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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from kylie_and_hamid in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    Relationships are relationships. And cultural differences can be as vast and varied between American couples as they are between international couples. Fear about the sincerity of your "true love's" intentions is a red flag, regardless of what country your beloved comes from. Significant age gaps will always pose unique challenges, just like marrying into vastly different socio-economic status will pose challenges, or different cultures, or different beliefs about how to raise children. And wise warnings from "people who've been there" will always fall on deaf ears - whether those ears belong to "highly attractive" older American woman marrying a younger Moroccan man, or whether they belong to a 17 year girl from California who wants to marry her high school sweetheart who lives next door, as soon as they graduates high school. A person should be no more cautious marrying someone from a "high fraud" country, than they should marrying someone from the US.
    And what is "high fraud" anyway? So a man marries a woman for a visa? Is that so much more fraudulent than a man who marries a woman because she's hot? Maybe both are fraud. But if marrying for the wrong reasons constitutes "fraud" - then all Americans should be on high alert before marrying other Americans.
    Lets be real. "MENA" marriages fail for the same reasons so many other do - selfishness. It comes in many forms and many languages. If your relationship is real, and you can learn to be selfless, it will work out...and if its not, it won't. Just like millions and millions of US marriages. As an adult, if you cannot tell the truth and reality and depth of your own relationships, then you are as likely to have an unsuccessful marriage to someone from Norway, as you are someone from Morocco. What I'm trying to say is this is not some mysterious phenomenon in Moroccan men. In these forums its we call it "fraud" - in America its called "irreconcilable differences" - but its the same thing.
    Rosearered - you sound like a nice enough woman. And it sounds like your relationship, like so many others (both international & U.S.) ended qith you feeling deceived. You're not the first. You and 50+% of all American marriages end with someone feeling like they were used, unloved, and betrayed. And its genuinely sad that your marriage wasn't mean to be. But it wasn't because he was from Morocco. It was because it didn't work out, for many reasons which none of us know anything about. And the only people who know the truth about your relationship is your and your ex. And if blaming it on him being Moroccan makes you feel better, thats fine - but that's not why it ended.
    Relationships are relationships - love is love - and marriages either last or they don't. But it has nothing to do with where anyone is from. Sure, its so much more convenient to blame marriages-gone-wrong on external factors (like being Moroccan) than to take personal responsibility. But lets all grow up. The success or failure of a marriage has everything to do with the 2 people involved, and their ability to make a good decision in whom they marry, and their mutual ability to love and care for one another. End of story.

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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Kissablestyles in Planning Ahead to Marry Algerian Man   
    I'm a teacher so I can't help myself, my best advice would be: Do some SERIOUS homework. You mentioned you don't know anything about what's normal in Algeria. So hit the web, or the library, and research the culture of Algeria. Research the history of Algeria. Learn as much as you can about the world of this man you are swept away by.
    Is he a practicing Muslim? If he is a practicing Muslim, marrying an atheist is going to be a hard pill for his family to swallow, if they can accept it at all. And even if he is not currently practicing, people often circle back to the faith of their upbringing. Would you really be okay with that? It could potentially become a painful rift in your marriage. Basically just learn as much as you can.
    And if he is a practicing Muslim, research the religion and culture of Islam (specifically when it comes to marriage.) I'm not sure how much you know, but If you want to marry this man, I would recommend getting a book and reading up. And talk to people, not just him (there are lots of people here you could talk to). Keep in mind, the version of Islam you may be interpreting from your "religious debates" with this guy, is most likely VERY tempered...even if it doesn't feel like it. Meaning - don't make the mistake of thinking you understand Islam because of how you interpret what he's said, he may not want to overwhelm you. And by the way, the only reason I'm mentioning this stuff is because as an Atheist, you've got to understand that Islam can be a life encompassing religion - and you may not pick that up in your romantic internet chats
    Love is a wonderful thing - but marrying someone from another country is so much more than just the romantic cloud nine you're on right now. And that's not to discourage you. I met my husband while traveling in Morocco - it was the most romantic experience of my life...and now 3 years later, he is exactly the man I knew he was that first time I met him. But still, do your homework!
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from JeanneVictoria in Our relationship started while she was technically married   
    And your comment was nice?
    Perhaps it would be wise not to read "rudeness" into people who are actually trying to be helpful. Pointing out that when it comes to interview questions, a sincere personal story is better than a canned, pre-scripted response for "red flag" issues isn't rude...its actually helpful.
    When I started this process I asked my lawyer if we should just try to get my husband a visitor visa and then get married while he was here in the US. She very quickly responded to me "Well that would be fraud, and if USCIS realize you did that intentionally, he could get banned for 10+ years...bad idea!" But guess what, because we weren't trying to commit fraud, I didn't take it personal. I didn't get angry and accuse her of being "disgustingly RUDE" because she mentioned the word "fraud." I didn't feel threatened because I knew it wasn't fraud. I actually appreciated the info and we moved forward successfully.
    No need to create drama with accusations. Romet is a big boy - he can stand up for himself (an did) - and we all wish him and his fiance the best. And I stand by my first recommendation. Worry about correctly compiling all the evidence you have to submit. For genuine relationships, the interview is a breeze.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from sandinista! in Our relationship started while she was technically married   
    And your comment was nice?
    Perhaps it would be wise not to read "rudeness" into people who are actually trying to be helpful. Pointing out that when it comes to interview questions, a sincere personal story is better than a canned, pre-scripted response for "red flag" issues isn't rude...its actually helpful.
    When I started this process I asked my lawyer if we should just try to get my husband a visitor visa and then get married while he was here in the US. She very quickly responded to me "Well that would be fraud, and if USCIS realize you did that intentionally, he could get banned for 10+ years...bad idea!" But guess what, because we weren't trying to commit fraud, I didn't take it personal. I didn't get angry and accuse her of being "disgustingly RUDE" because she mentioned the word "fraud." I didn't feel threatened because I knew it wasn't fraud. I actually appreciated the info and we moved forward successfully.
    No need to create drama with accusations. Romet is a big boy - he can stand up for himself (an did) - and we all wish him and his fiance the best. And I stand by my first recommendation. Worry about correctly compiling all the evidence you have to submit. For genuine relationships, the interview is a breeze.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Crossed_fingers in Our relationship started while she was technically married   
    Wow Romet,
    Your recent posts suggest you are awfully worried about the questions you're going to get, and how to avoid them...
    And I'm not gonna lie, you being so worried seems like a little bit of red flag in an of itself. If you try to "get away" from questions, or try to have pre-planned "good" answers, you're going to look a whole lot more fake than your relationship may actually be.
    All relationships are different, no one is going to have your same story exactly because they are not you and your fiance. A good starting place for ALL your concerns might be to make sure you are in this for the right reasons. If you are, then relax. As others have expressed, you'll get through the toughest interviews because your relationship is real. You should be more worried about compiling all the evidence of your relationship....and trust that the interview will go well because you know and love your fiance. Take it from those of us who know.
    Explaining how your relationship developed is a very personal and important part of your story. That includes all the circumstances both of you were in. It should be unique and genuine and the truth, not some answer someone else told you was a good way to "get away" from questions like that. How it "looks," and whether its "normal" or "a red flag" means nothing if your story is honest and sincere. Seriously. It may or may not come up, but either way, just explain and you'll be fine.
    Its seems like maybe you don't think "love" is enough...and it's not...you've got tons of paperwork and evidence to compile. But if your relationship is real, the interview questions should be the least of your worries. Good luck!
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from sandinista! in Fallen in love with an Algerian man   
    So I thought a lawyer was awesome for the K-1. I didn't have a clue where to start and she did it all. We have done the rest of steps and applications on our own and been fine, and sometimes I think we could have done the K-1 okay on our own. But I also think the other applications have been doable because we had a model application to look at. It was a couple thousand for the lawyer, but worth it for us. A good lawyer will know what the consulates want and how to make the process smooth. But they are pricey.
    As for skype records, I think its tricky, and that's why our lawyer actually didn't use our skype stuff. She said that the nature of skype is not very concrete, meaning, you could be anyone and it just doesn't prove much. Whereas phone records are tied to real people with accounts and names etc. We also texted multiple times a day, everyday, and we printed all those records off through my account. He would call me and my cell phone records showed those calls...I can't remember exactly how we got those records, but I think it was just online in my account history. I also had an international phone card that also showed the records of the time and date of every time I called him. She also had us submit emails, but not every email, just a monthly sampling that showed our ongoing contact.
    There was other stuff, affidavits, letters telling our story etc. But her big focus was our in-person meeting evidence: Plane ticket info, receipts from stores & restaurants, train tickets etc. So when you do make that first visit - keep ALL that stuff. And take lots of pictures of you in "landmark" kinds of places that show you together in noticeable locations....not just selfies of you close up, that kind of thing. And don't forget you have to have proof of a solid income to be his "sponsor." I'm a teacher so I was just barely okay, but you have to make above a certain amount or you'll also need to find somene else to "sponsor" him when he comes to the US. And you'll compile all this stuff into your application along with a million other forms and things required on his end. Its kind of overwhelming.
    Sorry I'm getting ahead of myself and telling you more than you asked. But I just hate the immigration process !! You just want to be together and you have to jump through all these hoops and pay all this money and wait and wait and wait. However, in the end - so worth it to be together!
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from sara..... in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    I disagree. The carnage and killing we see today has very little to with religion. It has to do with the selfish actions of a very small percentage of the world's humans population. Oh yes, people have always used religion to justify their actions. But it is always a distortion of what the religion actually teaches. Not one of the "Big 3" you mentioned really and truly teach people to destroy others. Extremist in all religions have interpreted the various scripture and texts to mean what they want it to mean. But the religions themselves actually teach quite the opposite.
    I'm sure it makes one feel quite superior to call God a "fairytale" - but in reality, the notion of "God" has actually been a driving force for more good in the world, than evil. But if you rely in the internet for your info, of course you will get the most salacious and notorious descriptions of human behavior associated with religion. But again, it is a distorted perception of religion.
    We are not a sad race. The news paints a sad story, but if you actually leave the wonderful worldwide web and travel in the real world, and see the human race in action, I think you would be shocked at how many people are leaving good and happy peaceful lives. Even though the news tells us otherwise, the reality is, there is much more goodness in the world...and much of it is because of the billions of good people who believe that wacky fairytale about God, and are striving for goodness that religion teaches.
    Peace
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Karee in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    On this point I do agree with you. But I still disagree with saying that "We are not anti-Jews, just anti Israel" is a myth.
    Sadly I think most people are fairly uninformed on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and I think most Americans feel that they would be accused of anti-semitism if they expressed any negative sentiments about Israel. And I think your post is the kind of thing that perpetuates the "myth" that being anti-Israel is nothing more than disguised antisemitism. Again, obviously people shouldn't target Jews in general when they are angry about whats happening in Israel. I totally agree with you on that.
    But I do think that, what we could call, "antisemitism mongering" is doing a great injustice to the cause of the Palestinians. Nobody wants to be "Hitler" - and accusations like yours make people scared to oppose Israel. I think people are even afraid to attempt to inform themselves, because any real or even perceived opposition to the cause of Israel is immediately tagged as antisemitism. And of course, you can site many lengthy articles proving your point, but its the attitude about opposition to Israel that is a slippery slope to me.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Póg mo in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    Actually one can deny that. I do. Its ridiculous to say that someone cannot be opposed to the actions of a country and its oppression of a people without be called antisemitic. If Israelis were Christian, I would still be outraged at the whole thing, from the Zionist movement of the 1940's, to the slaughter of hundreds of civilians in recent weeks. Sorry but it has nothing to do with antisemitism, and has to do with being anti-oppression.
    I suppose by your logic because I am outraged at the black skinned Hutu's for their attempted genocide of the Tutsi in Rwanda, then I am racist. I mean the Hutu's are black, so my anger at their behavior is just a "fig leaf" for my propaganda racism against blacks right? Give me a break.
    Some people are just anti-bullies, anti-war, anti-kicking people out of their homes because you want to settle there, anti-senseless killing in the name of self defense....no hidden antisemitic agenda....just anti-Israel.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Jacque67 in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    On this point I do agree with you. But I still disagree with saying that "We are not anti-Jews, just anti Israel" is a myth.
    Sadly I think most people are fairly uninformed on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and I think most Americans feel that they would be accused of anti-semitism if they expressed any negative sentiments about Israel. And I think your post is the kind of thing that perpetuates the "myth" that being anti-Israel is nothing more than disguised antisemitism. Again, obviously people shouldn't target Jews in general when they are angry about whats happening in Israel. I totally agree with you on that.
    But I do think that, what we could call, "antisemitism mongering" is doing a great injustice to the cause of the Palestinians. Nobody wants to be "Hitler" - and accusations like yours make people scared to oppose Israel. I think people are even afraid to attempt to inform themselves, because any real or even perceived opposition to the cause of Israel is immediately tagged as antisemitism. And of course, you can site many lengthy articles proving your point, but its the attitude about opposition to Israel that is a slippery slope to me.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Rattlehead in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    I disagree. The carnage and killing we see today has very little to with religion. It has to do with the selfish actions of a very small percentage of the world's humans population. Oh yes, people have always used religion to justify their actions. But it is always a distortion of what the religion actually teaches. Not one of the "Big 3" you mentioned really and truly teach people to destroy others. Extremist in all religions have interpreted the various scripture and texts to mean what they want it to mean. But the religions themselves actually teach quite the opposite.
    I'm sure it makes one feel quite superior to call God a "fairytale" - but in reality, the notion of "God" has actually been a driving force for more good in the world, than evil. But if you rely in the internet for your info, of course you will get the most salacious and notorious descriptions of human behavior associated with religion. But again, it is a distorted perception of religion.
    We are not a sad race. The news paints a sad story, but if you actually leave the wonderful worldwide web and travel in the real world, and see the human race in action, I think you would be shocked at how many people are leaving good and happy peaceful lives. Even though the news tells us otherwise, the reality is, there is much more goodness in the world...and much of it is because of the billions of good people who believe that wacky fairytale about God, and are striving for goodness that religion teaches.
    Peace
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Golden Gate in Antisemitism on rise across Europe 'in worst times since the Nazis"   
    I disagree. The carnage and killing we see today has very little to with religion. It has to do with the selfish actions of a very small percentage of the world's humans population. Oh yes, people have always used religion to justify their actions. But it is always a distortion of what the religion actually teaches. Not one of the "Big 3" you mentioned really and truly teach people to destroy others. Extremist in all religions have interpreted the various scripture and texts to mean what they want it to mean. But the religions themselves actually teach quite the opposite.
    I'm sure it makes one feel quite superior to call God a "fairytale" - but in reality, the notion of "God" has actually been a driving force for more good in the world, than evil. But if you rely in the internet for your info, of course you will get the most salacious and notorious descriptions of human behavior associated with religion. But again, it is a distorted perception of religion.
    We are not a sad race. The news paints a sad story, but if you actually leave the wonderful worldwide web and travel in the real world, and see the human race in action, I think you would be shocked at how many people are leaving good and happy peaceful lives. Even though the news tells us otherwise, the reality is, there is much more goodness in the world...and much of it is because of the billions of good people who believe that wacky fairytale about God, and are striving for goodness that religion teaches.
    Peace
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from thedude6752000 in Visa overstays get amnesty... They break the law, and then get to stay...   
    The moral high ground you stand on may be a bit out of reach for some us....but, I suppose we have to try. For starters, I'm not sure how the immigration "flaws" could be solved without a political "tinge"...kinda how the whole America, laws, government thing works.
    And yes, I get that life a a legal immigrant is preferred - of course. But sadly, few privileges and protections are being denied - beyong the vague threat of being deported. But if people actually feared that, we wouldn't have millions of illegals. And when illegal immigrants sign their kids up for school, or head to the hospital to give birth for free, they are hardly "living in the shadows." I know, I'm sure there are heart tugging tales about "living in the shadows"....but, you made your bed right...so lie in it.
    Its not apples and oranges. Thats like saying there should be a different application of laws for people who have already committed a crime...I mean, the murder has been done already, so why bother filling up the jails...too messy...too expensive...too complicated. If a law is made, then it must apply to all equally. Again, kinda the whole America, constitution, rule of law thing we supposedly have going on here. Illegal immigration is illegal. End of story. Solution: enforce the law. Expensive? Yeah. Could take decades? Yeah. People gonna get hurt? Sure. But a country where laws can suddenly not apply to some...scary. America continues to work hard to reach that ideal, and I don't think there is any justification for taking such a troubling leap backwards.
    We can all be apples. But in order to to have a happy healthy orchard, we need to follow the laws of growing apples. We can't expect a stray apple, tossed over the fence to bloom and blossom in the orchard. Clear out the stray apples, and send them through the correct processes so they can grow and live their lives "out of the shadows." But don't expect amnesty to turn all those stray apples into a blloming orchard. I think you are missing the point.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Karee in Visa overstays get amnesty... They break the law, and then get to stay...   
    The moral high ground you stand on may be a bit out of reach for some us....but, I suppose we have to try. For starters, I'm not sure how the immigration "flaws" could be solved without a political "tinge"...kinda how the whole America, laws, government thing works.
    And yes, I get that life a a legal immigrant is preferred - of course. But sadly, few privileges and protections are being denied - beyong the vague threat of being deported. But if people actually feared that, we wouldn't have millions of illegals. And when illegal immigrants sign their kids up for school, or head to the hospital to give birth for free, they are hardly "living in the shadows." I know, I'm sure there are heart tugging tales about "living in the shadows"....but, you made your bed right...so lie in it.
    Its not apples and oranges. Thats like saying there should be a different application of laws for people who have already committed a crime...I mean, the murder has been done already, so why bother filling up the jails...too messy...too expensive...too complicated. If a law is made, then it must apply to all equally. Again, kinda the whole America, constitution, rule of law thing we supposedly have going on here. Illegal immigration is illegal. End of story. Solution: enforce the law. Expensive? Yeah. Could take decades? Yeah. People gonna get hurt? Sure. But a country where laws can suddenly not apply to some...scary. America continues to work hard to reach that ideal, and I don't think there is any justification for taking such a troubling leap backwards.
    We can all be apples. But in order to to have a happy healthy orchard, we need to follow the laws of growing apples. We can't expect a stray apple, tossed over the fence to bloom and blossom in the orchard. Clear out the stray apples, and send them through the correct processes so they can grow and live their lives "out of the shadows." But don't expect amnesty to turn all those stray apples into a blloming orchard. I think you are missing the point.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Mollie09 in Visa overstays get amnesty... They break the law, and then get to stay...   
    The moral high ground you stand on may be a bit out of reach for some us....but, I suppose we have to try. For starters, I'm not sure how the immigration "flaws" could be solved without a political "tinge"...kinda how the whole America, laws, government thing works.
    And yes, I get that life a a legal immigrant is preferred - of course. But sadly, few privileges and protections are being denied - beyong the vague threat of being deported. But if people actually feared that, we wouldn't have millions of illegals. And when illegal immigrants sign their kids up for school, or head to the hospital to give birth for free, they are hardly "living in the shadows." I know, I'm sure there are heart tugging tales about "living in the shadows"....but, you made your bed right...so lie in it.
    Its not apples and oranges. Thats like saying there should be a different application of laws for people who have already committed a crime...I mean, the murder has been done already, so why bother filling up the jails...too messy...too expensive...too complicated. If a law is made, then it must apply to all equally. Again, kinda the whole America, constitution, rule of law thing we supposedly have going on here. Illegal immigration is illegal. End of story. Solution: enforce the law. Expensive? Yeah. Could take decades? Yeah. People gonna get hurt? Sure. But a country where laws can suddenly not apply to some...scary. America continues to work hard to reach that ideal, and I don't think there is any justification for taking such a troubling leap backwards.
    We can all be apples. But in order to to have a happy healthy orchard, we need to follow the laws of growing apples. We can't expect a stray apple, tossed over the fence to bloom and blossom in the orchard. Clear out the stray apples, and send them through the correct processes so they can grow and live their lives "out of the shadows." But don't expect amnesty to turn all those stray apples into a blloming orchard. I think you are missing the point.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from The Nature Boy in Visa overstays get amnesty... They break the law, and then get to stay...   
    So obvious and so frustrating I want to scream!
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Cheezees in Are we filing a "JOINT" I-751??   
    Thank you all!!
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    SaharaSunset reacted to Mithra in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    I totally could've done without the whole sex discussion. I'm no prude but seriously that was unnecessary. Just because the OP's husband is a freak down for whatever with whomever and off of Craigslist no less doesn't mean all or most or many MENA ppl are like that. Her husband and some random Iranian lol. I love this forum!
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    SaharaSunset reacted to kristen_maroc in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    Sorry- if you take what someone says at face value and use it to perpetuate stereotypes, you aren't just an innocent messenger.
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from kristen_maroc in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    Okay, so I am a teacher, and I teach a course on World Religions. Sadly, I am constantly battling the ignorant stereotypes of my students about Islam. As I listen to my students make conclusions that all Muslims are terrorists, I have come to loathe stereotypes in all its forms. My student's conclusions are based on limited information - but to them, their feeling are very real and very valid. They base their stereotypes on what they have heard from others & what they have seen on TV. All they need to do is make connections between Islam and 9/11, and its nearly impossible to convince them otherwise. But they are wrong. And it is my passion as a teacher to broaden their horizons, and clear their minds of ignorance. I start by putting a stop to the sweeping, ignorant stereotypes.
    So I apologize if it seems harsh Rosesarered, but I find your comments and stereotypes of Moroccans painfully ignorant. Yes I know you are not stereotyping Islam. But your attempt to stereotype all Moroccan men has a similar effect. You are perpetuating uneducated stereotypes about other cultures. And I do in fact find that, in and of itself, offensive and ignorant. Who are you to make authoritative statements about Moroccan men, just because you used poor judgement when you chose a husband?
    It seems that you base your claims on your personal marriage. And yet we have no way of knowing the real reason your marriage ended. You might have been selfish, cold, or stubborn. Who knows? But we do know that you have absolved yourself of ANY responsibility by laying the claim that it was a scam, and that all Moroccan men are most likely scammers. You also make these ignorant claims based on your personal observations of the people who come to this website - As if that is some sort of conclusive study or set of statistics. And yet you have no idea what percentage of people involved in International Moroccan marriages actually come to this website. So your conclusions are totally skewed.
    You might feel you are doing good to "warn others" about big bad Moroccan Scamming men. But its a shame you choose to "help others" by stereotyping other human beings, as opposed to, for example, taking personal responsibility for your choice. And although I really do respect the fact that you feel you are trying to help others. Stereotypes never accomplish anything beyond spreading ignorance and hate.
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    SaharaSunset reacted to sandinista! in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    No one criticized her though for not getting married in the first place. No one should get married, if they're not feeling it, 110%. That lady's situation was STUPID. She screwed up, and had no business petitioning a visa in the first place. But that horse was already out of the barn. At least she didn't compound the drama by getting married anyways.
    I gotta appreciate the absurdity of platitudes about fly's [sic] and vinegar, and God based religions and love from the OP who dropped the nonsense you did from your very first post, and random nonsense about MENA culture and socio norms. Applause.
    And anyone calling you out on your BS is just a big meanie, who needs to get a life. Awesome coming from someone spewing what you have, just awesome. I'll take being a non candy coated realist over being someone trying to spread ####### all over anyone married to a moroccan because you chose a loser.
    You can come here and talk about how you were wronged, and how sad it is this didn't all work out for you. Very few people will criticize that. But leave other people out of your own individual messes.
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    SaharaSunset reacted to Cathi in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    I'm not a teacher and I'm constantly battling the stereotypes of Muslims with friends and some of my family. People believe everything they read in the news as gospel. It gets tiring, but I feel the need to defend my husband and his religion. Islam is a religion of over a billion people, different cultures and countries, and every one of them is judged by the stupidity of a select few, it's maddening. This weekend my husband and and I went to see the movie Lone Survivor, I won't tell you how the movie ends, but I will say at the end it shows what Islam is really about, it was refreshing, the movie is a true story. On the way out of the theater my husband said to me " I'm glad the movie portrayed REAL Muslims truthfully", I was thinking the same even before he said a word. I have said this so many times on this site, there are scammers from every country, every age, male and female alike, just because someone married a POS scammer slime ball thief liar from a certain country doesn't make everyone from said country the same. Every marriage on the face of the Earth could potentially end in divorce, there are users and abusers from every corner of the planet, my ex was one and he is AMERICAN. Does this make every man from the US just like him? No it doesn't. So stating that very man from Morocco or from a MENA country only wants to marry a US citizen for a green card is totally absurd. I'm not shooting the messenger, I'm just saying that the messenger's messenger is full of #######.
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    SaharaSunset reacted to sandinista! in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    Minus the totally small, irrelevant detail that this woman knew something was up, and took action immediately, as opposed to staying married to the guy for SEVEN YEARS. No one here is defending your ex husband. No one knows him. You brought this whole mess here to talk about, and that's what people have done. In discussing what you've shared, some people have raised other possibilities to explain various behaviors, or what may have happened. That's the thing about marriages in MENA, they're extremely diverse, complicated, and all kinds of things play into why they work or not. But you've done nothing but try to pigeonhole this diverse experience, shared by lots and lots of people here, into whatever defense mechanisms and 'universal truths' about MENA people and marriages your brain has concocted. Punctuated with some feeble explanation about the sociology of MENA people's sex lives and whatnot that borders on being straight up racist. Not everyone here is down with that, regardless of what some Iranians randomly share with you.
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    SaharaSunset reacted to Peace.... in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    ROSESARERED,
    You have posted this below and honestly, when I read this from your own words, I was in disbelief that anyone could say such horrible things about a Muslim woman or man, or even a moroccan. Just horrible
    They still have sex they just have to hide it, buy it or from what I have been told, it is common for men to have sex with each other because it does not seem as bad to them as sex with a woman not your wife. I have even heard that girls will have ####### sex and not vaginal because they wont risk being found out (losing virginity) so even though these things seem strange here, it is accepted although shunned there. So when men (women too maybe) get here they realize "hey I can do this now!" and the little demons come out of them and unfortunately hurt others
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    SaharaSunset got a reaction from Cathi in A Moroccan man just gave me some advice...you may not like it tho....   
    Okay, so I am a teacher, and I teach a course on World Religions. Sadly, I am constantly battling the ignorant stereotypes of my students about Islam. As I listen to my students make conclusions that all Muslims are terrorists, I have come to loathe stereotypes in all its forms. My student's conclusions are based on limited information - but to them, their feeling are very real and very valid. They base their stereotypes on what they have heard from others & what they have seen on TV. All they need to do is make connections between Islam and 9/11, and its nearly impossible to convince them otherwise. But they are wrong. And it is my passion as a teacher to broaden their horizons, and clear their minds of ignorance. I start by putting a stop to the sweeping, ignorant stereotypes.
    So I apologize if it seems harsh Rosesarered, but I find your comments and stereotypes of Moroccans painfully ignorant. Yes I know you are not stereotyping Islam. But your attempt to stereotype all Moroccan men has a similar effect. You are perpetuating uneducated stereotypes about other cultures. And I do in fact find that, in and of itself, offensive and ignorant. Who are you to make authoritative statements about Moroccan men, just because you used poor judgement when you chose a husband?
    It seems that you base your claims on your personal marriage. And yet we have no way of knowing the real reason your marriage ended. You might have been selfish, cold, or stubborn. Who knows? But we do know that you have absolved yourself of ANY responsibility by laying the claim that it was a scam, and that all Moroccan men are most likely scammers. You also make these ignorant claims based on your personal observations of the people who come to this website - As if that is some sort of conclusive study or set of statistics. And yet you have no idea what percentage of people involved in International Moroccan marriages actually come to this website. So your conclusions are totally skewed.
    You might feel you are doing good to "warn others" about big bad Moroccan Scamming men. But its a shame you choose to "help others" by stereotyping other human beings, as opposed to, for example, taking personal responsibility for your choice. And although I really do respect the fact that you feel you are trying to help others. Stereotypes never accomplish anything beyond spreading ignorance and hate.
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