NavarreMan

I'll give you that one. There's hope for you yet!

And now insults, better and better and on top of that, absolutely not my point -

And this post has gone to Hades in a hand basket and well away from my original point. Welcome to my world and thanks for helping it go astray.

It would be nice for ya'll to climb off your soap boxes and get back to the topic at hand. I did not throw the gauntlet but I am certainly man enough to pick it up and meet the challenge. If you have useful information, great, if not, start a rant in your own thread. It would seem that OT is designed just for this purpose. So far you and our beloved couple from Texas have not offered one iota of useful information that could in any way be beneficial to the cause of this website or the immigrant seeking helpful information here. You should consider that fact as you continue to post in VJ.

Helpful answers are what was requested. If you can't supply one, I don't need you. Plain and simple. I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?

да, Това́рищ.

Also, that WAS my helpful answer. Is she gonna have a translator with her anytime she's driving, to read the road signs to her?

Further, "I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?", is really craptacular syntax, and I'm not talking about the "can'tcha" part.

It was intentional Einstein!

A helpful answer might include something about the availability of picture tests or Russian language tests in the State of Florida. Your answer was in no way helpful other than making you feel somehow superior. It involved Texas & German situations and is in no way related to Florida Statutes or law.

She won't need a translator to understand roadsigns but it is highly probable that she would have difficulty with "Which way should you turn your wheels when parking facing uphill where there is a curb? Which way should you turn them where there is not a curb?" Now I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking she is not going to see that printed on a road sign.

Stick to what you know. Stay away from things you know nothing about.

Я не ваш друг, я не ваш товарищ, вы тщеславный свинья

A friends wife in Ft Lauderdale was allowed to bring a Russian interpreter.

Know what you mean as my wife did fine with the "signs" part of the exam, but had to take the second written part a couple of times even though her English is great. We came up with a Russian/English version of a driving test somewhere and studied that a lot.

Thank you very much. I will check with the DMV next week to see if they will allow me to be there with her.

(Now that was a helpful answer!)

Where are the tricks in those questions? I can't see any, it's plain and simple. Now, the USA has ONE official language: english. Learning it is part of the immigration process and integration effort. I am sorry but speaking english is more than mandatory when driving, the test is just an anecdote. What if she gets pulled over by the police, will she need an interpreter?

Exactly which Florida Statute makes it mandatory to speak English while driving? She is learning English. She speaks it very well actually. But reading a DMV test is difficult for her. If she did get pulled over by the police I am sure she could communicate well enough to deal with the situation. By your standard, all foreigners who travel to America must speak English to drive. I feel certain there are millions of tourists who a fully capable of handling the task of driving without speaking the English language just as I am capable of driving in numerous countries overseas without speaking their native language.

If you insist on going down this road I encourage you and a couple of others to go and start your own thread about who should or should not have the right to posses a driver's license in America. That is not what this thread is about. It is about an immigrant who is here legally, trying to get information about alternative methods of taking the State of Florida Learners Permit Exam so I can get her on the road and teach her how to drive. This will enable her to become a more productive part of our society, and allow her more freedom to do things she needs to do without depending on me for her transportation. As a matter of fact, it will allow her to drive herself to her ESL classes. I am not alone in this endeavor. There are thousands of people like my wife who are working hard to learn the language and assimilate into our society. And there are folks like you who are eager to prevent that from happening.

Your profile does not specify where you are from but I am guessing that you too are not from Florida and therefore probably have little to offer in the way of constructive advice. Thankfully, there are states out there that recognize that not everyone in the world was born speaking English and there are legal immigrants, who, with a little consideration and help, can become productive members of our society.

I checked the Florida DMV website, and they have the handbook written both in Spanish and English. So I assume they give the test in both languages. Here where I live in North Carolina, the test is given in Arabic, Chinese, Spanish and I believe in Russian too. I know it does not help you whether North Carolina let you take it in different languages or not, but it will give some people an idea that speaking English is not a requirement to drive in the US. Good Luck.

Thanks for the info. Some people will find it helpful I am sure. I hear that they give the Florida test in Spanish also but have not verified that. If that is the case then I have hope that they have devised some way to accommodate other languages as well or face possible discrimination issues. I believe this might be why Nebraska offers the picture test.

In Florida you can only take the test in English or Spanish. I did some research when my husband was going to take his test because he didn't know English when he arrived from Brazil. The DMV allowed him to take the test with a translator (though it couldn't be me) since he couldn't take it in English yet. He did so, but didn't pass - he said he thought that the translator (our neighbor) didn't know how to translate everything very well. So for about a week my husband studied the Spanish test and then passed the computer test and driving test on the same day. I was really proud of him, especially since he speaks Portuguese, not Spanish.

Although I believe that immigrants should learn the language of the country they live in (be it in the U.S. or any other country), I don't think it is fair to expect someone to know the language before/when they arrive. My husband was not working for his first 4 months here because he didn't have his EAD - he was BORED. He was so happy when he got his DL because he gained a lot of freedom and loves to drive. That would not have been possible the first year had he not been allowed to take the test in Spanish (though not his native language).

Yes, this is confusing me. A friend here locally said that 4 years ago she was given the test in Russian but it seems now that they do not do this. The info from our friends in Nebraska is interesting but obviously does not apply here in Florida. Given time and a translation dictionary, Tanya was able to take and pass the on-line 4 hour Drug & Alcohol test that is required by the state. A major accomplishment and I also am very proud of her and her tenacity. It took her all day to do it.

Thanks for your insight and help.

I checked the Florida DMV website, and they have the handbook written both in Spanish and English. So I assume they give the test in both languages. Here where I live in North Carolina, the test is given in Arabic, Chinese, Spanish and I believe in Russian too. I know it does not help you whether North Carolina let you take it in different languages or not, but it will give some people an idea that speaking English is not a requirement to drive in the US. Good Luck.

I thank you for you research on the matter. This too is good and helpful information. Washington State and California have the Drivers Manuals on-line in several languages (including Russian) to help those that qualify by status for drivers licenses. I believe this extends to the exams as well. Your efforts are appreciated.

In NY, they offer the test in Russian as well, but not the manuals (those are only Spanish and English).

Also, in Indiana, the test is only offered in English, but they provide interpreters for certain other languages. This is also a possibility, so you can ask them about that when you call.

Thanks, I printed out the manual from Washington State in both English and Russian so she can study from both. I figured they would be significantly the same with mostly differences in DUI and insurance laws. She's slugging away at it but it is giving her a tough time.

And now insults, better and better and on top of that, absolutely not my point -

Some people are not going to get your point, because it's not the answer they want to hear, and you are not 100% agreeing with them. Therefore, everything you say is wrong.

No - you don't get the point. The answer is not right because it doesn't answer the QUESTION. Perhaps you don't read and understand English as well as you think you do. I never asked if anyone had an opinion about whether she should be able to take the test. I only asked for information if there were alternatives to how she took the test. I guess that is not the question you wanted? All other topics here are without basis and moot as they only reflect rediculous, narrow-minded opinions. Seeing as how you and your clueless SO have seen fit to hijack this thread away from its original post, expect the same. TAR's are being calibrated and it will be an interesting ride for you two.

You had the option of either staying out of this because you had no constructive information to provide or jumping in like an idiot and pronouncing your close-minded opinion and derailing the thread. You chose the latter. And in doing so you have shown that your conceit has no boundaries. Congratulations, many people, now and in the future could have benefited from good, insightful and helpful information to this issue. Perhaps you need to go back and research the history of why this sight was created.

Now do you get the point?

yes somewhat...allot more polite and serious

On-line or off???

Just kidding Bro!

I checked the Florida DMV website, and they have the handbook written both in Spanish and English. So I assume they give the test in both languages. Here where I live in North Carolina, the test is given in Arabic, Chinese, Spanish and I believe in Russian too. I know it does not help you whether North Carolina let you take it in different languages or not, but it will give some people an idea that speaking English is not a requirement to drive in the US. Good Luck.

I thank you for you research on the matter. This too is good and helpful information. Washington State and California have the Drivers Manuals on-line in several languages (including Russian) to help those that qualify by status for drivers licenses. I believe this extends to the exams as well. Your efforts are appreciated.

Kinda sucks having your threads hijacked doesn't it? Get used to it.

n00b

/adds another tool to ignore list

Might as well add all of us. Maybe save yourself some embarrassment

Just the whiny morons.

///and done.

And those with far more experience and worldly knowledge than yourself - oh wait - that would include Eric!

n00b

/adds another tool to ignore list

Might as well add all of us. Maybe save yourself some embarrassment

n00b

Did you guys click on the link above the picture? We do not live ON the boat, we live in this area.

Yes.. was only teasing a bit.

It's actually a nice area - the people are really genuine and friendly.

Unlike some people on this board.

Pot, meet kettle...

too many f##king mozquitoes there..also, no wonder you need a GPS..you get lost hiking 12 klicks trough the woods to your suv

Kindly do piss off.

lol...you are simply easy...

besides been a braggart

I have come to the same conclusion...

Did you guys click on the link above the picture? We do not live ON the boat, we live in this area.

Yes.. was only teasing a bit.

It's actually a nice area - the people are really genuine and friendly.

Apparently not all of them!

Helpful answers are what was requested. If you can't supply one, I don't need you. Plain and simple. I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?

да, Това́рищ.

Also, that WAS my helpful answer. Is she gonna have a translator with her anytime she's driving, to read the road signs to her?

Further, "I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?", is really craptacular syntax, and I'm not talking about the "can'tcha" part.

It was intentional Einstein!

A helpful answer might include something about the availability of picture tests or Russian language tests in the State of Florida. Your answer was in no way helpful other than making you feel somehow superior. It involved Texas & German situations and is in no way related to Florida Statutes or law.

She won't need a translator to understand roadsigns but it is highly probable that she would have difficulty with "Which way should you turn your wheels when parking facing uphill where there is a curb? Which way should you turn them where there is not a curb?" Now I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking she is not going to see that printed on a road sign.

Stick to what you know. Stay away from things you know nothing about.

Я не ваш друг, я не ваш товарищ, вы тщеславный свинья

A friends wife in Ft Lauderdale was allowed to bring a Russian interpreter.

Know what you mean as my wife did fine with the "signs" part of the exam, but had to take the second written part a couple of times even though her English is great. We came up with a Russian/English version of a driving test somewhere and studied that a lot.

Thank you very much. I will check with the DMV next week to see if they will allow me to be there with her.

(Now that was a helpful answer!)

Where are the tricks in those questions? I can't see any, it's plain and simple. Now, the USA has ONE official language: english. Learning it is part of the immigration process and integration effort. I am sorry but speaking english is more than mandatory when driving, the test is just an anecdote. What if she gets pulled over by the police, will she need an interpreter?

Exactly which Florida Statute makes it mandatory to speak English while driving? She is learning English. She speaks it very well actually. But reading a DMV test is difficult for her. If she did get pulled over by the police I am sure she could communicate well enough to deal with the situation. By your standard, all foreigners who travel to America must speak English to drive. I feel certain there are millions of tourists who a fully capable of handling the task of driving without speaking the English language just as I am capable of driving in numerous countries overseas without speaking their native language.

If you insist on going down this road I encourage you and a couple of others to go and start your own thread about who should or should not have the right to posses a driver's license in America. That is not what this thread is about. It is about an immigrant who is here legally, trying to get information about alternative methods of taking the State of Florida Learners Permit Exam so I can get her on the road and teach her how to drive. This will enable her to become a more productive part of our society, and allow her more freedom to do things she needs to do without depending on me for her transportation. As a matter of fact, it will allow her to drive herself to her ESL classes. I am not alone in this endeavor. There are thousands of people like my wife who are working hard to learn the language and assimilate into our society. And there are folks like you who are eager to prevent that from happening.

Your profile does not specify where you are from but I am guessing that you too are not from Florida and therefore probably have little to offer in the way of constructive advice. Thankfully, there are states out there that recognize that not everyone in the world was born speaking English and there are legal immigrants, who, with a little consideration and help, can become productive members of our society.

I'm in California. Picture test is a lot easier than Written Test. They gave me a sheet of paper with large image of the Road Signs after failing my first test. However, have you taught your wife about road rules?

As I remember, one of my test questions "your light is Green and there's pedestrian crossing your path. Who have the right of way?" I answered. Me. ( I asked my SIL, why I'm wrong? My light is green. She laughed real hard.) She said, " They have the right of way. No matter what. Don't run them over." She kindly told me, she doesn't know what I know so I have to ask her. She then taught me about road rules but traffic SIGNS.

I don't think, they will allow you if they do then your wife is fortunate.

Yes, she has learned the rules. If she is asked in Russian she gets them all right. The problem is the switch from the Cyrillic to the Arabic alphabets. Same problem I have learning Russian. Learning Spanish was a breeze. I told her that pedestrians always have the right-of-way but they should remember that tonnage wins every time! We'll find out Tuesday if it is possible for me to be there with her. Thanks for sharing your story. I always find peoples experiences with the immigration process interesting.

Cheers!

Nice to see Russia and Germany still going at it.

I will invest the dime. I missed my chance Friday and will now wait 'til Tuesday. The German's lost the last two also - why should this be any different. Apparently this particular German and it looks like an American too, still hold some concept of a master race. Some people just don't learn from history.

Thanks to those who have offered up good and helpful advice. I guess those that have been at this awhile have learned a little etiquette while the noobs still blunder forth looking like the rude rookies they often are. I figure in a year or two and several boxes of band-aids later this one will have calmed down a little.

Helpful answers are what was requested. If you can't supply one, I don't need you. Plain and simple. I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?

да, Това́рищ.

Also, that WAS my helpful answer. Is she gonna have a translator with her anytime she's driving, to read the road signs to her?

Further, "I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?", is really craptacular syntax, and I'm not talking about the "can'tcha" part.

It was intentional Einstein!

A helpful answer might include something about the availability of picture tests or Russian language tests in the State of Florida. Your answer was in no way helpful other than making you feel somehow superior. It involved Texas & German situations and is in no way related to Florida Statutes or law.

She won't need a translator to understand roadsigns but it is highly probable that she would have difficulty with "Which way should you turn your wheels when parking facing uphill where there is a curb? Which way should you turn them where there is not a curb?" Now I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking she is not going to see that printed on a road sign.

Stick to what you know. Stay away from things you know nothing about.

Я не ваш друг, я не ваш товарищ, вы тщеславный свинья

A friends wife in Ft Lauderdale was allowed to bring a Russian interpreter.

Know what you mean as my wife did fine with the "signs" part of the exam, but had to take the second written part a couple of times even though her English is great. We came up with a Russian/English version of a driving test somewhere and studied that a lot.

Thank you very much. I will check with the DMV next week to see if they will allow me to be there with her.

(Now that was a helpful answer!)

Helpful answers are what was requested. If you can't supply one, I don't need you. Plain and simple. I bet you can understand that English now can'tcha?

OK - I have searched VJ and half the internet and have not found an answer to my question so I will put it to you learned people:

Does Florida offer a "picture test" for the driver’s license exam?

Just spoke with a friend who is also married to a Russian speaking woman and they live in Nebraska. Apparently they went to the DMV today and she was given a test with a bunch of photo based scenarios and had to identify if what was happening in the photo was correct (in the driving sense) or not. My wife has mastered the sign portion of the test but the poorly worded and often misleading questions are kicking her behind.

Do any of you out there have any experience with this problem or know if there is either a "picture test" or if the test is offered in Russian? My local office swears that it is offered only in English or Spanish (methinks this be discrimination!)

Please help if you can...

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Just think - one day we will all be the people we are complaining about here!

This one is a little easier to see!

And Cheney has one very large point. Since the sneak attack on September 11, 2001, America has not suffered another violent terrorist episode on its soil. That is not in dispute, and the former vice president believes tough interrogations and aggressive anti-terror moves were the cornerstones of the shield.

But the toll on human life has been staggering - 4,266 US military dead as of April 6, 2009 and an unverifiable amount of civilian lives have been lost, likely near 100,000, perhaps in the hundreds of thousands. As long as Cheney is right and Obama is wrong then all is well with the world. Is that your point? That the terrorists, who are now more determined and in greater numbers than ever before have not managed a strike on our soil? Why should they - we're sending the Americans to them. It's Ok as long as it is not your precious head they're shooting at.

Cold fusion and fusion is two different subjects.

#######... you guys trying to establish a basis for E1 visas???