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Illegal immigrants from India on the rise

Experts say many come to U.S. legally, overstay visas

By JAMES PINKERTON

2007 Houston Chronicle

The fastest-growing group of illegal immigrants in the United States doesn't speak Spanish. They typically aren't found at day labor sites or streaming across the Southwest border into the U.S.

Instead, they're here in America working in tech companies, small businesses, as engineers or other highly skilled jobs. And they're coming from India.

The profile of the illegal immigrant may need to take on a slightly more South Asian persona since a recent federal report revealed that India had the greatest percentage increase in unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. since 2000.

Illegal immigrants from India grew to 270,000 in 2006 from 120,000 in 2000, a 125 percent increase, according to a report late last month from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Undocumented Indians, however, remain a small segment of the total estimated population of 11.6 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. Mexico tops the list with 6.6 million — up from 4.7 million in 2000 — followed by El Salvador and Guatemala, according to the Homeland Security report.

Locally, this trend is especially relevant since Indians make up one of the fastest-growing immigrant groups in Harris County, with 35,971 counted in the 2000 Census. They also represent a highly visible and influential immigrant community. The Houston area has 6,629 businesses owned by Indian-Americans, according to the most recent Census Bureau data.

Experts say illegal Indian immigrants are coming here legally on visas but are overextending their stays and subsequently slipping under the radar screen of authorities.

'The system is broken'

Immigration lawyer Bruce Coane said Indians have replaced Mexicans as the largest group of clients at his Houston practice. He estimates that more than 1,000 Indians in the Houston area do not have legal status to remain here.

''The numbers are large because there are just so many coming to the United States, and almost all of them are coming legally," said Coane, referring to the undocumented population. ''And over time, they fall out of legal status."

The most recent government data showed that in fiscal year 2005, Indians received 194,611 temporary work visas to come to the U.S., the most of any nation. India eclipsed Mexico, which had 169,786 of its workers admitted, and the United Kingdom with 156,635.

Coane and other immigration attorneys stressed that most Indian immigrants come here legally to work, go to school, visit as tourists or conduct business.

''In most cases, they're trying to do everything the right way, but because the system is broken, they fall out of status," said Coane, referring to lengthy waits to become a permanent resident.

More than half of Indian immigrants who came to the U.S. in fiscal year 2005 — about 102,000 — arrived on the H-1B visa for the highly skilled. So, typically, they aren't going to be busted by immigration agents during raids at meat-processing plants such as those owned by Swift & Co., the site of high-profile investigations last year.

''We have not come across many illegal Indian immigrants in Houston," said Robert Rutt, special agent in charge of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Houston. ''Most are Mexicans, South and Central Americans, and some Chinese."

Lax federal oversight cited

There is debate in the Indian community about why immigrants become illegal, and just how many reside in Houston.

''My knowledge tells me that most of the Indians we interact with are highly educated — doctors, engineers and business owners," said Jagdip Ahluwalia, director of the Indo-American Chamber of Commerce. ''I personally have not run into any undocumented Indians here, and I've lived here for many years."

Faisal Amin, board member of the South Asian Chamber of Commerce in Houston, said lax oversight of the federal guest workers program is one reason many Indians stay here when their visas expire.

''We see an increase simply because a lot of those workers are coming in on H1-B visas," Amin said. "And, we don't have a good way to track that these workers are, indeed, going back to their countries when they're finished."

One U.S. Department of Homeland Security official, who asked not be be identified, agreed there isn't a method to keep tabs on guest workers.

''Once they get in, there's no exit program in place yet — they're talking about it," the official said.

A dozen years ago, India native Ravinder Kour came to Houston with her husband on a tourist visa. They found opportunity and stayed after their visas expired, which turned them into illegal residents. Meanwhile, they were raising two children who were born here.

But now Kour, a 39-year-old housewife, and her husband are hoping to regain their legal status with the help of an immigration attorney.

''There are no jobs" in India, said Kour. ''That's why so many Indian people are coming here."

Bad advice, bad situation

After arriving in Houston the couple decided to try to remain legally. They were advised by an immigration lawyer to make a claim for political asylum, which was rejected, and the couple was ordered deported after not attending a hearing, said attorney Gordon Quan.

''They weren't trying to cheat anyone; they got bad advice," Quan said.

Kour is being assisted by her brother-in-law, Surinder Singh, 47, who also came to Houston on a tourist visa. He lived the life of an illegal immigrant until becoming a citizen in 2003.

''We can't fly, if you want to go somewhere, you have to go by car," Singh said. ''If you do something bad, and don't have papers, you will be in trouble."

The Houston housewife said she constantly worries about immigration problems.

"It's a big, big depression," Kour said.

Quan, her attorney, noted the federal government assigns a quota of immigrant visas to each country, and with so many Indians here on temporary work and other visas, the demand outstrips the supply.

''It's not first-come, first-serve," Quan said. ''A certain percentage is given to each country. Since there are so many Indians that are skilled, and being sponsored by employers, their backlog is longer than other countries."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5124255.html

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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I worked with a company that imported foreign programmers. Many were from Russia but do recall seeing several from India. This company has been contracting their coding to India for years.

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'The system is broken'

Faisal Amin, board member of the South Asian Chamber of Commerce in Houston, said lax oversight of the federal guest workers program is one reason many Indians stay here when their visas expire.

One U.S. Department of Homeland Security official, who asked not be be identified, agreed there isn't a method to keep tabs on guest workers.

Those 3 quotes say it all.

The retarded thing is that the morons want to increase the number of H1B's coming into our country.

How about fixing the problem first before adding more to it?

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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This problem isn't unique to H1-Bs. Foreign fiances, tourists, &c. Once someone is here, odds are they're staying here. I don't see a way around it in an open society, or at least not one I can imagine most Americans being happy about the price tag.

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Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

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This problem isn't unique to H1-Bs. Foreign fiances, tourists, &c. Once someone is here, odds are they're staying here. I don't see a way around it in an open society, or at least not one I can imagine most Americans being happy about the price tag.

I can see a way around it...stop handing out amnesties rewarding these people for breaking the law and eliminate birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Eliminate the incentives. It isn't draconian and it does not inhibit citizens and legal residents. Screw the illegal aliens and their sense of entitlement. ;)

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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This problem isn't unique to H1-Bs. Foreign fiances, tourists, &c. Once someone is here, odds are they're staying here. I don't see a way around it in an open society, or at least not one I can imagine most Americans being happy about the price tag.

I can see a way around it...stop handing out amnesties rewarding these people for breaking the law and eliminate birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Eliminate the incentives. It isn't draconian and it does not inhibit citizens and legal residents. Screw the illegal aliens and their sense of entitlement. ;)

Do you think most come here for birthright citizenship? If you want to stop people coming here, you have to take away our economic growth.

H1B visas are dual intent, you can legally immigrate here on an H1B. But its capped to 65,000 per year. Plus an extra 20,000 for those with advanced degrees (Masters or better). H1B's are good, as they bring in skilled immigrants to this country. If we don't increase the cap, more companies like Microsoft will be setting up shop in Canada. Then Canada would be getting the growth instead of us.

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This problem isn't unique to H1-Bs. Foreign fiances, tourists, &c. Once someone is here, odds are they're staying here. I don't see a way around it in an open society, or at least not one I can imagine most Americans being happy about the price tag.

I can see a way around it...stop handing out amnesties rewarding these people for breaking the law and eliminate birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Eliminate the incentives. It isn't draconian and it does not inhibit citizens and legal residents. Screw the illegal aliens and their sense of entitlement. ;)

Do you think most come here for birthright citizenship? If you want to stop people coming here, you have to take away our economic growth.

H1B visas are dual intent, you can legally immigrate here on an H1B. But its capped to 65,000 per year. Plus an extra 20,000 for those with advanced degrees (Masters or better). H1B's are good, as they bring in skilled immigrants to this country. If we don't increase the cap, more companies like Microsoft will be setting up shop in Canada. Then Canada would be getting the growth instead of us.

Canada needs all the help it can get. Spread the wealth. Better yet...maybe the growth can go to Mexico...they need need it more than the USA and Canada. ;)

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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This problem isn't unique to H1-Bs. Foreign fiances, tourists, &c. Once someone is here, odds are they're staying here. I don't see a way around it in an open society, or at least not one I can imagine most Americans being happy about the price tag.

I can see a way around it...stop handing out amnesties rewarding these people for breaking the law and eliminate birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Eliminate the incentives. It isn't draconian and it does not inhibit citizens and legal residents. Screw the illegal aliens and their sense of entitlement. ;)

They're not coming here for potential amnesty and birthright citizenship. They're coming here LEGALLY for a job... but sometimes they fall out of status (as has happened to a few VJ members when USCIS messed up their AOS packages) due to circumstances that are really outside their control and they're continuing to work anyway. No one is going to leave voluntarily because it's a good economic opportunity. The only way to keep them out is to keep them from coming here in the first place (perhaps a bad idea for retaining skilled talent, and besides, you're not against LEGAL immigration) or to conduct sweeps on technology firms. Or make it easier to adjust status from a H1-B. I wonder how many go out of status just waiting on the damned paperwork.

In Canada they'd likely be landed residents already and not have to jump through as many hoops.

I think your average white collar American may not care if a factory worker gets swept up in a raid but will probably balk at ICE storming their cubicles. On the other hand, that would be hilarious.

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Filed: 8/1/07

NOA1:9/7/07

Biometrics: 9/28/07

EAD/AP: 10/17/07

EAD card ordered again (who knows, maybe we got the two-fer deal): 10/23/-7

Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

Approved: 11/21/07

 

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