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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    Pence is collateral damage in a war of words that will not end anytime soon. It is encouraging that the VP took the time to hear a dissenting voice and it adds to my respect for him. As far a leisure time, he stepped into a public venue and he is always on the clock when he is in the public eye.
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    Hamilton the musical is a political dialogue. Why is it not the right venue for a capstone speech to the audience?
    Its not like it was a lecture on top of the Lion King.
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    Rob L reacted to bcking in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    Few comments since I fell behind on this discussion:
    1. Hamilton is NOT just about politics during a "certain time in history". It is very much about modern America as well. As someone else mentions I agree that in the setting of this particular musical their message was not as "off topic" as if it was during something like Aladdin, Lion King etc...
    2. People need to stop pointing at the single actor. He was approached by the producers, and LMM was involved as well. He was asked to say it at the end, but he didn't write it. It was something that came from the entire production as a whole. (Not saying this changes the discussion that much, but that if you are angry direct at not just him but the whole production)
    3. The booing was not brought on by the company, and they even tried to calm the audience (from what it looks like in the videos of the speech). So I think we also need to separate what they said from the "booing" and "heckling". The cast themselves were not heckling Pence. Blame the audience for booing him.
    Bottom line I felt like the cast/company believe very strongly in certain things, they got together and decided how to address that knowing he would be there, and they did it in the most respectful way that they could. Their language was focused on hope. They didn't say "You're an evil racist and we hate you". They said that they hope he will consider yada yada. It was as positive as they could make it. As an amateur musician I don't think I would stand up on stage to deliver a political message if I were giving a performance, however I recognize that their performance itself was already very political and I'm not all that surprised (or bothered) that they did it.
    If Obama attended a play about a time in American History where people tried to "take away the people's guns" and that was the focus of the play, and at the end of the play the cast members stood up and said "Obama we hope you enjoyed our show and we emplore you to think about all of the people who value and love their guns and please consider that" I don't think he would have been offended.
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    get back to us on that
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    Rob L reacted to Ban Hammer in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
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    Rob L got a reaction from Ebunoluwa in Trump agrees ro $25M settlement in Trump University fraud cases   
    he paid the 25 million for the good of the country. There are 74 other outstanding civil suits..i wonder where the money to settle those will be, for the good of the country
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in A scramble to assess the dangers of president elect Donald Trump's global business empire   
    Like the tax returns, we are told that these things are quite interesting and boring and we should nit worry our heads about them
    There is nothing to see here
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Gaslight nation: Trump pretends he saved Kentucky auto jobs (he didn't)   
    I follow IT business closely, Apple has been looking at on shoring options for several years.
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Gaslight nation: Trump pretends he saved Kentucky auto jobs (he didn't)   
    unless...you want to sell cars in Canada and Mexico and want to keep the higher value production closer to home. But hey, Trump is a business man and has all this auto production stuff down
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump agrees ro $25M settlement in Trump University fraud cases   
    we are in a new era: victims are have brought them upon themselves and represent weakness that must be expunged from the herd. We don't like victims, we like winners.
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    Rob L got a reaction from CarlosAndSveta in Trump agrees ro $25M settlement in Trump University fraud cases   
    the same type if idiots that listen to a Trump political sales pitch and think all that winning is going to trickle down to them
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I thought Texas was the biggest and best. Who has taken you down a notch?
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    Rob L got a reaction from Ebunoluwa in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I have seen and heard so many nasty insults come out of Trumps mouth. I have not seen him disavow any of those statements or apologize. For Trump to demand an apology from anyone is rich.
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump agrees ro $25M settlement in Trump University fraud cases   
    the same type if idiots that listen to a Trump political sales pitch and think all that winning is going to trickle down to them
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    Rob L got a reaction from Marc_us82 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I have seen and heard so many nasty insults come out of Trumps mouth. I have not seen him disavow any of those statements or apologize. For Trump to demand an apology from anyone is rich.
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    Rob L got a reaction from CarlosAndSveta in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I thought the speech was quite eloquent,Pence to his credit stopped and listened. If we can get Pence to teach the President to listen, we have a chance to get this to work
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    Rob L got a reaction from CarlosAndSveta in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I have seen and heard so many nasty insults come out of Trumps mouth. I have not seen him disavow any of those statements or apologize. For Trump to demand an apology from anyone is rich.
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    Rob L got a reaction from yuna628 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    if we cam unite all of the snowflakes, we can become a powerful force! Maybe even a snowball!
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    if we cam unite all of the snowflakes, we can become a powerful force! Maybe even a snowball!
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    Rob L got a reaction from yuna628 in How Liberals view Blacks.   
    This is not what the conservative district court said about Texas voter id laws. They found that the laws had the effect of suppressing non white votes. This does not mean the law creators intended the law to have that effect, just that it did in fact suppress the vote
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in How Liberals view Blacks.   
    This is not what the conservative district court said about Texas voter id laws. They found that the laws had the effect of suppressing non white votes. This does not mean the law creators intended the law to have that effect, just that it did in fact suppress the vote
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I thought the speech was quite eloquent,Pence to his credit stopped and listened. If we can get Pence to teach the President to listen, we have a chance to get this to work
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in Trump demands apology from "Hamilton " staff   
    I have seen and heard so many nasty insults come out of Trumps mouth. I have not seen him disavow any of those statements or apologize. For Trump to demand an apology from anyone is rich.
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    Rob L got a reaction from Cheezees in How Liberals view Blacks.   
    This is not what the conservative district court said about Texas voter id laws. They found that the laws had the effect of suppressing non white votes. This does not mean the law creators intended the law to have that effect, just that it did in fact suppress the vote
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    Rob L got a reaction from Jacque67 in This list of topics is the quickest way to anger your liberal friends   
    Mocking them because they are backing a racist, mysogynistic, xenophobic candidate who will destroy America, and he has NO CHANCE of winning.
    well, we almost got it right
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