godspeed

36 minutes ago, appleblossom said:

What a great idea. I'd happily donate to help people get out of such horrendous situations, if they're asylum seekers who've lost everything in a war zone they're hardly going to have the money for a flight.

seeing the bigger picture is key to understanding the events leading to the problems faced by these people 

who created those war zones and is now using those refugees to further reset and break down the systems they want to change by force?

https://justthenews.com/events/obama-bush-and-clinton-start-non-governmental-organization-fly-migrants-across-us

40 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Philippine law is pretty straight forward on that. If one of the couple is a foreigner and the divorce takes place in the foreign country it is eligible for “Recognition of Foreign Divorce” no matter where the marriage took place. Recognition of foreign divorce takes as long and costs as much as an annulment…no surprise there. 

I wonder if it really matters unless you intend to live in the Philippines - because if you are divorced in the US where marriage occurred maybe you would be able to remarry in the US regardless of the PH government - I’m not looking to divorce or expecting a bad spouse but it’s good to make this known for the process. 

So here’s a question related to this process; 

if you file a ROM for a US marriage does a US divorce also dissolve a PH marriage?

what if your partner cheats or becomes abusive - it would be a real drag to have to go there to the PH  to try to get an annulment to get away from that… 

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-04-17-biden-grant-illegal-aliens-free-government-healthcare.html

I’m wasting my time here I’ll just have to get a petition ready for people to sign I guess…. 
 

I’m hoping to get some good ideas and input on how to make things better and get the ball rolling 

The CFO may have some good intentions but it’s way too nosy and what kind of people want to work those jobs and who watches over them?

10 hours ago, Caligirl1 said:

What information to be verified by online databases? That can be accessed/hacked by everyone?you don't pay fees , just so they print papers......I'm sorry, but what you say in your posts is pretty much baseless

they could also walk in and steal your info…

Have you ever paid for a copy of your documents? I’m sure you have… get lost 

ya like jumping through BS  hoops and defending stupid for no brownie points?

What would be helpful is developing petitions to police the USCIS through congressional laws 

as well as ideas about how it could be improved - for example ;

Online databases of information to be verified rather than making people pay ridiculous fees to print out documents to send from one department to another…

16 minutes ago, Caligirl1 said:

If it is so bad here, like you say......makes me wonder, why you chose to get here....🤔

People have a normalcy bias and like to be teacher’s pet.. that’s why they defend gross inadequacies in their governments - which only serves their egotism not improvements for the species 

46 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

They already do when the K-1 entrant marries and applies for Adjustment of Status.

they make you wait how long to get that authorized? and how does that compare to just waiting for the AOS to process?

how much do you lose per month not being able to work and how does it affect a human being on a psychological level?

42 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

Inhumane?

 

I'd hardly call it that.  The immigration process is voluntary.  As with any major life change, it pays to do one's due diligence in researching the options.  Every single time someone comes to VJ inquiring about the K-1, they are given a list of tangible drawbacks.

 

Own your process, do your research, make choices you can live with.

k1 or CR1 both are garbage processes, and why do things like this suck? because people put up with it like sheeple as they have been taught to do in public schools

don't make excuses for them..

16 minutes ago, W199 said:

Usually, but admittedly not always, there is more to the story than this. 

 

My fiancée just did the online CFO. It was excellent, and very easy. They didn't need any paperwork except the scanned visa and the passports

  - She signed up for the online class in the morning. 

   - They sent her a bunch of questions to answer such as my details, when  we met, where/when have we ever traveled together before, etc. She just replied to them on WhatsApp to them. 

  - The next day she had the online video class and the phone interview

   - Then  the same day received the digital CFO certificate.

 

She said the seminar was very eye opening due to all the domestic abuse that so many end up having. They want them to be safe and know the laws and emergency contacts.   In fact, during the online video seminar, the CFO got a message from a Filipino who said she wanted to come back due to the abuse from her husband, which included abuse in public.

 

Her phone interview with the CFO was about 30 seconds to just confirm her details, and said the paperwork is all in order. They said if they suspect anything then the call will be as long as it takes. 

 

The ONLY paper work they needed was a scanned copy of her passport, my passport, and her visa. But to be on the safe side, we also sent our relationship photos.

 

They did NOT even ask for her cenomar, my divorce certificate, etc..  She said there is no need for other paperwork because they know we are doing the K-1 process and the embassy is already very thorough with all the K-1 paperwork. They only need to ask for things like the cenomar, criminal record, etc during special cases such as when they have never even met before (there was one or two in my fiancee's class that were going to meet their fiance for the very first time, I think on a tourist visa) or  when they report some kinds of abuse, or so many other unique circumstances.

 

There really are so many cases of domestic abuse and human trafficing, fake paperwork, etc.. that they are on the lookout. There were even cases where their agent did the CFO and interview for them. So now they need to show their passport or do something to prove its really them in the seminar. Many of the Filipinos are just not wise enough to prevent being tricked or just so desperate enough they will do anything to help their families.   So I can't really blame the CFO for sometimes going crazy with paperwork and other checking when they see a risk of this happening.

 

 

 

 

 

they get alot of money by making you buy copies of documents instead of messaging departments to verify information or simply checking in their databases...

that's partly how they pay for the bureaucracy

the domestic abuse and trafficking happen most INSIDE the philippines, and they don't make much of any effort to stop the rampant prostitution in the country, with Duterte hanging with prostitutes on the campaign trail and saying it's not a priority to stop it...

also, they pimp out the entire population to the WEF and WHO

it's about systems of control and building up the strength to force things on the people, COVID should be an eye opener about allowing government to have too much power and using it to prevent a threat to power systems at the top

it's about making you respect the big daddy pimp hand at the top, not keeping you safe

13 minutes ago, powerpuff said:

100% agree with this and I was a K1 AOS. Both my husband and I knew what this process entails and agreed that we can handle me not having a work/travel permit for ~a year or so. If this was something that we were not able to handle and come to terms with, we’d definitely have gone with a CR1. 
 

This isn’t it something that is “hidden” or a surprise. This is open information. It is what it is. If working and traveling immediately are of importance, K1 is not for you.

don't make excuses for them, getting the 'i'm just a player in their system' mentality is why the options suck - and they all do..

29 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

it would be a disaster

I551 stamp on passport or green card without marriage

there are those who would get the stamp or card and not marry but disappear into the illegal immigrant world 

we have enough  illegals

ah well they could make it valid with marriage cert

the borders are wide open, they don't care about illegals

39 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

A K-1 entrant is authorized to immediately apply for a work permit which would authorize him/her to work, after approval, until the I-94 expires.  Not being able to work for several to many months is, yet again, a known drawback of a K-1.  If working upon entry is a priority, the a K-1 is a poor choice.

With the introduction of the Utah Zoom marriage, the K-1 is looking weak. 

yes and the work permit application takes a long time, it's probably not worth filing at this time and just waiting for the AOS to finish unless they can speed things up

yep the zoom wedding looks to be the best way, but the problem is filing a ROM with the Philippines and having more legal ties to that country which is never a good idea in my experience

the USA is bad enough with puppet politicians and corruption but the Philippines is much worse with a less engaged public and almost entirely celebrity media

On 8/4/2021 at 2:02 PM, John & Rose said:

My wife had it easy when she did it during our K-1.  My step kids did it with their CR-2s and it was awful.  They learned things like Americans only bathe once a week and since their step father was old they would get social security money.  Oh, and I only petitioned my wife so someone would take care of me.  Luckily they already knew me well but other kids in the peer counseling were crying at the end and were afraid to leave the Philippines.

CFO is a nightmare these days, one lady in my fiance's class had a PSA certificate of marriage but they wouldn't accept it as evidence unless she brought the receipt she got when she paid for it...

where is that requirement posted for all to see?

On 12/29/2021 at 7:28 PM, John & Rose said:

Isn’t this a weird time!  I know of another couple who did the same. They even got the 9a without filing ROM. He made it to the Philippines on just the online wedding certificate. 

9a is only needed if you plan to stay longer than the temporary visa they give on arrival to US citizens, is that correct?

is there a reason to get a 9a if you only plan to go there for a couple weeks to consummate the marriage?

On 12/20/2021 at 9:15 AM, John & Rose said:

It doesn't matter what country the beneficiary is in.  You will have to physically meet after the wedding to legally file the spousal visa.  If you cannot meet, you can get married online and continue with the K-1.  Do not meet before the interview and you can complete the K-1 even after online marriage.  It is a little tricky but you are not "officially" married until you consummate the marriage in the eyes of immigration.  Once the K-1 is approved, the beneficiary can enter the US where your marriage will be officially recognized.  

are you sure about this?

I asked a US immigration attorney this question, and he said the if we get married online we can't file the k1 visa even if it hasn't been consummated yet

14 hours ago, SalishSea said:

They already thought of that.   You have just described the CR-1 process.

and why can't they provide a temporary work permit with a k1 visa? seems to be inhumane to make someone wait a year before being able to work

2 hours ago, top_secret said:

 

ROM is a Philippine government thing.  The Philippines does not require consummation. USCIS, NVC and the Embassy don't need the ROM at all.  For a Utah online marriage they want to see a certified copy of the Utah marriage certificate and proof you were together during OR after the wedding.  

well at least it weeds out people who aren’t serious about marriage because getting a divorce is almost impossible for the Ph

2 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

Then go for it

happy to sign one that i agree on

the one thing i would change is Joint sponsorship/get rid of it  and only approve visa if USC petitioner can afford the immigrant and themself

with the income set so low,   $18,310 for 2 for K1 ,,   and joint sponsor is not required to support the immigrant,  to me there is just no way 2 people can live on that especially in NYC or Miami

 

if u read VJ  the requirements are different for embassies /don't like that either /if i have to prove multiple visits to have a visa approved,,   everyone in every country should

Would be nice if they gave a green card in arrival for k1 at least until the adjustment can take effect so they aren’t helpless and dependent. 

47 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

‘Our tax dollars’ do not pay for people to bring their parents, siblings, children and spouses here from the old country.  Or a fiancé met once for two magical weeks.

Can you imagine the uproar if they did?

 

The USCIS/DOS fees is why they are referred to as self-funded.

yeah our tax money goes to the Ukraine and endless wars as well as spying on our personal lives instead 

9 minutes ago, RO_AH said:

Can't

Correct. If not married in the Philippines, you must file a ROM at the Philippine Consulate which has jurisdiction over the location where you were married. Utah falls under SF Consulate.

 

Get all of your paperwork in order so that you can file for the visa as soon as you return.

Should I wait to file the ROM in San Francisco until after consummation?

 
Also does it need to be filed before filing the CR1 petition?

5 minutes ago, RO_AH said:

Yes, get married and meet the consummation requirement.

 

I don't know if that is better or not, that's a personal choice. But I would just think it is more special to be together when getting married.

 

Most people started doing the Utah wedding when PH locked down due to covid and you could not go there to see a fiance but you could go visit your wife. It takes about 3 weeks to go there and get married but if you do a Utah wedding you could do it in a few days. Hard for some people to get 3 weeks off of work.

Is it better to register it in the Philippines while there together?

if I’m not mistaken an online Utah marriage has to be registered at the SF consulate and the ROM can’t be filed in the PH. Is this true?