SunDrop

I am so glad there's a kibosh on those long azzed mutli quotes cos they were a pita. However, I think the limit should be two, not one.
For instance...someone quotes me, then I wanna quote them...but when I do so, it removes my original quote, so it loses some of the context.
Gah...here's the example:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/259186-voice-mail-case/page__gopid__3978070entry3978070
Anyhoo, I think the new limit should be two!

That was totally uncalled for.

LOL - Please don't take this inappropriately, but you're cute I tell Ry this whenever he makes me smile with his nutty sense of humour. And this is exactly the sort of thing he'd say.
I can only send you ((hugs)) and do a NOA2 dance for you. And tell you how your tough army persona is going to be brought to tears, or near as, when you see that change or heck, open your mailbox one day and find a letter sitting there coz they haven't updated your case online.
And out of respect, coz you're an awesome, supportive asset to VJ, I'm turning my sig off for this post!

Actually, it's not. How's this for a lunatic example, for the sake of which I'm already married to my USC fiance:
We decide we're going to live in Europe. To get him into the UK as a LPR, I have to pay several £100s for a spousal visa application. Granted, it only takes a couple weeks to adjudicate, but meeting some of the qualifying criteria is nigh on impossible to gauge. There are no official cut-offs for income required, for example.
However, we could opt to live in Ireland (Republic of, not Northern). I literally get on a plane, land, rent a house, get a job and require absolutely no paperwork. I can do this as an EU citizen. My USC spouse gets on a plane bound for Dublin, with our marriage certificate and when he lands, announces that he's joining his EU wife. 90 days VWP and all he has to do by the expiration is pop into our local police station and register as resident there. Couple of weeks later, he gets a resident's permit through the door. No visa, no EAD, no AP...
It's absolutely insane that I have to jump through moveable hoops to live with my VWP eligible spouse in my own country when we could live in the neighbouring country in the time and money it takes to get a plane from AZ to Dublin...
I'm sure this is going to be contentious, but I'm curious to know what other VJers make of the idea that there should be a more streamlined and/or expeditious K-1/ CR-1 service for VWP eligible nationals. Could it be argued that if someone can have a level of trust/ absence of scrutiny when visiting a country, the same should be extended when they want to live in the US with their USC spouse. Absolutely, check our USC fiance/ees or spouses don't fall under the AWA. Absolutely, demand police checks, medical and financial assurances. But is the rest of it as necessary?

Actually, it's not. How's this for a lunatic example, for the sake of which I'm already married to my USC fiance:
We decide we're going to live in Europe. To get him into the UK as a LPR, I have to pay several £100s for a spousal visa application. Granted, it only takes a couple weeks to adjudicate, but meeting some of the qualifying criteria is nigh on impossible to gauge. There are no official cut-offs for income required, for example.
However, we could opt to live in Ireland (Republic of, not Northern). I literally get on a plane, land, rent a house, get a job and require absolutely no paperwork. I can do this as an EU citizen. My USC spouse gets on a plane bound for Dublin, with our marriage certificate and when he lands, announces that he's joining his EU wife. 90 days VWP and all he has to do by the expiration is pop into our local police station and register as resident there. Couple of weeks later, he gets a resident's permit through the door. No visa, no EAD, no AP...
It's absolutely insane that I have to jump through moveable hoops to live with my VWP eligible spouse in my own country when we could live in the neighbouring country in the time and money it takes to get a plane from AZ to Dublin...
I'm sure this is going to be contentious, but I'm curious to know what other VJers make of the idea that there should be a more streamlined and/or expeditious K-1/ CR-1 service for VWP eligible nationals. Could it be argued that if someone can have a level of trust/ absence of scrutiny when visiting a country, the same should be extended when they want to live in the US with their USC spouse. Absolutely, check our USC fiance/ees or spouses don't fall under the AWA. Absolutely, demand police checks, medical and financial assurances. But is the rest of it as necessary?

What's interesting about a census vs. no census debate is that it's not just for current matters that it serves purpose but it makes for a fascinating record of trends of all kinds for future generations. Anyone who's ever done any genealogy will know exactly what I'm talking about.
It was through the 1891, 1901 and 1911 UK censi (?) that we discovered that my paternal great grandfather had actually had 3 wives, not 2 that we knew of. The first 2 had died and the 3rd wife was widowed when he passed. My father's mother was the last born of the 3rd wife, he'd been extremely successful as the local stone mason but there'd always been this story about someone accusing my paternal grandmother of 'stealing' the family money. Turns out that it was the son of his 2nd wife who objected to the children of the 3rd wife inheriting the estate.
I also was able to learn that I lost a great uncle in WWI, who'd gone to war with his brother both as medics. Thanks to census-talking, I have been able to map the journeys of both sides of my family either from Ireland in the early 1800s or way back to where we were servants of the Knights Templar.
At first I was disappointed that US census is happening now, because we'll have just 'missed' it. But I realised that with the UK one happening next year, my future generations will be able to work out nearly to the quarter when we emigrated. The fact that we've missed the US census means that we must have still been in the UK and the fact that we're not on the UK census (that is usually in January) means we must have left before it was taken. It's fun to think that we're leaving a kind of mystery for them to uncover, because it's really good fun discovering these things!
I also like the fact that my daughter, who's classed as 'mixed white British/ African' here will start showing a gradual trend towards more inter-racial relationships. It irks the ####### out of me that she'll be considered 'black' in the US, except that she'll have access to all kinds of scholarships and grants that she otherwise wouldn't!
Capturing income/ employment information is also interesting to look back on generations down the line. I've always wondered if any of my maternal ancestors worked on the Titanic, since they were ship-riveters in Liverpool and Newcastle. It's neat to be able to figure out that my grandfather didn't get called to draft in WWII because he was a school teacher.
It's also a really important piece of information for broader historical and sociological learning. How else did they reliably know the real figures of Holocaust deaths, if it weren't for census-taking?
In short, I really fail to understand why people are so anti-census taking. It's a way of leaving a bit of our legacy for future generations.

Would be an IR-1, since they've been married 2+ years.