rin and john

The data backs Just Bob up.
http://www.dhs.gov/x...ent-ar-2010.pdf
Unless he is Hispanic and hangs out near the southern border, or is arrested as JB says, then his odds of being able to remain in the USA (albeit with a cloud of doom over his head) are pretty good.

Again, most pre-entry fraud is caught (if at all) at the State Department point in processing, not by the USCIS. The USCIS is more likely to catch fraud post-entry during AOS interview/processing. For K visas, the USCIS primarily checks validity of the petition (met in past two years, free to marry, etc) and criminal background check. Eliminate the first petition process with USCIS, shift it to the Embassy. Faster processing times for the K visas and for AOS as it frees resources at USCIS.
With regard to workload, see the attached:
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY10AnnualReport-TableI.pdf
The State Dept issued 6,422,751 visas in 2010. Of these 215,947 were immediate relatives (some of which would have been DCF and handled at the embassy level without stateside USCIS resources). Even if K1s are in the non-immigrant list, the percent of fiance/spouse visas issued at by the State Dept with USCIS pre-screening is less than 10% of all visas issued by consulates. Not a significant change in workload at the embassy since even of this 10% the State Dept is already doing some of the work. It would actually become more efficient as your application has one stop, the embassy. It currently goes through three stops (USCIS, NVC, Embassy). How do you get that as centralized processing?
For the roughly six million visas the State Dept approved for visitors to the USA without USCIS vetting until they arrive at an immigration checkpoint, how many of them are turned away at the border? How many end up staying in the country beyond their approved visa limit? How many enter a sham marriage after they enter the USA just to get a green card?
Yes, fraud exists in the fiance/spouse visa arena, but the current process "tries to keep the flies out by caulking the crack in the window while the door is open".

OK, so what about DCF? What about DV Lottery (approximately 50,000/yr)? Done entirely at the consulate.
All I am saying is I don't believe that USCIS does any better at weeding out "bad" immigrants than the State Department does (in fact, I'd probably give the nod to the State Department as they have more local knowledge).
So in the name of government efficiency, I'd eliminate K1s and do all spousal visas as DCFs. Border security and fraud would not be significantly impacted.

The point I was making is that the percentages of AOS applications for people without a K visa or CR1/IR1 is more than 50%, so the majority of AOS applicants are doing so from within the USA. Those applying for a visa to enter the USA and subsequently apply for AOS are no more/no less a threat.
1-4 above are just as easily confirmed at the consulate as it is at USCIS. I am sure No. 5 could also be handled by the State Dept, as well.
I agree the USCIS serves other immigration related functions that a consular could not, a visa for a spouse shouldn't be one of them.
And to your last point, USCIS should not waste their limited resources adjudicating K visas, Take those resources and work on border control for the 12 million (over 85% of illegals are from Mexico and Central America).

From a post I made in April regarding the same topic:
"I would allow everyone to adjust status from within the USA since the vast majority already do. In 2008, 367,000 aliens were granted LPR status as the spouse or child of a USC. Another 103,000 were granted LPR status as the spouse or child of a LPR for a total of 470,000 spouse/child LPRs. Of these 470k, we can assume that about 70,000 to 80,000 were K visa entries based on 2007 and 2008 K visa entries. For the remaining 400,000 they either received an immigrant visa abroad or filed AOS from within the USA. Given that 60% of all new GC recipients already live in the USA, it is fairly safe to assume that a significant number of the remaining 400,000 adjusted status from within the USA
I would eliminate the USCIS petition process for K-visas. It is essentially a pre-approval process to evaluate a person from a security standpoint as admissible to the USA. The US State Department already does this for a significant majority of visas.
In 2008, there were 175 million non-immigrant admissions into the USA. The vast majority of these were from Canada and Mexico with multiple crossings by the same person. Another 39 million were admitted with an I-94 arrival/departure card. Of these 39 million, only 59,000 were admitted as K1/K2/K3/K4. So the K visa entries represent 0.03% of all non-immigrant entries and 0.15% of all I-94 arrivals. The USCIS' first contact with many of these admissions occurred at the border without three months of petition processing. Many came on the VWP or received visas at an embassy without pre-approval by USCIS. So why not do the same for family members of US citizens? Allow them to initially apply at the embassy, get a visa; come to the USA; and then begin the I-130/I-485 process. The odds of one of them being a terrorist is no better or worse than the millions entering without several months of USCIS review."
http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/public...s/yearbook.shtm
The State Dept approves visas for the vast majority of entrants to the USA. Why not for K visas? The USCIS would still have a chance to get their say during the AOS process.

The second she started living there she got what's called tenancy rights. Ownership doesn't matter once someone has tenancy rights it takes a few months at least in most states to force them to leave without breaking the law yourself.
Cops won't listen to "I've got a pre-nup", they'll say "oh, she lives here so now you have to evict her if she won't leave willingly" and that's all they can do. If he locks her out she can call the cops on him though because she has those rights of tenancy!

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From the instructions for the I-864, I would say they count:
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864instr.pdf
21d - Enter the number of unmarried children you have who are under age 21, even if you do not have legal custody of these children. You may exclude any unmarried children under 21, if these children have reached majority under the law of their place of domicile and you do not claim them as dependents on your income tax returns.
The instructions for the I-134 don't say, but since you would eventually have to list your children on the I-1864 when your future spouse tries to adjust status, I don't think you would want to show the two forms differently (misrepresentation can be a big issue to USCIS). At the least I would list the children on the I-134 and mark them as partially dependent.

And eff u both! My daughter is in Uganda (about 2 1/2 hours from Kampala) as part of her college intern program to become a missionary. You are both cold, heartless, bastards!

And eff u both! My daughter is in Uganda (about 2 1/2 hours from Kampala) as part of her college intern program to become a missionary. You are both cold, heartless, bastards!

And eff u both! My daughter is in Uganda (about 2 1/2 hours from Kampala) as part of her college intern program to become a missionary. You are both cold, heartless, bastards!

Assuming you start in Miami (based on earlier post), a total of eight flights ranging from 1:10 hours to 5:00 hours in length. Total trip time of about 81 hours with a night spent in Copenhagen and potentially a short night at a hotel in Dubai.
Depart Date: Apr 01, 2010
From: Miami, FL, USA
To: Boston, MA, USA
American Airlines (AA) Flight 1926
Depart: 3:55p - Miami International Apt
Arrive: 7:05p - Boston Logan International Apt
Airtime = 3:10
Depart Date: Apr 01, 2010
From: Boston, MA, USA
To: Reykjavik, Iceland
Icelandair (FI) Flight 630
Depart: 9:30p - Boston Logan International Apt
Arrive: 6:30a - Keflavik International Apt - Reykjavik
Airtime = 5:00
Depart Date: Apr 02, 2010
From: Reykjavik, Iceland
To: Copenhagen, Denmark
Icelandair (FI) Flight 212
Depart: 1:15p - Keflavik International Apt - Reykjavik
Arrive: 6:15p - Copenhagen Kastrup Apt
Airtime = 3:00
Depart Date: Apr 03, 2010
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
To: Istanbul, Turkey
Turkish Airlines (TK) Flight 1784
Depart: 12:10p - Copenhagen Kastrup Apt
Arrive: 4:20p - Istanbul Ataturk Airport
Airtime = 3:10
Depart Date: Apr 03, 2010
From: Istanbul, Turkey
To: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Emirates (EK) Flight 122
Depart: 7:25p - Istanbul Ataturk Airport
Arrive: 12:40a - Dubai International
Airtime = 4:15
Depart Date: Apr 04, 2010
From: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
To: Mumbai, India
Emirates (EK) Flight 502
Depart: 1:15p - Dubai International
Arrive: 5:35p - Mumbai, India
Airtime = 2:50
Depart Date: Apr 04, 2010
From: Mumbai, India
To: Bangkok, Thailand
Thai Airways International (TG) Flight 318
Depart: 11:35p - Mumbai, India
Arrive: 5:35a - Bangkok Suvarnabhumi International Apt
Airtime = 4:30
Depart Date: Apr 05, 2010
From: Bangkok, Thailand
To: Vientiane, Lao P D R
Thai Airways International (TG) Flight 570
Depart: 11:45a - Bangkok Suvarnabhumi International Apt
Arrive: 12:55p - Vientiane, Lao P D R
Airtime = 1:10