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38 minutes ago, geowrian said:

A misrepresentation bar is permanent, but can be waived via an I-601. When AP completes, if they refuse the visa due to this inadmissibility, it should include a letter stating that you are eligible to apply for an I-601 hardship waiver. ETA: ~1 year or so.

 

Maybe I missed it, but was the tourist visa approved? If not, it may not have been deemed a material misrepresentation since you were denied the visa anyway.

It certainly is cause for them not to believe anything that is not also be proven via evidence moving forward, though.

you mean if they did not write in my paper 221g about misrepresentation they do not mean it in my case?

Do I understand right?

Tourist visa was denied

35 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

All possible actions from American side (including whether or not ban may be imposed) shall be discussed with your American legal representative. We do not have that specific qualifications and knowledge. I mean, after your Ukrainian attorney fixes all divorce and ZAGS bugs and supplies an affidavit, have your American attorney look into it from misrep point of view. Then s/he may want to shed some light upon whether or not you qualify for a ban or something 

thank you 

5 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

This is purely US immigration attorney's piece of cake. To my understanding, you misrepresent and you get an action, say a ban. Maybe you can appeal, maybe file a waiver (if legally possible) next time you apply for a visa, maybe wait if the ban disqualifies you for a finite period of time. Maybe misrepresenting may end in ban for life, if there are conditions as to gravity. This should be clearly defined by US immigration law. But if you get not an action but a record in your file, which you have already got for sure, it may impede your subsequent applications for all kinds of visas. Which means you must be very well prepared and 10 times better than simply eligible with your documents and interviews.

but they told me "give us this document and you do not have to come to embassy again anymore".

Is it ban?

Logically there are no chance to have once more interview...

Is it possible to have a ban if I said not correct information about my marriage status?  It was the only which was not correct in all dialog.

PS: About attorneys -totally agree

5 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Comes from a lawyer

I think I will do it. will see what will be.  It sounds great to me.

Ok.

But maybe someone knows how is possible to mitigate circumstances about lie? 

Still. If without blaming...there has to be something.. letter or something like that?

13 minutes ago, Ksenia_O said:

Hah?....Can't really explain that. I've thought everybody has already learnt - never lie to a government or any Embassy. Or even better - no lies at all, but it's in a perfect world  - I get it.

 

All info gets recorded and stays in the system. Plus - GB, USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada share the date.  You misrepresent yourself before one Embassy - you are pretty much done then with other four. The same with any EU Embassies.

 

But seems like there will always be people who believe agencies or an immigration attorney can make a miracle.. Which is obviously  not true. 

 

Anyway, girl, once again -  good luck to you and hope you'll have your approval after your provide the Embassy with the document. 

you are right. Believe or not few years ago I swear never to come back to that embassy... You see how  destiny plays ... ))))))))))😀

Now I am ready for all for my best ever man )))

14 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

There are different forms, at least a short one and an extended one. They want a most extended form possible in your case. Your attorney should know.

yes. I have it already. Thanks )

13 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Yeah, your situation is very complicated and different from mine. Marriage, kids, I petitioned for divorce, got my decree with no need to have it subsequently registered as it was after 2010. Essentially, one document from court. What I would have done in your situation: get your attorney draft an affidavit chronologically describing what happened in which consequence and why. If he is an  адвокат, ask him/her to make it on his/her official letterhed and attest a personal stamp along with a 'wet signature'. And enclose all that stuff. I have read about complicated cases where the CO put the applicant in AP and request a judicial review or something from the USCIS lawyers. It takes time but it is well worth it. The CO will have their answers and you will not look doubtful to them.

interesting idea....by the way...

15 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Full extract about marriage - is it довідка про дошлюбне прізвище  из ЗАГСа? They particularly mention it on their website if your original marriage certificate was withheld by court in divorce proceedings (my case). I plan to apply for one as soon as we get NOA2

As to Crimean papers, they also particularly mention that no documents from Crimea will be accepted if dated after 2014. This also should be clear to that guy

No in the list of documents is "extract". And after interview they asked "FULL EXTRACT". ))) I even did not know that is it before that ))

4 minutes ago, Ksenia_O said:

well... I was divorced through court and have a child. As many  others. It has nothing to do with K1 visa approval or denial.

 

 I'm really sorry and I hate to say that but I still believe the main issue is that "mismatch" of the info you provided on DS-160 for B1 visa 3 years ago and now, for K1 - the Embassy does't really take well any misrepresentations/lies. 

 

The only thing you can do now is - to provide the info the Embassy requested and wait, hoping for the best...

 

P.S. When my parents started thinking about applying for B1/B2 visa, they also were "advised" to use those agencies, to present great savings on their bank account for example. Parents denied the "offer" right away and went for an interview without any fake bank statements - they represented themselves with what they had which was not really much, average Ukraininan older couple.  That's it. Got approval for 10 years B1/B2 visa at the spot.

 

I'm not judging or something, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes.   I really hope everything will work out for you, girl, and you'll have your approval... Fingers crossed. 

thank you.

I am sure that I am not a single person who used agencies.

Otheways why consulting of immigrant attorney in Kiev costs 250euro and there is a line till 2nd of october....

5 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

I am not sure I am getting it right: I am divorced in court due to having 2 minor children. I have a divorce decree (рішення суду) which is the only document which certifies my divorce and that it is final. It must not be additionally registered anywhere and is good from the moment it became valid (it bears a stamp with that date). It is not from Crimea. My divorce was done through an attorney as I lived in another city, separated from my ex husband. The divorce decree describes my situation about how the marriage failed and can not be fixed - to the extent the judge preferred to do it. Is a valid court decree not enough? Do they want you to copy the whole court case (судова справа) or what is it that they want? What is wrong with having children, why is an attorney necessary? 

 

So. 

I have one child 8 years old. I was divorced by court without me (my ex husband did it in another city) at 2005. He got certificate about it at 2009. 

I did not know about it. My childs information about her father was -my ex husband. 

That is why I started court - for divorce and making me as single mother. 

When I wanted to get divorce certificate-they told- ok. but you are already divorced and we will write inside certificate that you are divorced at 2009 because of at note from 2005. Certificate they gave at 2012.

So many dates confused officer. 

That is why she asked me a full extract about marriage- where will be explaining why and what means every date.

BUT

here is a one problem. In this full extract are more dates which probably can confuse officer even more. For to explain them -I have 10 documents more.  If you will look at all that all that documents you will have any questions about me, child, dates etc.

So I have no idea- to give them tomorrow all 10. or to give only one which they ask

16 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

The bigger issue than the current K-1 would be a potential misrepresentation bar, which would affect any future immigrant visas for you.   What does the paper they gave you say?

some information about my divorce about court- calls here full extract about marriage. I already have it. I inly donnow what is better- to give only this or to give all logic line about my divorce process- which includes court decisions, full extracts , government papers etc.

I think what is worse to give not enough of documents and to wait about next asking of documents or to give more what they asked. Difficult to say..

5 hours ago, Jenna Ting said:

That sounds aweful ! Sorry for that! But what's the problem with the date of your divorce certificate? How can you fix it? I hope they give you approval after you send them what they ask for

thank you. yes to get paper was easy. I already have it.

17 hours ago, HP+IC said:

I am yet far from interview in Kiev, but from what I read here, Kiev is not very difficult and this situation is not typical. Apart from misrepresenting, there should have been other issues, and CO could have thought God knows what else could have been concealed. Otherwise why would they be so interested in your private life. On the other hand, immigrants are as your gyn, there is no taboo when they ask. Not knowing what you misrepresented 3 years ago, not knowing about possible other red flags, not knowing what the issues with the divorce decree are, nit knowing details of the interview it is difficult to predict what happens next. If they gave you a list of what they want, do your best to provide it. It's good that they haven't outright denied you. And whatever happens, you must be very careful with what you do next. Good luck. 

yes. Before interview I also tried to look for bad reviews. It was so  good feeling. But. When I was there all embassy was empty.  250 ppl for tourist visas were applied at that day. And all they already gone. Before me was a man who wanted K1 visa- his visa was totally rejected. Because he did not get enough of proof of relations and his divorce certificate was from Crimea. Noone saw it. Will he demonstrate it? who knows.. I do not want to scare you. But be sure not only about american documents which are perfect in our case because of our american attorney . But if ukrainian fiancee (e) was divorced after court, applied for tourist visa not succesful, has children -better to talk with ukrainian immigrant attorney too.

I had interview few days ago.

I got status of case - in administrative processing

I can say only that after that I can not describe how I feel. As minimum unmoral person. But

First issue was not the same information in tourist visa 3 years ago. As its common I used for this agency for preparing documents. So they told that I have more chances to get visa if I will say that I am in civil relations as single. I did it. At the interview they told that I am a lier . I am criminal person. And they have any reason to believe me now. Our attorney said its better to say all truth now- because can be worse- so I did it. They asked many details about my personal life since I was married 10 years ago including who paid for traveling which I had in Europe, which boyfriend I had etc- I say such things only to really close friends. But I answered all that questions. 

Second issue was with dates in documents in divorce certificate which I can fix with local attorney hope not hard.  They asked me to send this paper to them.

Questions:

1. Is there any chance that that visa can be approved?

2. Maybe better not wait and to make another kind of visa? for family? it can take 1.5-2 years and who knows maybe they will do again such things as checking me like that....

3. Share your experience about pink paper PLEASE. time which it was, how long etc.

4. Can I send this paper which they need and plus something that can prove that I am honest with them now. Any ideas?

5. What can you recommend? Maybe you already met such situation. Will be happy about all information- thank you.

Just now, Ahmed&Freda said:

Story is still in the making....We are scheduled for a second interview on October 23rd.  

how did they give you possibility to have another interview?  did they say about it during first one?

On 12/23/2017 at 11:58 PM, Ahmed&Freda said:

My husband and I went through the same thing at our interview last week.  They mocked my husband to other coworkers in the building and laughed at me as if I was a poor naive girl.  I know its their job and they are trying to protect the American but they completely unprofessional about it.  As I stood up for my husband one of them folded his arms and shook his head.   I do however feel like they have a heart...i wish I could have taken a picture of their faces when they said they were going to recommended it for denial.  I felt like the air left my body and they looked at me with such pity.   I pray that haunts them in their sleep.   My husband is my best friend I can't live without him.

 

Congratulations on your husbands visa!!  So happy to finally hear a happy ending! 

 

~Freda

and how did your story finished?

10 hours ago, HP+IC said:

I am there totally with you. I can not comprehend how basic information on two applications could turn out different apart from, e.g., then employed and now unemployed, then single (and not having relatives in the US) and now engaged (and thus having at least a fiance there). That is, if you are honest every time, truth is truth and it doesn't alter itself however often repeated. On the other hand, immigration is a long process and requires a tremendous amount of thoughtful paperwork, some of which is partly repeated and some eventually evolves from a previous stage. Knowing that, my naturalized USC fiance gave me a 1TB external hard disk and requested that I save literally every piece of paperwork we file. That is, at this stage with my I-129F I have all that I may need later and 5 years later I will not be in doubt what, when and why did I state in the forms. I quess it's never late to start saving useful information.

thank you!

yes you totally understand!

we are waiting for interview soon -so I worry a lot)) 

It can be great if someone who was in such situation can also write. More experience more confident ))

10 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

By the way, here is the list for the interview file. It is not particularly accurate to me, since court divorces do not need divorce certificates as of 2010, but never the less. As to birth registration based on mother's statement, they should have had experience with that, but again, I would have written them an email to be sure.

Interview-checklist-K1 (1).pdf

thank  you. I got a link about it after I got letter from NVC

10 hours ago, HP+IC said:

Look at the child as a separate applicant and cross out what does not apply. What does, in my opinion, is: birth certificate, passport, photos, affidavit of support,  father's consent letter (if the child has legally defined living father) medical and DS-160 submission/interview appointment confirmation, maybe bank slip as well. If there is a father on a birth certificate and he is not deceased (need proof) the Embassy will specifically request his consent for the child to immigrate and not just travel. In my case, my ex husband is a legal father to my child born within wedlock and my divorce decree establishes my full custody over my son, he lives 'with mother wherever she may live'. This is definitely not enough for K2 and I absolutely need my ex's notarized consent. Maybe your case is different. I am a lawyer but not a family law specialist and may recommend that you must 

absolutrely know what you are doing well in advance and be able to legally prove it or seek advice from a family law specialist. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

thank you. 

6 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Kiev embassy website says separate files for every DS-160 applicant. There will be 2 of you, that means 2 separate files to me. It makes sense since the kid's file is different and much shorter than yours. At least that is what I am going to do for me and my son, 13. What I am less sure about, is the Affidavit of support. It is possible that your fiance fills separate forms for the two of you and doubles enclosures but it doesn't make sense to me and may well be confusing to him. This is something we'd better hear from someone who's been there and done that. The main thing is father's consent. This makes me totally confused because it must refer to immigration and постійне місце проживання, whereas technically an approved K1/K2 does not leave Ukraine for good but only for 90 days with an opportunity to never come back. Do we need a separate one at the border saying temporary travel?

 

 

Well about border I know a little more. I gonna take my court documents, divorce certificate, and certificate about my rights to the child-where is a sentence that child has name from my words. 

But I about exactly interview  have no idea... 

🙄

6 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Kiev embassy website says separate files for every DS-160 applicant. There will be 2 of you, that means 2 separate files to me. It makes sense since the kid's file is different and much shorter than yours. At least that is what I am going to do for me and my son, 13. What I am less sure about, is the Affidavit of support. It is possible that your fiance fills separate forms for the two of you and doubles enclosures but it doesn't make sense to me and may well be confusing to him. This is something we'd better hear from someone who's been there and done that. The main thing is father's consent. This makes me totally confused because it must refer to immigration and постійне місце проживання, whereas technically an approved K1/K2 does not leave Ukraine for good but only for 90 days with an opportunity to never come back. Do we need a separate one at the border saying temporary travel?

 

 

which documents have to be in childs second packet if to think logically? 

Good day. Can you please help me- I need to prepare two separate packets of documents for interview or I can use one? (Child will come with me in one time)

Logically from instructions I can say needs one but how you did? Better to ask once more.

Which moments I have to know about making interview with a child 8 years old and about preparing documents for her? 

Thank you for any help. 

And luckiness for all. )

Hi guys. So for interview needs scans or originals????

Its a very important question by the way....

Thank you for answer

17 hours ago, Little_Vixen said:

Just got approved!!!!!! 

Visa will be ready for pickup in the next 10 days

congrats!!!!!!  You really deserve it!

1 hour ago, Little_Vixen said:

On my way to the consulate 😁

Good luck!

On 8/10/2018 at 6:05 PM, Ksenia_O said:

I think  if you don't remember the reason of your B1/B2 denial, then the answer should be the same - I do not remember.  Honest and simple.

I  love this answer!!!

Thank you very much!!