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Hello,

I’ve been physically present in the United States for at least 913 days within the past five years. During this period, I also took a six-month trip abroad; however, I can provide a doctor’s letter stating that I was advised not to travel during the COVID-19 period. As a result, from the time I returned from that trip, I have 820 days of physical presence in the U.S.

In short:

 

– If counting the full five years and treating the six-month absence as an excused leave, I have more than 913 days in the U.S.

– If counting only from the date I returned from that absence, I have 820 days. 

 

I’m seeking advice on whether I should apply now and include the doctor’s letter with my application, or wait until I accumulate more days.

Thanks

Posted (edited)

There's two things: continuous residence and physical presence. You seem to be focused on physical presence ignoring continuous residence requirement 

 

Questions for you

1) When was this 6+ months trip?

2) When were you back to the US after this trip?

3) While you were away, did you maintain US job, US lease (or maybe you own your place?)

 

 

 

Edited by OldUser
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1. It was from September 21 to March 22

2. I stayed continually with trips outside of US under 6 months

3. No I'm a stay home mother, was a roommate with my brother for the. I can prove that both my children were here though  

Posted (edited)

So if you were back to the US in March 2022, you can safely apply for N-400 under 5 years rule with 4 year 1 day exception.

 

Example: You returned to the US on September 1, 2022. Then you can apply for N-400 on September 2nd 2026 or later. This is 4 years and 1 day since coming back to US from 6+ months trip.

 

You don't seem to have lease, you don't seem to have job. These are good pieces of evidence of maintaining continuous residence which you don't have.

 

You can file N-400 today, but you may get denied. Unless you prove to officer to his or her satisfaction you did not break residence. If you don't care too much about losing filing fee and getting denied and want to try - you can apply any time before September 2026. If you want to play safe - wait another year from now.

 

USCIS typically won't care about reasons why the continuous residence was broken. They're more interested in your proof of maintaining residence.

 

Edited by OldUser
Posted

Thanks for the explanations. In case of denial by applying before the mentioned date, will there be any penalties such as extending for another 4-5 years or it'd be just the application fee and re-applying later in 2026? 

Posted (edited)
  • The applicant’s immediate family members remained in the United States

Based on this clause both my son and daughter have been in the states during this period. would this be enough to support my continuity? My brother can draft a lease agreements for roommates as a proof of lease and I have zelle records that my son was paying for the room every month. 

 

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1 hour ago, MAX_Q said:

Thanks for the explanations. In case of denial by applying before the mentioned date, will there be any penalties such as extending for another 4-5 years or it'd be just the application fee and re-applying later in 2026? 

You can reapply as soon as you will be eligible. No other penalties other than losing fees.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MAX_Q said:
  • The applicant’s immediate family members remained in the United States

Based on this clause both my son and daughter have been in the states during this period. would this be enough to support my continuity? My brother can draft a lease agreements for roommates as a proof of lease and I have zelle records that my son was paying for the room every month. 

 

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Well, you don't want to fabricate lease now that didn't exist back then. It would be fraud.

 

You would have to convince the officer. Your son living there is a plus, but you yourself didn't have lease or job, which goes against your case claiming you maintained residence.

 

You can always try, maybe you'll be lucky.

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Posted

I came across another question. Where I travelled mid 2020 and came back on March 2021. Do I still need to list that on the application where it asks about my travel history in the past five years? my leave was before 5 year period but my return was within.  

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MAX_Q said:

I came across another question. Where I travelled mid 2020 and came back on March 2021. Do I still need to list that on the application where it asks about my travel history in the past five years? my leave was before 5 year period but my return was within.  

Sure you need to. Unless the entire trip was over 5 years ago, you need to list it even if only part of the trip is now in 5 year lookback window.

And this is the trip which can make you ineligible to naturalize now as discussed earlier 

Edited by OldUser
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***Hijack post and reply to said post removed; if you have a question about your own case, you need to start your own thread.***

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

July 23, 2025:  Filed N-400 online

 

 
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