PistachioRose

1 hour ago, Khatera DS said:

Any updates on your case? What did you end up doing? 

Hello. We decided to marry. So, we got married in December of 2019. 

The age gap is 9 years.

1 minute ago, Pinkrlion said:

Not sure why u r offended by a word. You are about to embark on your third marriage with children. Are you from Pakistan? You are the older woman. How long have you been together? To avoid issues you need to be in this relationship for a long period of time before filing. 

 

Is three years long enough? We have met twice and stayed together in his home with family in separate rooms. I slept in the room with his sister. We had an engagement. I stayed 21 days and 30 days on two occasions with a six month happy between the two. Planning another visit in a few months to stay a month. I am debating to marry or to kit marry. He thinks the fiance Visa is easier for us but I believe we better marry and do the Spouse visa. He says I can love there but the children would have to relocate and they do not want to at the moment. I am trying to make things work for all of us. He has strong ties in his country because he is an imam and runs an Islamic center. So he would prefer to live therem it is not convenient for him to leave Pakistan. His mother is a widow and he worries about leaving her as well. He is relocating because it is he best way for us both. If there had been no kids it may have been eaiser for me to relocate to Pakistan. I am Muslim and he is Muslim also. 

8 minutes ago, Zoeeeeeee said:

Because I’ve explained the definition of a word that you don’t appear to understand? My apologies. 

 

That’s the problem. It isn’t just like marrying someone already in America, of the same culture. Because someone already living in America has no reason to fake a relationship to enable them to move to what is generally assumed will be a better life. But for many people in Pakistan, that’s exactly what moving to America would be - a better life - one worth faking love for. That’s why Pakistan, along with many other countries, are considered high fraud risks.

 

I’m not saying that’s the case with your relationship in any way - but it’s something that the embassy will consider, as they will have seen many examples of fraud.

I know many people paint a pretty picture with no intent to stay married once they get here. It is not that I don't understand the definition of the word serial. It is just when you label me as a person serial marrying Pakistani people to immigrate that is not the truth. I married and had real relationships. There were gaps between the marriages as well. I know why it may look bad but I want to gather advice on how to prepare myself.

9 minutes ago, missileman said:

How does he feel about you re-locating to Pakistan to live?

That's would be easier for both of us. He has said this often. The issue is I have children. He would be happy if I moved there. We have talked about it so often. I just have to figure out how to handle the children situation.

1 minute ago, NikLR said:

Good you may need more visits and a nice culturally appropriate marriage may work better for you.  K1 for often do not work as well especially if the spouse to be is more independent or a man who's more traditional in their thinking. 

 

Historically speaking Pakistani males can spend several months to several years in AP.  If you didn't find this on your previous two marriages, I'd be surprised.  There is no centralized police recording so extensive back ground checks must be performed. 

Thanks for a kinder response with facts. I know about AP both of my exes did go through this. I am prepared for that part. I just wanted to know if it is possible to obtain a K1. I tried to explain to my fiance that we need to marry instead.

Just now, debbiedoo said:

high risk because it is a high fraud country. 

 

good luck to you.

Any recommendations on more evidence? Should I visit him more?

2 hours ago, debbiedoo said:

 

YOu can feel however you want, it doesn't change the fact they speak the truth.

 

You are looking at a high risk country. You are bringing (or attempting to bring) multiple people in. how long the marriages are or what the circumstances are is fairly a moot point.

 

You will need more than multiple visits. You will need concrete, indisputable EVIDENCE that it is a real marriage. Financial documents (lots of it), intermingling with family, holidays, birthdays, celebrations that may be cultural norms, extensive time together in person, etc

I have married them. Not because of the country but my own culture. It is just like marrying two people here of the same culture. None have been related. The marriages just did not work out. High risk why? Because they are Muslim? I have met my fiance twice so far and stayed two months during each stay. We have been together since 2017. I stayed in his home.

2 hours ago, Zoeeeeeee said:

serial adjective [ not gradable ]

 US  /ˈsɪər·i·əl/

• happening one after another in time or order.

You can be offended by whatever you choose to be offended by - but the dictionary definition of ‘serial’ is one after another...which is exactly what you’ve posted about. If you want help, getting honest and accurate answers really is the best thing you can hope for, regardless of whether you like them.

Well you are just being plain rude.

45 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

An USC that has married foreign nationals that adjusted afterwards and then divorced them is going to have to deal with more scrutiny no matter where they are from. I wish you all the luck in the world, and if I was you I would make sure to prove that my relationship is bona fide as hard as I could (multiple visits, plane receipts, letters, knowledge of each other and each other families, photographs)

Ok, thank you for the suggestions. I am sure it will not be easy. I have visited mutiple times I guess that will help some.

Just now, Mary&Rafa said:

My answer pertains to your question about having a harder time. You are going to have an equal hard time no matter which one you choose.

 

Regarding the visa, marrying and filing for the CR-1 usually outweighs K-1 because the applicant will become a permanent resident as soon as they enter the US, can work and travel and it's cheaper. The downside is that it takes longer than K-1.

 

But if you want to apply just taking into account how hard it's going to be then my answer is the same. Both are going to be hard.

Ok, so either way I have my work cut out for me. I understand that it may be hard but hopefully not impossible. Does marrying someone from another country also become harder in a situation as such?

Do you know anyone or have you ever applied for multiple spouses from the same country? For example, you have had broken marriages and remarried and applied for the new spouse? I know I read about somebody who had this situation but I can no longer find the thread.

3 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

You can feel as you'd like, but that doesn't change the fact that the consular officer might also think that and deny the visa. You are coming here for answers and those are the answers. I understand how it can be upsetting, but you need to be prepared for the journey that lies ahead, which is neither going to be easy nor short. 

So where is your answer on which Visa I should go for or were you just here to let me know the other poster was right?

Well my first day here not expecting rude responses but encouragement would be nice. Not sarcastic statements. Her wording bothered me. She could have said you have married too often from the same location instead.

9 minutes ago, milimelo said:

You’ll have an uphill battle whichever option you pick. It’s looking like serial immigration of Pakistani nationals. 

😔

I feel offended by the "serial" comment.

The circumstances of each situation is unknown to you.

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I agree, spousal visa is probably the best option, but there may be a bit more scrutiny regardless.

Ok, can you elaborate on what could happen?

Hello. For Pakistan is it better to marry and apply the Spouse Visa or is it okay to just apply for a Fiance Visa if you have already met. Will I have more chances of getting denied if I do the Fiance Visa? A little background information is that the female petitioner is 9 years older and previously married to two other Pakistani nationals who have entered USA. One marriage lasted two years and the other 8.5 years. Can you please advise me of the best type of Visa to apply for in this situation?