U.S. Set for a Crackdown on Illegal Hiring

[Dr_LHA 3]

What's wrong with the government making an effort to enfoce the law?

Is anyone saying there is anything wrong? I just have my doubts as to how effective it will be. To do this properly ICE needs funding and growth, not just a larger work load.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What's wrong with the government making an effort to enfoce the law?

Is anyone saying there is anything wrong? I just have my doubts as to how effective it will be. To do this properly ICE needs funding and growth, not just a larger work load.

So, rather than do what can be done with the resources available you'd advocate doing nothing at all? Is that your MO at your job, too? Do you work for the government by any chance?

[Dr_LHA 3]

What's wrong with the government making an effort to enfoce the law?

Is anyone saying there is anything wrong? I just have my doubts as to how effective it will be. To do this properly ICE needs funding and growth, not just a larger work load.

So, rather than do what can be done with the resources available you'd advocate doing nothing at all? Is that your MO at your job, too? Do you work for the government by any chance?

When did I advocate doing nothing exactly? You're putting words in my mouth. Please quote where I said that.

[peejay 327]

Peejay still on his soap box I see.

Don't blame the messenger for the bad news.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What's wrong with the government making an effort to enfoce the law?

Is anyone saying there is anything wrong? I just have my doubts as to how effective it will be. To do this properly ICE needs funding and growth, not just a larger work load.

So, rather than do what can be done with the resources available you'd advocate doing nothing at all? Is that your MO at your job, too? Do you work for the government by any chance?

When did I advocate doing nothing exactly? You're putting words in my mouth. Please quote where I said that.

You're suggesting that this will be a futile effort, yes?

[Dr_LHA 3]

You're suggesting that this will be a futile effort, yes?

No, I'm suggesting it won't be the catch all fix that some people seem to think it will be. It will certainly catch some offenders, but as I pointed out above, it does nothing to address those workers who work illegally without fake SSN numbers where their employers know full well they are illegal.

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You're suggesting that this will be a futile effort, yes?

No, I'm suggesting it won't be the catch all fix that some people seem to think it will be. It will certainly catch some offenders, but as I pointed out above, it does nothing to address those workers who work illegally without fake SSN numbers where their employers know full well they are illegal.

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

So, we're in agreement on this. The fix all this is not. But a good start it is.

[Heracles 417]

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

What would you suggest?

[Dr_LHA 3]

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

What would you suggest?

Having more ICE officers busting businesses, employ more people to enforce the current immigration laws and start making enforcement the norm rather than just a token effort. The number of procescutions of businesses for hiring illegal workers last year was laughably small, and has been steadily going down year by year. Why is this? Its either under funding of ICE or a lack of willingness of the DHS to actually do their job. Its time to change that.

Start off where it is worst: California, you can find companies that hire illegals openly there with a blindfold on. Actually punish employers rather than the illegals themselves, too many ICE raids are all about just grabbing illegals, the businesses go unpunished and just rehire more illegals.

All in all they need to be more aggressive with the enforcement

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[Ban Hammer 14,271]

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

What would you suggest?

Having more ICE officers busting businesses, employ more people to enforce the current immigration laws and start making enforcement the norm rather than just a token effort. The number of procescutions of businesses for hiring illegal workers last year was laughably small, and has been steadily going down year by year. Why is this? Its either under funding of ICE or a lack of willingness of the DHS to actually do their job. Its time to change that.

Start off where it is worst: California, you can find companies that hire illegals openly there with a blindfold on. Actually punish employers rather than the illegals themselves, too many ICE raids are all about just grabbing illegals, the businesses go unpunished and just rehire more illegals.

All in all they need to be more aggressive with the enforcement

i'd rather see both

[Dr_LHA 3]

I'm all for enforcement, my only issue is I want them to do more to actually fix the problem. This is a good first step.

What would you suggest?

Having more ICE officers busting businesses, employ more people to enforce the current immigration laws and start making enforcement the norm rather than just a token effort. The number of procescutions of businesses for hiring illegal workers last year was laughably small, and has been steadily going down year by year. Why is this? Its either under funding of ICE or a lack of willingness of the DHS to actually do their job. Its time to change that.

Start off where it is worst: California, you can find companies that hire illegals openly there with a blindfold on. Actually punish employers rather than the illegals themselves, too many ICE raids are all about just grabbing illegals, the businesses go unpunished and just rehire more illegals.

All in all they need to be more aggressive with the enforcement

i'd rather see both

A typo on my part, I meant "rather than just the illegals themselves".

[peejay 327]

Has it escaped anyone's notice that the Feds are doing this without passing any new laws? That fact in itself is very telling. It seems that we actually can enforce the law without a mass blanket amnesty of illegal aliens.

But I will wait to believe it when I actually see it. Talk is cheap and so far all I see is talk.

[smoke20 0]

maybe all the emails & phone calls did work....hoping for the best.

[Donna A 4]

geeezeeeee one minute they want to give amnesty and the next they wanna follow the law and take away their rights to work.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

geeezeeeee one minute they want to give amnesty and the next they wanna follow the law and take away their rights to work.

They have a right to work?