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5 minutes ago, missileman said:

Did they allow her to withdraw her request to enter the US?

I have no idea. she said they gave her papers to sign but she hadn't read them yet to know what exactly they say

7 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Ok, I didn’t see the correct year, sorry

fact remains CBP is entitled to do what they did on suspicion of her motives. She wasn’t the first and won’t be the last to get cancelled for trying spend too much time here without being able to convince CBP it’s genuine tourism.  They don’t need “just cause”. She can try get a new B visa at the consulate but realistically my last conclusion stands - you’re visiting Colombia or she needs a different visa. 

Susie, we didn't have plans to marry yet but of course it was an option in the future. But as I wrote before, I wonder if this would affect a k1 application? If you know.

5 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Seems the OP is really struggling with the fact that non-immigrant visas can be revoked just like that.

yes he is. a visa from Colombia is hard to get and hers was never abused. that's my problem, she never abused or violated the terms.

she didn't do anything wrong. I think its very unfair that just like that its gone without real cause.

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

 

 

She’s spending too much time in the US, that’s why. Here for 5 months, gone for 4 (?), back for 70 days... rule of thumb to stop situations exactly like this is to spend twice as much time out of the US as in. So after her 5 month stay leaving in August, she shouldn’t have tried to  come back before June. Work issues aside (we are not stupid and neither is CBP, we know exactly what you meant) that alone is valid reason for CBP to say she seems to be “living” here. I’m assuming all or most of the time here is staying with you, not non-stop touring around, hmm?

 

no one other than a USC has a right to be granted entry to the US. Looks like either you’re visiting Colombia or applying for a K1.

your math is wrong, or you didn't see the correct years. 5 month stay was in 2017

@carmel34,  thanks for reply

6 minutes ago, milimelo said:

She probably has intending immigrant code in her passport - 212 a 7 I think? 

I will ask her to look for that. where might it be located?

3 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Denial at POE on a B2, the officer does not have to explain why entry was denied, or even why the B2 was cancelled.  Sounds like the main reason was the five month stay before, then wanting to stay for two months this trip, plus she has a boyfriend in the US, and because she owns a business she has no reason to return to Colombia anytime soon.  Weak ties to her home country.  Love interest in the US.  All of that looks like intent to stay, marry you, and adjust status, which is visa fraud.

thanks for reply. well said.

1 minute ago, Cryssiekins said:

Honestly, at this point you need to stop

trying to convince everyone here that you were wronged, somehow. 

 

 

 

I never said I was wronged. this thread has taken a turn completely away from my question actually.

as I said,.. I understand they were suspicious, but how can they cancel her visa without just cause? she did not violate the terms of her visa.

they can deny entry if they think she might, yes. but cancel it????  that don't seem right.

2 minutes ago, JFH said:

Let us suppose for a minute that she was successfully admitted for 70 days. What exactly was she planning to do all that time? Especially if you are going to continue working each week? How much money did she have with her? Why 70 days? What would happen to her job back home during that time?

as I said, spend time with family and friends, we had various activities planned.

money with her,,,  not sure.

70 days was just a number. I mean, she was staying until end of march, just turned out to be 70 days.

3 minutes ago, Starkilla09 said:

JFH is absolutely right you laid it out here. Sounds like she didn’t even have adequate finances to cover her lengthy trip without resorting to unauthorized employment that’s why she asked about cleaning houses for extra money. She threw a scent trail to CBP once she said she will like to stay for 70 days. Though CBP can lawfully admit an alien on B-2 visa for up to 180 days, it’s not necessarily a good idea to come and stay that long as it can weaken your non-immigrant intent.

 

Truth is genuine visitors with real ties back home don’t have the luxury of staying that long abroad on vacation. If you and I for example were to take trips overseas chances are it will be just a couple of weeks max because we have strong ties back here such as jobs to return to. As for the appeal you should understand there’s none and visitors don’t have such as technically they’re “not yet” in the country when presenting themselves at the U.S. port of entry asking for admission.

well said, however the work thing is irrelevant. that was a private conversation between her and I. I originally  only ask it out of curiosity.

to your other point,  yes. that makes sense. but business owners do have more freedom than those who work for someone else.

No @JFH, you are quite wrong but think as you want.

@Boiler, she has her own business in Colombia, subcontracting making shoes.

This question has nothing to do with working actually. It was about a revocation of a visa for living here. work was never an issue with the CBP therefore I will not comment any more about that subject.

Yes CBP has a right to deny entry for suspicion. I don't see they have a right to cancel her visa without any evidence. when in fact their own records prove the contrary to what they said.  Being here 5 moths in the last 2+ years does not constitute living here. 

3 minutes ago, JFH said:

Only USCs are guaranteed entry into the country. Everyone must ask permission and hope that the permission is granted. On this occasion, it was not granted. Their house, their rules. Just as you gave the right to refuse a stranger admission into your home. You don’t even need to give a reason. She was at least given a reason which is more than someone would get from me if they showed up at my front door and were not welcome. 

 

The fact that that she asked you about “cleaning houses” strongly suggests that she couldn’t afford to finance the “vacation” without some form of work (not permitted) and also was not here “just to visit”. It’s not normal to want to clean other people’s homes on vacation. Call me old fashioned but my vacations are about relaxation away from work. Not scrubbing someone else’s bathroom. If that’s a vacation, I’ll stay at the office, thank you.

you are in fact wayyyyy of base.

First it isn't a question of whether or not she must be allowed. It a question of cancelling her visa, her right to petition for entry without just cause.
Second, she ask me about cleaning as a matter of something to occupy her time while I was at work and get a little money. additionally a way of spending time with members of my family.  

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Does she clean houses in Columbia?

no

2 minutes ago, Roel said:

No idea. Probably depends on all the possible lies on the application and/or when talking to the cbp.

she had no reason to lie, and I don't believe she did. she said she was coming to visit friends. (including my family and other friends we have here) they ask how long she would stay, she said 70 days. she said that was what perked their interest.
still the fact remains how can they cancel her visa for living here when she is not living here and that is obvious by the arrival/departure records

3 minutes ago, missileman said:

Hmm.....if she told them that she has a BF/GF in the US, then that would be grounds for suspecting she might have intent stay in the US and adjust status.....which is illegal.....

while I concur this might raise suspicion, she was told her visa was cancelled FOR LIVING IN THE US. which is not true.

I also wonder if this would affect a k1 application if we decided in the future to apply

Just now, missileman said:

did she ask them about working?

I had already told her she couldn't work. I only ask the question to be sure.
No. she said they ask her if she had worked during her last visit and she told them no. Nothing else was said about it.

5 minutes ago, missileman said:

She can apply for another B2, but there is no chance of success.....imo.  I think there is more to the story than what you posted in this thread.

If there is more I am not aware of it

1 minute ago, missileman said:

To answer your question, a visitor to the US via a B2 can NOT do any kind of work....period.......

that question was answered. thx.

My gf entering from Colombia yesterday for a visit of 70 days was pulled aside for in depth interview. She told them the truth, was coming to visit me and my family. She has made 2 trips here in the past. The last was aug. 2017. she returned to Colombia Jan. 2018. 5 months, no overstay.  Before that was one month in 2016. CBP CANCELLED her visa and returned her to Colombia. They wrote across the face in ink cancelled several times. They said she violated the terms of her visa because she was living here. In the past 2 years she was here a total of 5 months. that is not living here!!  IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO? Have a review or an appeal for example. We/She have not done anything wrong or contrary to the terms of the visa.

no haters please. we are devastated. A visa from Colombia is very difficult to receive. They told her she could apply for another but I feel that would be a waste of time and money.

and to address my other post before I get questions...…. It was a curious question because she ask if she could clean houses of family members while she was here.

I know work is not allowed. but would they revoke visa for cleaning a few houses?

forgive me if this is out there but I couldn't find it.
If a person is here on a b2 visa and does odd jobs like clean houses a few times, If they admit to that work do they lose their visa?