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called another USCIS officer and another reply: wait and see waht you get in your mail....geez approve it or not and end our misery..either a a or b plan....come on!!!!

Is it maybe an RFE??

It have crossed our minds, but the officer at the USCIS said taht if it was a RFE it would have said it's a request for evidence..not card/document production.... so we're thinking.....what do they say if they deny it? I want to be prepared for the worst scenario...

I have seen this once before in the last 3 months on these forums but this step (Card/Document Production) doesn't fit into the steps of what you're attempting to do if you've submitted an I129f to be able to apply for a K1.

This might be a good time to call the USCIS?

okay, if the ppl at the USCIS said they don't know anything and told you to wait and see if you get anything in mail...would you?...it's hilarious...al we want is a simple NOA2:)

Okay people...need some info from anyone who's petition was ever denied, what did the email say?

geeez we're freaking out!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah would have to agree you don't get a card for a 129f petition, seems strange indeed, best give them a call. You did apply for 129f petition yes? Fiance

Yep that's exactly what we did...I-129f...so we're waiting for NOA2... so we're just waiting now...to find out...my fiance just called USCIS..and the officer said that she cant say anything or check anything..and just to wit and see what we get in our mail...weird..I told my fiance to wait an hour and call again in an hour and talk to some othe officer...

Just yesterday my fiance went to to field office ( we made an appointmet via infopass) to get some update and to try to find out if we can have the interview in Dublin when the time comes...instead of Poland where I'm from ( i live in Dublin)...and today this all of a sudden......I'm thinking they probably just made the decision in regards to our request for a consulate preferance...My fiance is talking to USCIS now....

We are waiting for our NOA2...it's been 127 days since our NOA1...what does this mean:

*** DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL ***

The last processing action taken on your case

Receipt Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Application Type: I129F , PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)

Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production

On March 24, 2011, your document I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) was processed and mailed to the address on record. If you have not received it within 30 days of March 24, 2011, contact customer service at 1-800-375-5283. If you move while your case is pending, please call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.

This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results

listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current

processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)

I am a US citizen and applying for my mother's green card who is in US on visitor visa. I live in Michigan. My mother is visiting my brother (green card holder) who lives in Boston. She went to a Civil surgeon in Boston and got the I-695 from the doctor. My brother wrote his contact address in the I-695 form. Is it necessary to write my address there? In I-485, I am writing my address as her contact info. In G-325a, in the section 'Applicant's residence last 5 years' I am writing the current address (first address) as mine and before that I wrote my brother's address with end date of '03/2011' (same time when she was in Boston).

Please advice if this will work? I am very confused. Thank you.

I'm afraid your mother will have to leave the country by the time her visitor's visa expires. Is she on a B2 visa and you want to adjust from that? Very risky and very unlikely if you ask me...

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You put the address of U.S embassy in the country where your fiance- beneficiary resides. So you got it right.

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Sorry - you only put that address if you submitting it to the consulate, but I'm guessing you'll be sending it to the USCIS, therefore you should put their info - and so should your fiance.

You put the address of U.S embassy in the country where your fiance- beneficiary resides. So you got it right.

He was sad? Really?? Deep down in his very heart, no doubt...

Deep down in his pocket/wallet/bank account! No doubt that!

Don't get me started on using lawyers... If I could turn back time and not use our lawyer, I would have done it in a heart beat! It's much easier than it looks like, and your case seems pretty straight forward...I honestly think you guys could do it yourselves- you have all those great resources on VJ, and will always get advice from its members.

If you do use the lawyer - always double ask questions and always double check everything yourself - for the lawyers it's just some easy money, and they tend to forget to do a decent work while on the job... Good luck and welcome to VJ!

It's up to 3 months. Usually they are able to process it in around 2-month-time.

You know I would probably be nice as pie to her face so that she doesn't realise what's about to hit till she gets the call about her idiocy. Otherwise she has time to find ways to back herself up, or to say you came in and yelled in her face and were inappropriate or something.

I would simply say "Thank you for your assistance with the K1. We won't be requiring your services for Adjustment of Status.". If she argues that's when I'd say "It took me more than a week to explain the LAW to my LAWYER. You refused to listen. You kept stating you were right which would have cost me $420 that I really don't need to waste, let alone the fact I know that filing an I-130 when it's not required causes MASSIVE delays in our case. One gentleman is STILL waiting a year later.. all because of filing an I-130 when it wasn't required. I simply cannot trust that you know what you're doing.".

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Good idea, I think she deserves to be cought by surprise... I will put my best smile on and complain to the bar

You can do your AOS without that so called lawyer, in fact you can go all the way through citizenship without one, we didn't use lawyer, from K1 to now ROC. Read the AOS guide ontop of the website. good luck and fire her asap

Sure we can! I didn;t know that until we found VJ. Now I know we can do it all by ourselves! Thanks, we will need all the luck...we're still waiting for our NOA2!!!

So she's realised that you don't need the I-130 now? Good.

Once you've arrived, fire her, then make a complaint about her. Then file AOS yourself 'cause you're SURE gunna be fine without her :S

Yes, she finally did! God that was hard! You'd think she's a lawyer so she should be the one explaing you stuff!

Trust me, I can't wait to sit down in a chair in front of her and show her all the emails she wrote, nicely printed - all her gibberish higlighted...and fire her ####! and for sure we will let appropriate offices know about her obvious malpractice...

The devil's in the details...as any lawyer ought to know. Ok, I'm gonna go through how you might break this down for her. 'Cause this kind of willful ignorance really gets me going, especially when she's trying to take your hard-earned money.

You can point out to her that the full paragraph reads:

"You must include a copy of the Form I-797C, Notice of Action, of an approved Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative, or form I-360, Petition for Amerasian, Widow(er), or Special Immigrant, or other official document reflecting a current priority date and family preference, or file your application together with a Form I-130 or Form I-360 as appropriate."

Hmmm...what could that "other official document" be? Perhaps an approval notice for the I-129F?

And then, a few paragraphs later:

"D. K-1 Fiance(e) (and K-2 dependents) whose Form I-485 is based on an approved Form I-129F, Petition for Alien Fiance(e), (Part 2, Box "c" on the form);"

So...as this clearly states, your application is based on an approved Form I-129F...not an I-130. Ok, lets read the actual form, and find the "Part 2, Box "c"", and it reads:

"I entered as a K-1 fiance(e) of a U.S. citizen whom I married within 90 days of entry, or I am the K-2 child of such a fiance(e). (Attach a copy of the fiance(e) petition approval notice and the marriage certificate.)"

Contrast this with box "a" that instructs to attach a copy of an immigrant petition notice OR file a petition with it. Two different classes of applicants. K-1s are clearly a special case.

Honestly, has this woman ever done a K-1 adjuster or ONLY adjusters from other visas? And ask her to explain how thousands of K-1 adjusters on VisaJourney filed without an I-130 and managed to get approved.

Good luck trying to get it through her head! I really hope you do, so she doesn't screw up anyone else's case.

Well, that's exactly what I pointed out! What's more, We have called the USCIS and quoted her what the officer there said. Then she replied that she did some research in her 'wise immigration law books' and she said that yes, we don;t need the I-130 petition if we get married withing 90 days...and gave a bunch of excuses to cover up her lack of knowledge...

It's really frustrating...what's our plan? We're still waiting for our NOA2, I've decided to all the things myslef from now on. And when I'm in States safe'n'sound, I will pay her a visit and tell her what i think and file a complaint to the bar ( I have all her misinformation episodes in my email, i kept all the emails)..we just decided we're not gonna do it now..since we have a lot of stress as it is now.

Definitely no lawyer. We hired a lawyer in the beginning of our journey, before we found out about VJ. You'll find all your answers here. VJ members are really helpful! Our lawyer (who seemed knowledgeable and trustworthy) turned out to be a total disaster - now we stress not only because of the whole process, but also because of our lawyer who caused more confusion and stress! Please check my two posts and see how major mistakes she made!

If you end up getting a lawyer anyway, please do the research and make sure you know what you're up against...

Dear VJ members...So i had a small emailing back and forth with our lawyer...in relation to if we need to file I-130 with our AOS...

Okay...I knew she's gonna write sth and try to cover up that mistake, okay dear VJ members, what do you have to say about that :

"Good Afternoon, Ela:

I've attached the I-485 instructions with a highlighted section on page 5. If you break that paragraph down, this is what you get:

You must include a copy of:

· the Form I-797C, Notice of Action, of an approved Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative,

· or Form I-360, Petition for Amerasian, Widow(er), or Special Immigrant, or other official document reflecting a current priority date and family preference,

· or file your application together with a Form I-130 or Form I-360 as appropriate.

The last bullet point (as I've formatted it) makes it clear that an I-130 is required.

I understand your concern to make sure the petitions that I file are the appropriate ones for your case, and I commend you for your desire to get verification. However, just to calm any additional worries you may have, I have more than 5 years experience in filing these applications, which includes submitting a Form I-130, and I have yet to have an adjustment of status application based on marriage denied.

Thank you.

XXX "

Any comments???? I'm not sure if I should start laughing or crying...I'm just soooooo angry at her!!!

Okay...I knew she's gonna write sth and try to cover up that mistake, okay dear VJ members, what do you have to say about that :

"Good Afternoon, Ela:

I've attached the I-485 instructions with a highlighted section on page 5. If you break that paragraph down, this is what you get:

You must include a copy of:

· the Form I-797C, Notice of Action, of an approved Form I-130, Petition for Alien Relative,

· or Form I-360, Petition for Amerasian, Widow(er), or Special Immigrant, or other official document reflecting a current priority date and family preference,

· or file your application together with a Form I-130 or Form I-360 as appropriate.

The last bullet point (as I've formatted it) makes it clear that an I-130 is required.

I understand your concern to make sure the petitions that I file are the appropriate ones for your case, and I commend you for your desire to get verification. However, just to calm any additional worries you may have, I have more than 5 years experience in filing these applications, which includes submitting a Form I-130, and I have yet to have an adjustment of status application based on marriage denied.

Thank you.

XXX "

Any comments???? I'm not sure if I should start laughing or crying...I'm just soooooo angry at her!!!

Just curious, where exactly did she get the idea that she should send it to Vermont? The instructions for the I-129F clearly state that it should be sent to the Dallas Lockbox and Vermont is not mentioned even one time in the entire 7 page. I've heard of this happening a couple of times before and I am just wondering where this misinformation about the address comes from.

http://www.uscis.gov...i-129finstr.pdf

I'm actually curious as well! In our case...all the misinformation we came across came from our lawyer!

Everyone's right - it should've been sent to Texas - you have the address in I-129f instructions. What happens now:

either

1. It gets rejected and sent back to you - then you just have to resend it to the right lockbox.

or

2. they will send it to the lockbox and the lockbox will allocate to appropriate service centre ( not very likely I think, but maybe that's why it's taking so long for you to hear anything)

I think they need to follow the protocol for that. I'd suggest giving them a call at 1-800-375-5283.

I would suggest to her that she has not provided the service contracted and that you would like a refund and to part company amicably. The alternative being a complaint to the bar association. Why should you be paying her and also educating her?

As I said, it has crossed my mind. The only thing is we are still waiting for our NOA2 and with everything going on at the moment- we can't afford to get distracted and focus on dealing with our lawyer...to much going on - waiting for NOA2, getting all the docs for the 2nd part, and trying to plan our wedding, which needs to happen right after I get to the U.S, as my fiance and I need to go abroad few months after that to attend my brother's wedding... above all - I'm in Ireland, my fiance is In California...it's hard enough as it is...

Besides...I don't know how they work, but since we also filed the form introducing her as our representative while we filed I-129f, I'm kinda worried we get ourselves in a mess if we start acting on it now...

Hey you might be able to get a refund on the Fee. Its called malpractice, Anyone who charges for information and then gives the wrong information clearly as evidenced in the previous postings you can complain to the bar association and possibly get your fee refunded, but its such a hassle and you have enough to worry about. I would think as a professional in Immigration law, The lawyer should know all the rules and regulations pertaining to the subject. not have to be educated by the client.

You know, It actually crossed my mind....BUT...yep, there's a but...with all that K1 still going on- we're still waiting for a NOA2...it's not the time to be focusing on sth else... I do have everything in writing though..all the mistakes she made, in my email and her excuses as well... so we'll see.

I hired a lawyer also, was such a waste of money. Didn't really need one as it was I did all the work filing the forms etc. I think this is a cash cow thing for them(Lawyers). Do no actual work and collect a fee....No wonder the country's going broke its all run by lawyers...lol

I feel your pain! If we only knew...Oh well, we'll be much smarter next time!

Maybe direct her to VJ and she can actually learn something for her profession LOL!

I know, that wouldn't be such a bad idea VJ should start charging lawyers for information!