did not really exist. Meanwhile disinformation spread through the populace. It may have turned off some voters to Hillary, but did not cost her the election - what cost her the election had already been completed ahead of time. Think about Russia for a minute and how they operate with their own public. There is a reason why they do the things they do. Masters at propaganda and manipulation, they operate psychological tactics and plant stories (both good and bad) to the point the public can no longer figure out what is real and what is not any more. They do not know what new sources to trust. They have been also drawing over some former US newcasters into the fold, for their network, who suddenly spout the propaganda line. Meanwhile, real investigative journalists are losing their lives trying to fight back. There has been article after article about Russia's desire to influence our election and not in a traditional way that involves hacking or bumping someone off. All they needed to do was employ the same tactics they already use. They have done it before in other countries, as many publications have examined. And other countries, like Turkey for instance are using the same ideas and finding favor with the Kremlin. We now have a PEOTUS that is a Pro-Russian shill, and his supporters cheer about this as an acceptable means to justify an end. It is clear on this forum this is acceptable to some, because they believe our way of government needs to be more closely aligned to fascist ideals. Suddenly you no longer trust our news sources nor do you trust our own operatives in government, because the seeds of distrust and confusion have already been sewn. This is a long game to Putin. And as I've said before, if you make a deal with the devil, eventually the devil wants it's dues. People would like to turn a blind eye to that right now. By the time people wonder what the hell happened it will be too late to start crying.

The evidence is already before you. WL has what impeccable track record how exactly? WL is an organization that deals in piracy. Trafficking in what has been stolen and publishing it for all to see. They get around this little moral question by pretending to be a beacon of information that shines a light on what has been hidden. The fact is the beacon they show are documents that are obtained by theft. The documents they obtain can be manipulated easily, and they can also be easily funneled by foreign entities for the purpose of doing things you'd rather not think about or acknowledge. At which point or year do you think WAPO started ''dealing in fake news'' as you claim? Or is it only the articles that don't shine a favorable light on people you like?

How can a group be objective though, when the documents they obtain are those that are mostly stolen or obtained through unclear means. Does the interest of 'knowledge' absolve them of dealing in illegal activities?

Indeed you do. But I don't think Trump cares about that. He has the KGB afterall.

What do the Russians want?

[smilesammich 10,727]

What do the Russians want?

[MarkPerry 488]

Yeah, watching his cabinet selections, I get the impression he's just trying to see what sticks.

I find it to be one of the most impressive cabinets put together in years.

Mattis is the crown jewel