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Just now, *BestDayEver0425* said:

I have been searching for the same answer.  Our case was returned to USCIS and I suspect we will receive NOIR as well, we just haven't yet but I want to be prepared for it. 

Best Wishes on this journey, it may be long, it may be bumpy ....... but it is worth it!☺️

Thank you, Best Day Ever... your words of encouragement mean the world to me! It has been a bit bumpy but we are extremely focused on the positive, knowing that regardless of what happens, we will eventually be together and all will be well. 💓

45 minutes ago, *BestDayEver0425* said:

Here are some formatting examples, not specifically to the immigration however I think that the actual guideline is appropriate for most rebuttals. Others can chime in with their thoughts............

• One main point I read was don't accuse, rather make them understand with you written response and supporting evidence
• Also coordinate your evidence in the order of each point you respond to. 
• Be sure to highlight the important facts in the evidence that support your case
• I also agree that you should  be sure to include what Ahmed&Freda said

 

How Do You Format a Rebuttal Letter?

A typical rebuttal letter contains the following issues:

Name of the Addressed

The addressed is the person whom you are writing the letter to. It is this person whom you have a dispute with and whom you would like to set the records straight. This person could be a trader, teacher, lawyer, friend, or employer, to mention but a few!

Date

All written communications have to be dated for the sake of easy future reference. This is why it is imperative that you include the date on the letter. Needless to say, the date has to truly reflect the actual time and day you wrote the letter.

Main Body

This is the most important portion of the letter. It is this portion that contains the arguments that you are putting forth to counter the initial allegations or accusations. It is necessary to be concise and courteous throughout. Any deviation from this standard may often inflict undesirable consequences.

Your Name and Signature

Lastly, you have to write your name underneath the letter. This is proof that you are the one who authored the letter and are hence in agreement with its contents. You also have to append your signature in between your name and the closing remarks.

How Do You Write a Rebuttal Letter?

While drafting the letter, there are some things you have to care about. In the first paragraph of the letter, you have to identify yourself. You have to draw a connection between the person you are addressing and you.

For instance, if you are addressing your tutor, remind him of who you are and how the two of you are related. This will let him ‘get the point’ much faster than he would. It also eliminates unnecessary ambiguities given that he handles many students at a time and may hence not be in the position to recall you in person.

In the second paragraph of the letter, you have to officially deny the decision reached beforehand. This could take the forms of official complaints of the service or a repudiation of an earlier assertion. While at it, you have to provide tangible proof and evidence to back up your allegations or stance.

Lastly, in the final paragraph, you have to lodge a formal request in pursuance to the issues you had identified earlier. This could take the forms of a refund, a reconsideration of an earlier stance, or a review of the decision altogether. Finish the letter by signing and dating it.

 

Tips for Writing a Rebuttal Letter

• Always be polite and professional. Remember, that even though you may be in disagreement with your employer, they will be more receptive to your point of view if you present your point in an open and amicable way.
• Specifically address the points that you disagree with. Your employer will need to know exactly where the discrepancies in their evaluation and your opinion lie.
• Provide Evidence. If you are in disagreement with your employer, they don’t only want to hear why you feel that way, they want to see it. If you provide solid visible evidence, there is little that they can do to dispute your argument.
• Close with a brief summary of your rebuttal. You want to make sure that your key points are driven home

 

Beautiful... thank you so much!!!!

2 hours ago, adil-rafa said:

my above reply was too abrupt and i just spent over an hour searching the internet every which way possible with questions like "how do i write a letter to respond to a NOIR?"

every site took me to an attorney that explained what a NOIR was

 

the very best thing i read is the following:

 

The Consular Officer explains the negative information in writing and sends the file back to the United States. USCIS evaluates those concerns and will then issue a Notice of Intent to Revoke (NOIR). The NOIR details the problems encountered at the visa interview – maybe there was conflicting information or the foreign national doesn’t know enough about the U.S. citizen.

Typically, you have 30 days to respond to the NOIR. You have to show USCIS why your I-130 petition should stay approved and why the Consular Officer made the wrong decision. If you’re successful, the case will be sent back to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate and a second visa interview will be arranged.

 

it goes on to say 

you have only 30 days and that means USCIS must receive the letter and proofs within 30 days (not a day longer)

and that this is your only chance to submit proofs of the relationship that USCIS will not look at anything mailed after the 30 days (or in separate letters)

 

I had a NOID not NOIR so i wrote a good brief and i numbered the 2 issues (did not know what books i  read and would make me convert to Islam)

then i outlined my answers and sent rebuttal with proofs sending  in emails dated years before that interview showing he did not request me to convert and that we talked about the difference in literature (even explaining the word literature) between the 2 countries 

 

I find that emails prove a lot more than chats as the date of the email is easily seen

good luck to you

Thank you! That is very helpful also... I think I have a pretty good idea of how to proceed.

16 minutes ago, Amadia said:

You may be LOL-ing now, but immigration is no laughing matter.

They have already 'told' you what they require and you are aware: prove your relationship is bonafide in your response

Can you not write a letter proving your relationship is true and genuine? 😕

I didn’t say it is a laughing matter! And yes! I can and have written a letter. Again, I was merely asking for format suggestions. 

9 hours ago, *BestDayEver0425* said:

 

 

I totally understand. Possibly the responses are base on others thinking you want to know what their responses were, rather than the actual arrangement of the letter, how to use the proper verbiage and how to assemble the rebuttal.  I have not prepared one and agree that there are limited resources on the actual assembly here or on the web, I looked around a bit.

Yes, that is accurate. Obviously I wasn’t as clear in my request as I wanted to be... but, you live and you learn. Thank you for even confirming in regards to resources. I appreciate it! 

6 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

Do you mean the rebuttal?   As other have stated it is case specific.   Organization is key.   The NOIR has listed  points from the counselors notes.  I listed our rebuttal in the same order beginning each number with the point in the NOIR and finishing with our response and/or listing evidence.   I compiled my evidence behind the rebuttal and numbered them to make it easier to match them up.  

Ok thanks so much!! Yes, I meant the rebuttal. I appreciate your detailed response! 

1 hour ago, adil-rafa said:

Your time to respond to a NOIR is limited / usually 30 days so gather your proofs to dispute each issue

time spent finding out what we can tell you is wasted time as none of us are witnesses to your relationship and what has happened and what the embassy has a problem with

this is up to you to prove your points and disprove their's 

this is not meant to be harsh but meant to make you move fast to answer the NOIR

the # of days to answer can be 30 or 30 business or 60 but still any of those goes by too quickly

get cracking

I’ve already begun the process of responding. I just wasn’t sure as to what needed to be included in terms of format. I don’t believe it is a waste of time to seek clarity from others who have experienced this. Isn’t that what Visa Journey is about? Helping and supporting others who are going through the process? I was encouraged to post and ask my peers for help in this forum. That’s all... was just seeing if there was an example in terms of formatting. 

2 hours ago, geowrian said:

A NOIR will list why they intend to revoke the petition (i.e. not a bona fide marriage) and the reasons they believe so. You will need to respond to each point and provide documentation as available. Include a cover letter describing what is enclosed in the response.

 

Somebody else's NOIR won't help you...the reasons will be specific to your circumstances and case.

Thank you. Yes I know there are specific points. I’m not needing the subject matter of someone else’s NOIR. I was just asking for an example for context. 

Thank you so much for your feedback. I do have many documents together. I was just looking for an example. I appreciate your support!

Hello... my husband and I have received the NOIR for his CR-1 visa. I was wondering... does anyone have a redacted sample of an NOIR that I could take a look at to determine how to go about creating this document? I have researched quite a bit and found many other documents such as "waivers, etc..." but nothing that speaks to what the NOIR should look like and no example. I know this may be a lot to ask but I'm just trying to get it right so that I'm not just sending in a random "letter".  There were no instructions other than prove your relationship is bonafide in your response. LOL>

Thanks in advance! 🙂

On 8/8/2018 at 9:03 PM, Unshakable Faith said:

Check for when your case creation date changes and it goes from saying "immigrant visa" to "non-immigrant"...when you see that, know it's coming!!!

 

I remember those stressful days, just relax and keep checking!!

Where is this case creation date?

Yes! She needs to bring it for sure! They asked my husband for ours. 

On 4/18/2018 at 2:15 AM, nwafada said:

Hi everyone, i went for interview yesterday here in Lagos Nigeria and i was given a white paper that states that " before we can continue adjudicating your immigrant visa application, your case must undergo additional administrative processing. We will notify you by email or phone as soon as the administrative processing is complete. If you have not heard from us withing 90 days of your original interview date, you may send an email to LagosIV@state.gov. to request an update." What do i do and what will my fiance do from her end.

Hello... we had the very same experience... this is my post reviewing the interview:  Review Topic: IR-1/CR-1 Visa

Husbands appt was for 6:45am. Was interviewed at 10am. Said the CO was awesome and extremely friendly and supportive! Because my husband has children with another woman and classified himself as married on previous visitor visa application, they had to clairify that. He was honest and stated that he was never married before and explained why when asked. The CO gave him a blank paper and asked him to attest to that fact and then take another oath in writing that would go in the file. Then gave him a paper stating “before adjudicating your immigrant visa app, your case must undergo further administrative processing. We will notify you by either email or phone as soon as admin processing is complete. If you have not heard from us within 90 days, you can send us an email at... to request an update”. At first, I thought this meant he was denied but after further
Research it seems this is common and most get their visas after. Anyone know of this or experienced this before? Other than that, great interview overall!

Based on what I gathered, this happens often... so, after 90 days, you contact them to see where they are. You can also check on the CEAC website to determine if you are still in AP. You enter your visa details and it will update you on the status. 

If you hear of anything else, in terms of a solution, let me know! Hopefully, the AP will be quick and easy! Did they say why you were placed in AP?? Good luck to you!

6 hours ago, Diva00 said:

Good luck for your interview 

can u pls tell me how much time it takes from your NOA1 to NOA2 ??? 

THank you! It was like 7 days. But you should look at timelines for all spouse visas for Nigeria to see and compare. There’s also a page that completely explains everything step by step. I highly recommend you search for that! VJ has so many amazing resources. I literally never had to go anywhere else to be in the know and understand the process. Read everything very thoroughly! Good luck!!

On 6/21/2018 at 5:00 AM, Lyn & Lan said:

Thank you! I wish you good luck in your interview. 

Thanks so much! I'm so very excited!

28 minutes ago, Lyn & Lan said:

Thank you! I wish you good luck in your interview. 

Thanks so much!! 

21 hours ago, Lyn & Lan said:

Hello All,

 

My husband had his interview today in Lagos and got approved!! I am over the moon as I did not sleep from the time he walked into the Embassy and came out, lol. I will be back shortly to give his review. 

OUTSTANDING!!! We have one more month to go! 

23 hours ago, Vetomo said:

Good day friends, I just got our of the embassy, ever thing went fine,the consulate just ask me a feel question here we go

Co,who is calling

Me,....

Co,when did we get married

Me....

Co,where your wife stay in American

Me...

Co,show me picture

Me....

Co,everything is fine,but we need your medical result before we can issue your visa and consulate give me white paper,how to send my passport to them,thank you all for your support, God bless you all,one love.

Congratulations!!!! How exciting!!! 

21 hours ago, Kikiayke said:

Pls my Nigerians peeps, long does it take the medical results to come out.

My husband just did his and they told him to come back in 2 weeks. 

7 minutes ago, rajeejunie said:

It’s normal don’t worry! Usually it takes 2-3 weeks before they send the papers to your consulate. 

Ok thanks! I called them and they said that it will probably be sent next week. Im not really worried it’s just that I’ve seen others post that it gets sent on the same day the interview is scheduled so that’s why I was asking... regardless, it will be on its way soon! Yay! 

2 hours ago, rajeejunie said:

You case has been completed and in line for interview scheduling. You can call NVC to ask about your embassy scheduling.  

 

Edit: The papers won't leave NVC until you are scheduled for an interview. 

My interview is already scheduled and was scheduled like 2 weeks ago so why would it still be saying “at NVC”? I’m just going to call them, as usual.

Hello everyone... i have a question... my husband's interview is scheduled 7/19/18 but I have no idea when our application left the NVC nor when the Consulate received it. How would I know those dates? I see that they are included in our timeline submissions, but I don't know how to find out that information. Aside from the medical and gathering all documents for the interview, are there any other steps before the interview that I need to know about? Thanks in advance everyone! 

On 6/1/2018 at 9:13 AM, Nellybee said:

Hi guys,

So I finally travelled to the US yesterday and got in around 9pm local time. My POE was Newark, I wasn't asked a single question , the Immigration officer took my packet, stamped my passport and welcomed me to the United States. Within 1hr I was done, the only sad part was they took my suya (😭😭😭 , my Nigerian folks would understand) the journey has been a tedious one and I'm so glad to be with my dear hubby. I wish every one success , and my prayers are with you guys. Just hang in there, it would soon be over .

Suya is nectar from the gods!!! LOL. Glad you made it and are reunited with your husband. Welcome to America!

18 hours ago, Peachess said:

My dear VJers, I am now officially a US permanent resident. I got into America last night at 8:45pm Est. 

POE Atlanta. 

Everything went very smooth from filing at uscis, to nvc, to interview and then POE. The whole journey from start to US entry took me 1 year and 4 days.. It is the Lords doing. I wish the rest of you Goodluck while I go start a family with DH  

What a great post... very inspiring... anything is possible!! Welcome to America!!!!!!!