Dirt-cheap day labor - The Basics

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

Daniel

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[Ban Hammer 14,271]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

Daniel

:energetic:

good planning can solve that. we plan on that and have a stopping point and continue it the next weekend. besides, such is always a good excuse to have more beers on both weekends due to that long project we're working on

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

Daniel

:energetic:

good planning can solve that. we plan on that and have a stopping point and continue it the next weekend. besides, such is always a good excuse to have more beers on both weekends due to that long project we're working on

that is an example of project not needed to be done in weekend. try again. beers can be drunk every weekend w/ or w/out a 'project'.

Daniel

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[Ban Hammer 14,271]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

Daniel

:energetic:

good planning can solve that. we plan on that and have a stopping point and continue it the next weekend. besides, such is always a good excuse to have more beers on both weekends due to that long project we're working on

that is an example of project not needed to be done in weekend. try again. beers can be drunk every weekend w/ or w/out a 'project'.

Daniel

:energetic:

i've not run into any projects that require assistance other than the occasional need for my neighbor to bring his tractor over. usually i do everything myself. i finished up one yard project that took me about 2.5 years to do, i'll post pics of such when i get back to kansas if you remind me about it next sat. perhaps you can give me an idea of what projects you are referring to needing an illegal to assist with that need to be finished on a weekend.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What if you want the project done - but don't want to spend your entire weekend on it?

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

i don't live in booneyville. my neighbors don't have tractors.

try removing a jackhammered patio out. and replace it. without having having to wait several weekends. remember.. no tractors.

Daniel

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[Ban Hammer 14,271]

i don't live in booneyville. my neighbors don't have tractors.

try removing a jackhammered patio out. and replace it. without having having to wait several weekends. remember.. no tractors.

Daniel

:energetic:

i call that a trip to the rent-a-center. or i just ask my neighbor to bring one home as he works in construction

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

You must have missed it but the actual low blow was the suggestion that anyone that isn't insanely rich but rules out hiring illegal labor is an idiot.

As for that project: Ever heard of family and friends?

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

You must have missed it but the actual low blow was the suggestion that anyone that isn't insanely rich but rules out hiring illegal labor is an idiot.

As for that project: Ever heard of family and friends?

touche. sorry i mdid miss that. AJ low blow too!

Family & friends... sure. plenty. but this is back breaking labor buddy. not subjecting my family and friends to this. nailing 2x4s and painiting, numerous times. picking up 40-100lbl jagged concrete and tossing into wheelbarrow, then picking it off of said wheelbarrow and up into dump truck? feel free to ask your family and friends to do so. i will hire help. thanks.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Ban Hammer 14,271]

With all the illegals around, you'd have to be either idiotic or insanely wealthy to rule out hiring low-cost illegal labor.

dude. not all of us are useless around the house. I'm quite the DIY'er. Many people outside of the NJ/NY area are.

Exactly. As I always say: I mow my own damn lawn. And do whatever else around the house. I learned how do do what needs to be done growing up. My dad had three sons and made damn sure not to raise sissies. Is that not how it's done in India, AJ?

low blow man.

apparently you never had the need to finish a job that called for more than could be done in a weekend by one man.

You must have missed it but the actual low blow was the suggestion that anyone that isn't insanely rich but rules out hiring illegal labor is an idiot.

As for that project: Ever heard of family and friends?

touche. sorry i mdid miss that. AJ low blow too!

Family & friends... sure. plenty. but this is back breaking labor buddy. not subjecting my family and friends to this. nailing 2x4s and painiting, numerous times. picking up 40-100lbl jagged concrete and tossing into wheelbarrow, then picking it off of said wheelbarrow and up into dump truck? feel free to ask your family and friends to do so. i will hire help. thanks.

Daniel

:energetic:

you just need to provide more beer. and probably bbq too

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

you just need to provide more beer. and probably bbq too

well maybe. but then will want to sleep it off at our house.

Daniel

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[Hilarious Clinton 452]

i don't live in booneyville. my neighbors don't have tractors.

try removing a jackhammered patio out. and replace it. without having having to wait several weekends. remember.. no tractors.

Daniel

:energetic:

i call that a trip to the rent-a-center. or i just ask my neighbor to bring one home as he works in construction

Yeah, rent equipment. Seems like some people really really like to hire illegals so they will come up with any excuse in the book. What happened to hard work in this country?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You guys must have nice jobs if you have so much spare time to do work around the house.

I have a lot of work I need to get done and very little time to do it. Hiring someone is pretty much my only option. Especially given that with my level of skills I'd need 2-3 times as much time as a skilled professional to get it right.

As for my original point - when you've made the decision to hire someone, to rule out a source of cheap labor is stupid.

[Heracles 417]

I hope no one gets raped or murdered. Another high cost of low price.

Most rapists and murders are actually citizens.

If you say most that leaves others who are not. To me any criminal activity is inexcusable by someone who is not legally permitted to be in a nation. The criminal should be punished accordingly as they clearly have no respect for the laws, authority or people of another nation.

Edited August 18, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Cassandra+Yuibi 0]

That's just lazy. I'd rather do it myself and risk being tired or sore from some manual labor and know its done RIGHT than pay 20 bucks for some random stranger to come to my home and 'fix' whatever for me. You get what you pay for. And if what you are paying for is illegal you might go to jail

Risk > Rewards? I think so. I'm not going to jail because I wanted Juan to paint my fence for $5 instead of doing it myself for free.