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I called USCIS and spoke with a live person. I asked what they wanted from. The gentleman advised that I needed to state if Iwent though a marriage broker or not. He was pretty helpful and said I can just send in the Circumstace of Meeting letter and state that I had already sent in all my originals for evidence. Will send it all in again. Wish me luck everyone. I am crossing my fingers and hope this will be it.

I think what Chris is trying to say is that they want to know what you were talking about - how did you meet? Let me use an example of myself and my other half.

We met online in 2001 in a MUD (text-based roleplaying game). At first we had little contact - we communicated in public channels with a variety of other people. I went away to uni and found things hard there - we started talking more online and I found that he was both sympathetic and understanding and gave me sound advice with no ulterior motive. He was a good sounding board for when I felt down and we became close.

We talked about everything from his situation (he comes from a poor background) to my struggles in uni and we fell in love - we found that we enjoyed the same things and had the same ideologies about life. We shared an interest in video games and literature - myself in reading and him in writing.

We lost contact a bit over the next few years but still had sporadic e-mail contact. We had decided that due to the distance things weren't going to work out: he had no job and I was a bit messed up after finishing uni. This was in 2002. Eventually we started making more frequent contact again. I was at a point in my life where I felt confident and secure and he had got a good job for himself. We started speaking online and on the phone again and old feelings started to blossom.

Jeremy eventually decided that if we were going to make a go of things this time he was going to meet me in person. So he booked his flights and three months later we were together. Since then we haven't looked back.

Etc etc... That is a very brief outline of the sort of thing I expect they want to hear from you I'm no expert and I might be wrong. But if I had received the same RFE as you then this is what I would give them

here is latest revision:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I xxx xxx met my fiancé xxx xxx online in July 2004 in a YAHOO Chat Room, a free chat service with YAHOO Messenger chat program: http://messenger.yahoo.con/feat_chatrooms.com.

We would always see each other online, but never really chatted much. Eventually we both became regulars in the chat room and I introduced myself to Miss xxx xxx by saying hi. From that day when ever we saw each other online we would greet each other and chat for a bit. One day I saw that she had her web camera on and I asked her if I can see her. She allowed me to see her from her web camera. I also turned my web camera on so that we can have a video chat. We would chat for hours and just talked about things we were interested in. It seemed we had so much in common and got very close to each other. As we got to know each other more, we started to communicate privately via YAHOO Instant Messenger. After about a month, we exchanged email addresses and phone numbers so we can always keep in touch, when we didn‘t see each other online. We got along very well and talked to each other everyday either by phone, email or online. After talking for so long we got to know each other very well and decided it was time to meet each other in person.

During my 3 weeks vacation on April 2005, I booked a flight to Thailand and met her in person. I was really nervous the first time we met, but I knew then she was the woman I would like to spend the rest of my life with. She came to pick me up at Don Muang International Airport in Bangkok with her friend. We took the taxi on our first trip together to the Island Kho Samet in the gulf of Thailand. We spent the weekend there and had a wonderful time together. We went back to her home for Thai New Years celebration with her friends the following week. After that she accompanied me when I went to visit my Aunt in Ubon Ratchitani Province in North Eastern Thailand. I introduced her to my Aunt and we spent 3 days at my Aunt’s house. We stayed together the entire 3 weeks in Thailand. From those 3 weeks with her I knew, I was in love. Upon my return home to the United States, we continued our relationship online via YAHOO Messenger and frequently communicated by phone and email as a couple.

Even though we talked to each other every day. We wanted more out of our relationship. I had some money saved and decided to returned to Thailand in October 2005 to April 2007. I stayed with her during that entire period. I met her family and we got engaged to be married. We lived together and are very happy to be together. We never left each other side for the entire 18 months. We did everything together. We are very confident that our relationship will continue to grow strong. We love each other very much and we want to start a family as soon as possible. I have enclosed documentary proof of us having met in person within the past 2 years and an on going relationship.

So I respectfully request you to grant K-1 Visa to Miss xxx xxxx.

Thank you, "

thanks for the explanation.. I will try it again.. I want to get this right and everyone is being so helpful.. thanks everyone so much..

Here is my new revision:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I xxx xxx met my fiancé xxx xxx online in July 2004 in a YAHOO Chat Room, a free chat service with YAHOO Messenger chat program: http://messenger.yahoo.con/feat_chatrooms.com. To get to the chat room we met in: launch Yahoo Messenger, click on Messenger >> then click on Yahoo! Chat >> Join Chat rooms, when the Join Room window pop up click on Regional >> select Thailand and in the Yahoo! Rooms side expand the Thailand options and pick Thailand 2.

I introduced myself to Miss xxx xxxx as I would to anyone who first entered the chat room by saying hi. we started to chat and as we got to know each other, we started to communicate privately via YAHOO Instant Messenger. After about a month, we exchanged email addresses and phone numbers. We communicate via email or by phone when we were not able to get online with Yahoo Messenger. After communicating and talking for so long we decided it was time to meet each other in person.

During my 3 weeks vacation on April 2005, I booked a flight to Thailand and met my fiancé in person. I stayed with her for the entire 3 weeks in Thailand. We got to know each other very well and fell in love. Upon my return home to the United States, we continued our relationship online via YAHOO Messenger and frequently communicated by phone and email.

We decided to take our relationship to another level. I returned to Thailand in October 2005 to April 2007, I stayed with her during that period. I met her family and we got engaged to be married. We are very confident that our relationship will continue to grow strong. We love each other very much and we want to start a family as soon as possible. I have enclosed documentary proof of us having met in person within the past 2 years and an on going relationship.

So I respectfully request you to grant K-1 Visa to Miss xxx xxxx.

Thank you, "

That is great news.. congrats to you.. I hope I can get my fiance here soon too

thanks for the tip.. I will try again and be more specific.. I guess I wont leave out the details this time.. will try agian..

It seems to me they are asking how you met online. what website, was it free, did it cost. was it a marriage broker website etc. just stating you met online is too vague. did you tell them the name of the website etc? IMBRA is very important with internet meetings.

Chris

I am drafting another Circumstance of meeting letter.

The first time I just stated online didn't mention it was free online service from Yahoo.

This time I will be sure I say that it was from Yahoo chat via Yahoo Messenger.

I didnt go through any broker and Yahoo Chat was free.

I will make sure I state that in my next letter.

Does anyone think if I call USCIS to have them clarify what they want, will that help??

By reading your first RFE, I think they want the circumstance of how you met .. paint them a picture from how you ever first met and then how you met in real person ... When I wrote my letter, I started with, I met my fiance (NAME) in yahoo chat, on blah blah blah... eventually we became a couple and decided to meet in person blah blah blah and fell in love blah blah blah.. you get the picture? Hope that helps and good luck.

I got it thank you very much.. I am drafting a new letter now.. I hope this time it will be ok.. I will gather some more evidence and send it again.. here is what i have so far:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

I xxxxx xxxxxx met my fiancé xxxxx xxxxx online in July 2004 in YAHOO Messenger chat rooms (free online messaging service). We communicated privately online via YAHOO Messenger, fell in love and got to know each other very well.

During my 3 weeks vacation on April 2005, I booked a flight to Thailand and met my fiancé in person. I stayed with her for the entire 3 weeks in Thailand. Upon my return home to the United States, we continued our relationship online via YAHOO Messenger and frequently communicated by phone and email.

We decided to take our relationship to another level. I returned to Thailand in October 2005 to April 2007. I stayed with her during that period. I met her family and we got engaged to be married. We are very confident that our relationship will continue to grow strong. We love each other very much and we want to start a family as soon as possible. I have enclosed documentary proof of us having met in person within the past 2 years and an on going relationship.

So I respectfully request you to grant K-1 Visa to Miss xxxxxx xxxxxx.

Thank you, "

It seems to me they are asking how you met online. what website, was it free, did it cost. was it a marriage broker website etc. just stating you met online is too vague. did you tell them the name of the website etc? IMBRA is very important with internet meetings.

Chris

I am drafting another Circumstance of meeting letter.

The first time I just stated online didn't mention it was free online service from Yahoo.

This time I will be sure I say that it was from Yahoo chat via Yahoo Messenger.

I didnt go through any broker and Yahoo Chat was free.

I will make sure I state that in my next letter.

Does anyone think if I call USCIS to have them clarify what they want, will that help??

Do you have any plane boarding passes, hotel receipts, pictures of you together?

Unfortunatly I didnt save any boarding passes. I threw them all away after I got off the plane. When I stayed at the hotels my Ficance did the booking under her name. I do have pictures of us together.

Today I just recieved another circumstance of meeting request.

I am just getting frustrated. I guess.. when I stated that I met my fiance online and traveled to meet her in person was not enough. I will try to rephrase my letter and re-submit what other info I have left. I already sent them my airline receipts and dont have any copies of it. I am pretty sure they still have what I sent on files still. I will send more pictures of us together. I will be traveling to meet my fiance agian and maybe I can gather more evidence and send it from Thailand. I hope this will pass soon.

are you sure it's not just a mix-up in your understanding of what's required? I think someone said earlier: it sounds like you're sending evidence that proves you have met in the last 2 years, when MAYBE what they want is the signed statement about 'I first met my fiancée when we were in a restaurant on the...' etc etc

if it's that, I know you've sent one, but maybe it's not sufficient in some way if they're asking for it again... did you use the sample available here, as a model?

so sorry for the hassle you've been put through

all the best with sorting it out

I'm looking for a sample letter now... maybe just saying I met my fiance online in yahoo chat and traveling to meet her in person was not enough.. If anyone have any sample letter I can try to go by I would appreciate it very much.. thank you every one for the support and concern.. I havent given up yet..

I just recieved the letter and its the same request as the first one... they want the circumstance of meetin... I sent them a signed letter of the circumstance of how we met.. In the letter I stated that we met online and then I travled to Thailand to meet her.. I submitted everything I had.. I even put post it notes on my bank statements to show where I made the withdraw from atm in Thailand.. I added post it notes on the pitures of where and when it was taken.. and my airline reciepts to Thailand..

I guess I will try to call them to see what is going on..

One RFE is bad, but two...I feel for you! Its rare, to be sure, but it has happened before. Its a shame they can't seem to figure out all the stuff needed the first time around! You know the drill - wait for the letter and respond accordingly. Good luck!

Well said...I agreed. They should check everything thorough before sending too many RFE's. It's a waste of time to be doing that. They need to take a class on time management.

With the first RFE they wanted circumstance of meeting.. and I sent then a typed letter signed of the circumstnace of meeting. I sent them my bank statement showing my withdraws from ATMs in Thailand and I also sent them some airline ticket reciepts and undated pictures of me and my fiance..

I agree with you sunshinegirl but seems it is not enough for now.. I just checked the online status from USCIS and seems they are sending me another request for evidence. I hope that I will have what they request for. I guess will wait to see when I get the letter. Any ways I will be traveling to see my fiance this January. This time I think I will save more evidence.. but I am keeping my fingers crossed and hope for the best.

I just recieved online status of my application. Seems they are sending another request for evidence. I am not sure what else kind of evidence they want. I sent them all that I have and was pretty sure it was enough. I am now waiting for the letter to arrive. Maybe I am just worrying myself. Have anyone got a second RE letter?

I have a photo printer. Can I add dates on the pitures and print it out?

I personally wouldn't. I think USCIS are aware that dates can be manipulated. It probably makes no difference either way but I would just send the photos as they are.

I think I agree with you. I will just print out a few pictures and send them in.. will just add some notes in the back and cross my fingers.. hope everything I send in willbe ok..

-> Bank Statements of my ATM withdraws in Thailand

-> Flight receipts and Itinerary

-> Pictures of us together

-> and 1 page signed and dated letter about how we met.

Thank you for the great information.

I lost all my bording passes, good thing I used my Bank Debit card while I was down there.

I think I can print out my bank statents for the time of my travel and show the dates of my withdraws.

and one more question.

I have a photo printer. Can I add dates on the pitures and print it out?

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and have read many good information here.

I just have a few quetions.

We met online and communicated with each other for a few years.

Then when we finally met in person we really hit it off and came really close.

I lived with her for 18 months and we decided to get married.

I came back home to file for the F-129 pettion so we can get married here in the US.

I finally received a NOA on 10/2007 after filing on 06/2007 and seems they are requesting for more evidence.

Unfortunately I lost my passport and cant show the arrival and departure stamps.

They want: Cicumstance of Meeting and Last Meeting evidence.

For circumstance of meeting, do I just write them a letter of how we met?

and for Last Meeting, I have an itinary of our trips together and receipt of my flight to Thailand.

We have photos of us together but none are dated.

Will this be enough?