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  1. Still another point to consider: Never hang pictures of leaders and heroes, past or present, on your walls, for it may inadvertently lead to feelings of extreme reverence and hero worship, and this in turn may become an avenue leading to shirk. Such things are considered as avenues leading to that which is haram, and hence considered as forbidden. It is worth remembering that this was the main rationale for prohibiting carving images and statues in the first place.

    Since, however, such motives are entirely lacking in hanging family pictures, there is no reason to consider it as haram."

    I remember seeing photos of the King of Morocco all over the place when I was there. Also, I had never heard anything related to pictures from Wadi and his family had photos in the house. What is standard opinion in Morocco?

    Well IMO the king wants to be venerated - God, country and king and the whole kiss his hand thing. But I guess that's a dfferent topic all together :huh:

    Most of Morocco tends to interpret Islam through the Maliki school of jurisprudence. Maliki tends to draw a difference between 2-D images and 3-D images makign photos, drawing, painting etc much less an issue than otehr schools of law.

  2. Here is a more specifc answer to hanging pics on the wall rater than framed pics on a dresser. also from Islamonline.net

    There is nothing to prohibit hanging family pictures on the wall as long as this is far from the possibility of breeding reverence and glorification and the content of the picture itself does not reveal any `awrahs or indecency.

    In his response to the question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

    “It is not considered haram (forbidden) to hang family pictures on the wall; however, I should urge you against hanging them on the wall directly facing you in Prayer. For by hanging them in the direction of Prayer, your thoughts will likely be distracted; furthermore, it may inadvertently give the impression that we worship pictures. It is important for us Muslims to make ourselves distinct in our religious practices from those who associate partners with Allah in their worship. So never hang such pictures in the direction of your Prayer.

    Still another point to consider: Never hang pictures of leaders and heroes, past or present, on your walls, for it may inadvertently lead to feelings of extreme reverence and hero worship, and this in turn may become an avenue leading to shirk. Such things are considered as avenues leading to that which is haram, and hence considered as forbidden. It is worth remembering that this was the main rationale for prohibiting carving images and statues in the first place.

    Since, however, such motives are entirely lacking in hanging family pictures, there is no reason to consider it as haram.”

  3. Hey everybody, hope you are well!! I wanted to know some information. Somebody told me that muslims do not have pictures of their children on the walls in their home and are not allowed to have angels (like figureines) in the home. Is this correct and if so is there anywhere that I can read this information? I have tried to find it but maybe I am not looking in the correct place.

    I'm sure you will get many different answers to this question, so this is mine :P

    At the root of this question is the prohibition of creating images that promote or give the impression of idoltry. The one hadith that you refer to is: "Angels do not enter houses where there are images" but there are others such as "Whoever makes an image in this world will be asked by Allah to breathe a soul into it on the Day of Judgment".

    Different schools of jurisprudence (and within these schools different scholars) have made rulings on modern uses of images - such as photography. Some will say all images are forbidden. Some will say the images can be in the house in a drawer or photo album. etc...

    here is one comment from islamonline.net to the question about family photos that are framed/hung on the wall:

    First of all, we would like to stress that there is nothing wrong, as far as Islam is concerned, in keeping those framed pictures as well as other family photos you tend to keep for memories or as souvenirs.

    In his response to the question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a Senior Lecturer and Islamic Scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states the following:

    "There is nothing wrong for you to keep those pictures in a frame on a bedroom dresser. Photographic pictures are not considered quite haram or forbidden as is the case with carving of images, which has been forbidden in the Prophetic Sunnah. Pictures are taken by trapping the shadows of a thing, and hence, it is not mimicking Allah’s creation.

    Also if a person is simply keeping them for memory or as a souvenir it is not at all prohibited to do so. However, to display pictures of heroes or leaders or scholars on the walls may fall into category of undesirable or forbidden category, for it may breed reverence, which is a slippery road leading to hero-worship, which is forbidden in Islam."

    IMO, some of the more strict rulings seem to forget the intent of the Quran on this issue and create some impractical contadictions. For example, what about passport photos? A strict narrow interpretation of the hadith about angels would make this image (often tucked away in a drawer) haram, right? Often the strict scholars will then make a loophole in their ruling saying that a passport is necessary so it is an exception.

  4. "It's not merely an office job," Adwan told The Jordan Times. "To be a good geologist, you have to start your job in the field. Sometimes you have to stay in the field for one or two weeks, sleep in a tent. It's very hard for ladies to work such long hours under the sun and you have to make special arrangements for them when there are only one or two in the field with all men."

    These kinds of arguments really get under my skin. "It's not really discrinimation because it is for the protection of the women"

    ugggh :angry:

  5. I posted an article about this recentally too. When I first read it I was really surprised because I didn't encounter this during my stay in Egypt however I was always with my Husband. I am really shocked by the statistic that 20,000 women annually reported they had been raped.

    The statement that they brought it on themselves reminds me of the fight here in America that women do with, "Take back the night." I'm sure most of you are aware of that.

    :lol: As I was posting this I thought to myself "I am being Olivia"

  6. It seems it may have something to do with the expiration date on the original NOA2. Remember when the consulate was closed for all that time last year?

    If it's something that simple don't they have the discretion to extend it?

    They do and that's why i am a bit confused as to eactly what happened. I do remember reading that the Consulate doesn;t automatically renew and sometimes you have to remind them to do so?

  7. So sad :( It happened to my gf, (btw is in hijab..does NOT wear revealing clothing) and she was flashed by a man in the street of her neighborhood in Cairo! Disgusting :(

    You know I know there are millions of Egyptians who do not hold these views, so I read this article as more of a postive statement of how things are changing due to the hard work of many Egyptians.

    I also suspect that there are many Americans who think in this way. Probably more than we would like to admit. How many times have I heard someone say, well she brought this upon herself or something in that vein.

  8. Jul. 23, 2008

    Shelly Paz , THE JERUSALEM POST

    Almost two-thirds of Egyptian men harass women and believe their victims bring it on themselves when they wear tight and revealing clothes, according to a study released over the weekend by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights in Cairo.

    The study, titled "Clouds in Egypt's Sky," was released as part of the group's "Making our Streets Safer for Everyone" campaign launched in 2006.

    Egypt has yet to initiate a serious legal struggle against sexual violence. Some 20,000 rape cases were reported in 2006, according to a report published by the Egyptian National Center for Criminal and Social Research last year.

    Half of local and foreign women surveyed were sexually harassed in some way, according to the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights study. Ninety-eight percent of the foreign women, who visited Egypt for tourist, educational and professional reasons, said they experienced sexual harassment during their stay.

    Furthermore, 88% of respondents, women and men, had witnessed an incident involving sexual harassment.

    Of the Egyptians men surveyed, 62.4% said they had perpetrated and/or "continue to perpetrate" harassment of women.

    The sexual harassment committed by Egyptian men included touching without permission, staring, making insulting sexual comments and exposing their genitals to women.

    Fifty-three percent of the male respondents said women were to blame for sexual harassment because they enjoyed it and because they dressed in revealing clothing. Most women who were harassed did not file a complaint with the police and most incidents took place in the street, public transportation or tourist sites.

    According to the study, most Egyptians believe sexual harassment is a growing problem due to the deteriorating economy, a lack of awareness and the weakening of religious values.

    The Egyptian Center for Women's Rights was founded in 1996 by six women in Cairo's Dar el-Salaam neighborhood to provide poor women with legal aid and to promote women's legal and political rights.

    In March, the center launched a "Million Signatures Campaign" in support of strengthened legislation criminalizing sexual harassment. "The stories we collected from women about their experiences with harassment confirmed our fears that the worsening of this phenomenon has led to psychological effects as well as a decrease in women's willingness to go into the streets and participate in political and public life," the center said in a statement.

    Here's the link http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull

    The statement in red was the most telling to me. Also, I know there was a Million Signatures Campaign in Iran, but I don't know if the Cairo center is part of that or a completely different movement.

  9. well, the strings are very minimal. The place needs a little bit of work but we were considering telling the "landlord" that it had to be fixed before we would accept. The air doesn't work and it needs paint touch-ups (or something like that) I haven't actually seen the inside yet so I dunno how bad it is (if at all). It is for sale for 95,000 but in an area thats got 500,000 dollar homes so the area is really really nice.

    Its down briar forest on wood "something or other" (for those of u familiar with my area). maybe 10 to 15 minutes from my apartment. It would be nice money wise ... maybe I would just sleep on the couch....

    Youu could borrow Fred and let him guard the door downstairs so you could sleep upstairs :P

  10. I probably would... think of it this way - it would give you the opportunity to save up for the place you will love, not just be okay with.... think of what you could do with the income you are not spending on rent or mortgage.

    :blush: that's just comeing from someone who pays half of my monthly income on rent alone and doesn't actually make enough to cover rent and bills (not including food and gas) :blush:

    My heart goes out to you! We all talk about gas prices but just this year food has increased 18%. that really adds up each week too! Hope some kind of windfall comes your way soon!

  11. Where are the good restaurants ME in Houston??? thanks .....

    can anyone help me...I am a beginner and never liked the food i saw in egypt..and so i kind of avoided the kitchen..but i want to suprise my husband when he comes home and make him something special....what is a good thing that is simple and hard to mess up that yall would recommend? I saw a few things in the middle eastern section at the store like couscous and grape leaves. I appreciate any input on a easy recipe.

    Kristy

    There is a restaurant called Fadi's, I LOVE it. :star:

    Fadi's is good. There is also a relatively new place that is fantastic called alladin's on the corner of Westheimer and Montrose. Order the Kababs!

    I only went there once but I wanted to stand by the bread oven all day and just keep eating it!

    If I ever win the lottery, the first thing going into my kitchen is a bread oven :yes:

  12. i wanted to have hubby entertain me with some grammatical reading with potential funny errors BUT instead we opted to go see a town house that may be ours for free (if I like it well enough) ... is that too "something" for this thread?

    oooh exciting news!!!!!!!! keeping fingers crossed that it if it is a good thing it works out for ya!

  13. Then I asked, "so what time do you think we should wake up the first day?"

    (mind you that fajr is at 4:48 the first morning so I'm thinking we'll wake up around 4:15ish, eat and then go back to bed)

    His answer was 3am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And he said it with such pure GLEE!!!!!!!!

    Idir always needs more time in the mornign befor efasting than I do. I stil don't really understand why. He wants to wake up with an hour to go. I want 30 mins max!

  14. morning. Just had a yummy omlette with tomatoes, feta and spinach! YUM!

    Why is it your food posts always have the same effect over me?????? you always have the best choices for lunch and I always get hungry!

    23_2_54.gif( and hungry :P )

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