Guns from out-of-state make up the grand majority of city crimes

[Teddy B 17,251]

90% of all guns used in city crimes in 2011 came from out-of-state, which was a 4% increase from the previous year. Mayor Bloomberg pushing for tougher laws across the country.

Guns from states with weak firearms laws are being used at an ever-increasing rate in city crimes, Mayor Bloomberg said Wednesday, as he vowed to continue his push for tougher laws across the country.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/out-of-state-guns-ny-gun-crimes-article-1.1414139#ixzz2akFm4XU8

States with lax gun laws are the major suppliers of illegal guns for states with tough gun laws. This is something the gun nutters don't won't to admit, or deal with when it comes to stricter gun laws. This is why we need nationwide laws.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Teddy B

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It is the same with Chicago. Most of the guns used in Chicago crimes came from nearby states with lax gun laws. But then they want to blame the states with the restrictive gun laws. Doesn't make sense.

[Harsh_77 716]

The thing is criminals do not care about the law, they never cared and would never care.

Now think about this a lawful gun owner is restricted to the magazine size thanks to bloomberg is confronted with a criminal who has access to magazine with 7+ capacity.

[Teddy B 17,251]

It is the same with Chicago. Most of the guns used in Chicago crimes came from nearby states with lax gun laws. But then they want to blame the states with the restrictive gun laws. Doesn't make sense.

Exactly.

Also from the story.

All those states have some sort of "private sale loophole” that doesn’t require background checks, Bloomberg said. And those guns are maiming and killing New Yorkers, he said.

"Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina all provide more crime guns to New York State than you find from New York State alone," Feinblatt said.

It's kind of hard to believe statements that gun control doesn't work and less guns do not equal less crime, all the while illegal guns are flowing into these states at a record pace from the gun nutter states that have the lax laws. Nationwide laws, no loopholes, background checks for everyone, then the numbers will drop.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Nationwide laws, no loopholes, background checks for everyone, then the numbers will drop.

That's "infringing on their rights" so that will never happen.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Now think about this a lawful gun owner is restricted to the magazine size thanks to bloomberg is confronted with a criminal who has access to magazine with 7+ capacity.

Yeah, cause this happens every day. Only seven shots??

That's "infringing on their rights" so that will never happen.

I would like to think that one's right to breathe would trump one's right to shoot things. But I guess the gun nutters don't agree.

[Karee 4,189]

Any kind of nationwide gun laws wont happen anytime soon. Even if there were such laws, I doubt it would change a thing.

[Harsh_77 716]

Yeah, cause this happens every day. Only seven shots??

Even if it happens once its the lawful citizen who would be at the risk not the criminal.

The tough laws that bloomberg is supporting does not help the law abidding citizens but helps criminals.

How does the anti gun folk never seem to understand.. bloomberg talks about gun control on and on but he never travels without his security details, even when he is visiting different countries where gun are not that common.

Bloomberg is ok when his security detail carries full auto weapons with high capacity magazine but when ordinary citizen wants to protect themself its crazy.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Any kind of nationwide gun laws wont happen anytime soon. Even if there were such laws, I doubt it would change a thing.

Having the same strict gun laws nationwide, will decrease the amount of guns available for import to other states. If these guns cannot be had so easily in some states, the supply will begin to dry up.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Even if it happens once its the lawful citizen who would be at the risk not the criminal.

The tough laws that bloomberg is supporting does not help the law abidding citizens but helps criminals.

How does the anti gun folk never seem to understand.. bloomberg talks about gun control on and on but he never travels without his security details, even when he is visiting different countries where gun are not that common.

Bloomberg is ok when his security detail carries full auto weapons with high capacity magazine but when ordinary citizen wants to protect themself its crazy.

Political figures unfortunately have to deal with nutjobs who want to harm them.

How many ordinary citizens have to fear assassination attempts? And I mean legitimately fear, not made-up paranoia.

[Harsh_77 716]

Having the same strict gun laws nationwide, will decrease the amount of guns available for import to other states. If these guns cannot be had so easily in some states, the supply will begin to dry up.

Thats a good thought but does not work that way.

Criminals will find a way to get their hands on weapons either way, it will be the law abidding citizen who would have hard time getting a weapon.

Political figures unfortunately have to deal with nutjobs who want to harm them.

How many ordinary citizens have to fear assassination attempts? And I mean legitimately fear, not made-up paranoia.

How many times was Bloomberg attacked?

How many times was house of Bloomberg attacked by robbers? How many time a gas station owner was attacked by armed robbers?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Thats a good thought but does not work that way.

Criminals will find a way to get their hands on weapons either way, it will be the law abidding citizen who would have hard time getting a weapon.

Why would it be hard for a law abiding citizen to pass a background check for their weapon?

Thats a good thought but does not work that way.

Criminals will find a way to get their hands on weapons either way, it will be the law abidding citizen who would have hard time getting a weapon.

How many times was Bloomberg attacked?

How many times was house of Bloomberg attacked by robbers? How many time a gas station owner was attacked by armed robbers?

I don't know how many silly threats he gets. Do you?

I wasn't specifically talking about him, I was talking about political figures in general. Unfortunately being well known, especially in politics, puts your life at risk if you're walking around in the public. All it takes is one crazy who wants to harm you or your family.

There's no reason that gas station owner shouldn't have a firearm to protect himself against armed robbers.

Sorry if I don't think he should have AK-47s.

[Karee 4,189]

Having the same strict gun laws nationwide, will decrease the amount of guns available for import to other states. If these guns cannot be had so easily in some states, the supply will begin to dry up.

Doubt it. If people want them and there's a market for them, they'll get them. Also, keep in mind there is no shelf life that I'm aware of for guns like there is drugs or alcohol. Guns are almost forever. Kinda like diamonds. Ammunition is another story. Passing more gun laws aint gonna do squat. Until they get to the root causes of why people are blowing each other away, no gun laws are gonna change anything. THere's more than 330 million guns in this country. It's a little late to be passing laws restricting their sale.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Doubt it. If people want them and there's a market for them, they'll get them. Also, keep in mind there is no shelf life that I'm aware of for guns like there is drugs or alcohol. Guns are almost forever. Kinda like diamonds. Ammunition is another story. Passing more gun laws aint gonna do squat. Until they get to the root causes of why people are blowing each other away, no gun laws are gonna change anything. THere's more than 330 million guns in this country. It's a little late to be passing laws restricting their sale.

This is the sad truth. The guns are already here due to decades of not really doing anything about the issue.

Gun violence will always be a problem in this country since it's clearly impossible to have a conversation about what causes it without one side or the other getting defensive.

Hell, some people can't even admit there IS a problem.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Teddy B 17,251]

Doubt it. If people want them and there's a market for them, they'll get them. Also, keep in mind there is no shelf life that I'm aware of for guns like there is drugs or alcohol. Guns are almost forever. Kinda like diamonds. Ammunition is another story. Passing more gun laws aint gonna do squat. Until they get to the root causes of why people are blowing each other away, no gun laws are gonna change anything. THere's more than 330 million guns in this country. It's a little late to be passing laws restricting their sale.

Ofcourse the people that will stop at nothing to get the guns will more than likely find a way to get them, that doesn't render the entirity of nationwide gun laws useless. When you make something harder for people to get, a good amount of them will stop trying to get it, it's human nature for most people, even criminals.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Teddy B