Chuckles

Make sure she gets any transcripts from any college/university she attended. It is much easier to get them when you are 'there'. The meds and stuff are a good idea. She will adapt (presumably) to our medicines/music/etc., but it is good to have for the first few months, which can be very diffucult.

She probably will not need as many clothes as she thinks. She should save the room for more important things (IMO). Good luck convincing her of that though.

Sorry slim, I will take you off my mailing list.

Willow

Except for the items in the original petition, we got all our papers back, if memory serves me correctly.

I suppose they can keep whatever they want, if they decide to.

Well, for all I know, you could be correct!

But I don't really know any girls who are not all about the sex unless their relationships are really bad. or if it's very small...

Probably just, you know, respectful.

Humm... I've never had a relationship where a woman "withheld sex" from me. American, or Russian...

Am I lucky... OR GOOD !!!!

More then likely, but I liked the way I said it more

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A very self-serving comment...and very sideways. But you are, after all, American. What can we expect?

Well, who do you expect me to serve, you?

You don't like Russian or American men? Russian women are supposed to hate Russian men because they are dominating and run to you because Russian men treat them like $hit? And in return you think they want you to dominate them, as that is somehow different then the Russian man who dominated them before?

I can't put your thoughts together. They tend to conflict.

Yes, I understand woman don't want a man who turns to jelly at every crisis. They don't want to initiate everything. I get it. Or rather, I got it. Are you taking it to the extreme to play devils advocate? It just seems like you are pontificating without purpose. I get the feeling you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Probably just, you know, respectful.

Humm... I've never had a relationship where a woman "withheld sex" from me. American, or Russian...

Am I lucky... OR GOOD !!!!

More then likely, but I liked the way I said it more

Humm... I've never had a relationship where a woman "withheld sex" from me. American, or Russian...

Am I lucky... OR GOOD !!!!

I don't know anything about Russian women in general, all I know is my Russian wife, and my experiences are in conflict with Mr. Connery. My wife used to microwave cold juice and such when she first came, and now she doesn't. It didn't take any proding from me. And who cares if she likes warm drinks? And all that other stuff about stopping the cooking and having sex... SOUNDS GREAT! But I don't see women out there like that (unpaid), Russian or otherwise, and I would have little respect for them anyways.

My experiences were similar to KG's. Maybe 50% of his "jokes" I can relate with. I feel like I have a strong relationship. And, last I checked, the balls were still swinging between my legs, not hers.

I use coupons when I go grocery shopping. But I don't go on and on about it on the immigration message boards.

I'm bored at work and trying to was trying to liven things up a bit, its getting so PC in here... and Mox's message gave me a good laugh, I had to follow up on it.

Should they go into debt to satisfy their wives' every whim?

Slim and Sat, you are cheap bastards, get over yourselves, and admit it. I am sure your wives would agree.

No, but they come to boards, and call people out all the time, which by the way is refreashing sometimes !!! They know how to call a "duck a duck".

HOWEVER, when someone calls them a "duck" they insist they are a "goose" !!

GET OVER IT YOU CHEAP BASTARDS !!!

Don't explain it... Don't rationalize it... it makes you look stupid.

And I really don't care what their wives get or don't get, or how many whims they satisfy, but I have seen Sat's wife come to these boards and complain about his cheapness, and slim tells everyone outright his wife thinks he is cheap. So hence my comment... get over yourselves cheap skates!

He's probably gonna rent a limousine and sip wine while cruising through the streets of Moscow. And occasionally he'll have the driver pull over so his wife can catch up.

Awesome line.

Slim and Sat, you are cheap bastards, get over yourselves, and admit it. I am sure your wives would agree.

I think everyone on this thread is over-analyzing a tad bit. Your opinions and ideas are well thought out Carolyn, and I apologize if it seems I singled you out.

However, in my opinion, you just cannot predict these things. I am amazed how people meet and still manage to have sucessful relationships. You are right about Indian couples with the family support and all helping them out. Still... you can talk about it and theorize about what it takes to have a strong relationship until you are blue in the face, but ultimatly you don't know what is in peoples hearts and minds.

... and then there are millions upon millions of people who have never met their spouse before marriage, such as is common in India, and very many of those marriages work out just fine.

Its not worth predicting or worrying about other peoples 'relationship worthiness'. Just get on with life and let other people be.

I still remember angry grown men getting in fights in the long gas lines back during one of those mysterious gas shortages we had almost 3 decades ago.

The "50 years until the s**t hit's the fan" scenario is being discussed a lot lately around global warming worst case. If we fight over who gets their tank filled next, think how we'll behave when the food chain breaks down and the power grid craps out.

Just recently Ted Turner was quoted as saying in 50 years we all become cannibals due to global warming. I don't care much for Ted but maybe he's not too nutty to see the dark possibilities. And things we be very bad way before we start digesting each other.

When the streets go dirty and mean, the soft white collar males aren't going to have a clue, and by then we'll all have our guns taken away by socialist-progressive government agencies (like the San Francisco and DC city governments) so we can neither hunt the little remaining game there is or protect our homes and families when the roaming hoard of crazed people decides we're their next barbecue selection.

And if the Al Queida forces have it their way, things could get nasty out on the streets a lot sooner.

So we better enjoy all the techno goodies while we can...and maybe stash some food, water and guns under the porch...to buy us a few extra weeks before the end.

Every generation has its doomsday scenario. It was the "red scare" in the 50's and 60's, it was nuclear holocaust in the 70's and 80's, it was terrorism in the 90's (nuclear terrorism, specifically) and 00's (back to plain 'ol driving airplanes into buildings), and now it looks like the energy shortage will be the new scare. And while I certainly am completely on board with global warming as a reality, and that the world's oil supply is in much worse shape than anyone is telling us, I see cannibals and Al Queda running amok in the streets about as likely as muppets running amok in the streets. (for starters, oil is what funds Al Queda. Without oil there is no Al Queda.) I see the government taking our guns even more unlikely, because no President, not even Hillary, would be stupid enough to basically force this country into civil war. Hell, even if we lived in bizarro universe and Ralph Nader tried to take your guns away, congress would not only stop it, but probably impeach.

I would go with your first instinct...Ted Turner really is a nut.

Muppets running amok throught the streets, now that truly is a horrific doomsday scenario.

Yah... we have all seen how responsible German and Japanese armies have been.

Mine/our experience at MOM in 2006 was fine as well.

True, but I'd never date a Russian one either.

Minor detail!

Now, those Pitcairn ladies, on the other hand...

They have the softest, most orange skin in the world. Once you've had the orange skin, there's just no going back.

Careful with those Pitcairn ladies mox, they are just looking for a green card! I know inbred women like them are hawt and all... but just watch yourself buddy!

Pokernut, I'm saddened by your story. But please, do not "try this again". Before you do anything, get some counseling. It might sound stupid, but it can help. You have work on a few things with yourself, I suspect, before you are ready for a fufilling relationship.

There is nothing wrong with what you did (IMO), it isn't a crime to be lonely or desperate. Apparantly some people in this thread think it is... but your intentions were sincere. Put some of that energy you used back into yourself, and maybe look at some local personals.

I wish you the best of luck.

Thanks for the help, she got her visa a few days ago.

Chuckles, could you elaborate a little bit on what you submitted, what her mother's "ties" were, and what the interview was like? My mom is about to have an interview, and your post could help us much!

Sorry for the late reply.

Her ties were a home and apartment she owns, her family, and her job. They seemed most interested in her job.

They asked her if her daughters middle name was alexandaya or something, which it isn't. I guess they were trying to catch something (???). They asked how long she wanted to stay in America, she said that she had to get back to work on September 1st. They noticed the invitation was for September 10, she said no, she needs to be back by the 1st. She mentioned how important her job was to her... laid it on a little think. Some other questions, like how do we communicate (in Russian), where she would stay in America (she was specific about our town and house). At some point she mentioned her husband, I forget where and what the question was.

Anyway, follow these guides and have your in-law impress the consule that they really must come back to Russia for something. Do not overstate your need or intentions to be in America. If you/she does that, it will be fine I am sure.

Yeah, but if you're a "poster" that leaves a lot of room for name calling.

That's better then the "postee" I presume.

What should she have said instead? They seem like such jerks about b-2 visas.

Thanks for the help, she got her visa a few days ago.

The lady before here was in a similar situation, but she didn't emphisize during her interview she had stuff to come home to do, and when asked why she is going to America she answered "to help my daughter take care of her baby" and apparently they ended the interview right there and told her she could not get a visa.

Moral of the story, do some brief coaching and make your in-law understand excatly what the consul want to know and hear, as we did.

Anyway she got the visa and everything worked out.

Yah, they are jerks.

The implication is her daughter needs her to take care of the baby, and she would be inclined to stay and help. I would have advised her to not say anything about helping, and just about visiting, emphisizing why she would need to come back soon to Russia (job, husband, children, cat, anything).

Thanks for the help, she got her visa a few days ago.

The lady before here was in a similar situation, but she didn't emphisize during her interview she had stuff to come home to do, and when asked why she is going to America she answered "to help my daughter take care of her baby" and apparently they ended the interview right there and told her she could not get a visa.

Moral of the story, do some brief coaching and make your in-law understand excatly what the consul want to know and hear, as we did.

Anyway she got the visa and everything worked out.

Hey all.

I started my search for convenient places to stay in Moscow for Tanya and Alina. I figure three days for time for them to get the medical on the weekend and the interview on Monday (May 12).

I have left two emails and even talked to Olyesa, "My Girl Friday", that was recommended here. But she has not responded to my inquiries. Guess she doesn't want my business. Anyone have some alternatives?

http://www.apartmentres.com/en/apartments/...erican_embassy/

Is that really any different than our interviewer at the AOS hearing saying, "Gosh, you guys are so young. Do you know what you're getting into?"

Slightly different; I'd have been mildly offended on hearing that but not enough to make a big deal of it. The difference is that the consulate interviewer was actively trying to dissuade her from marrying, and actively trying to persuade her to abandon her visa. Your AOS interviewer was just being nosy.

Dunno...to me, it's nobody's effing business to stick their nose into my relationship as long as we're both consenting adults.

Well I guess I'll chime in on a serious note. It is his business to probe into the relationship, in fact, it is his job. It can easily be argued that he was trying to shake her and have her admit she only wanted a green card somehow.

I can't say I like it, but step back a long ways, then look at the big picture.

Oh dear god, not another summer/spring marriage !!!!