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Renouncing Indian citizenship - troubles with middle name

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Hello - i'm not sure if this is the right forum to ask this. @mods please feel free to move this to the correct forum.

 

my spouse is in a weird situation, she got her US citizenship and she did a name change in the process. her US Passport shows name as "X (first) Y (middle) Z (last)". her last Indian passport shows "X Z" with no middle name. Indian passport doesn't show a middle name option so we left that part out when we renewed her Indian passport before she got her US citizenship.

 

now when she filed to renounce her Indian citizenship, the VFS folks denied her application stating that the name on her citizenship document doesn't match the Indian passport name. we re-filed it with the name change affidavit only to get it rejected a second time. 
 

She tried reaching out to 3 different attorneys and none of them handle these kind of cases. we are baffled right now and don't know how to proceed. Since she's not technically an Indian citizen anymore (India doesn't allow dual citizenship), it doesn't make sense to change her name in India. She can't get a new Indian passport with "X Y Z" name anymore for the same reason.

 

Any idea folks? I believe we were supposed to add the middle name as part of Given name but it's too late now.

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Moved to the India Regional Forum as this appears to be country specific.

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8 hours ago, anotherimmigrant said:

Since she's not technically an Indian citizen anymore (India doesn't allow dual citizenship), it doesn't make sense to change her name in India. She can't get a new Indian passport with "X Y Z" name anymore for the same reason.

If the issue is technically moot, is there some reason to see it through regardless?

 

My only suggestion is to contact for advice either a consulate of India here in the U.S., or the U.S. embassy in India (U.S. Citizen Services).  If you try, let us know the outcome.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

If the issue is technically moot, is there some reason to see it through regardless?

 

My only suggestion is to contact for advice either a consulate of India here in the U.S., or the U.S. embassy in India (U.S. Citizen Services).  If you try, let us know the outcome.

Good idea, we'll reach out to the consulate and see if they have an answer. I hope they don't redirect us to VFS. 

 

As for why we want to get it done, I believe it's illegal to keep the Indian passport after acquiring a second citizenship. Not sure if she would run into any issues when she visits India without renounciation. 

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Interesting.  Double-check the legality and its ramifications at the same time, perhaps.  And (honest question) how would they know whether she's renounced or not?

 

Again, U.S. Citizen Services at the Embassy in India might be of help, if the consulate can't/doesn't.

 

Do report back.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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