Embracing Illegals

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

[Dan J 277]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

i'm sure that many aspects of our daily lives include some labor provided by illegals. that does not mean they are indispensable.

is your job safe from illegals?

[L_n_O 3]

geez, post an article about illegals at 7 pm on a tuesday night and they flock like flies!

91 posts and counting!

this doesn't have to be like this..

we could all just agree that we disagree and move along..

there's nothing to see or argue about here

[smoke20 0]

Was it National Change Your Screenname Day While Caladan Was Getting Married day?

nah its the new rage, everybodys doing it. i thought you got the memo.

Speaking of which...what does your name mean? You smoke 20 a day?

no enabler fits much better. how does supporting an american business make me an enabler?

It would be hard to take me seriously if I stomped up and down in protest of Walmart's business practices if I continued to shop there, yes?

what?

sigh... Your complaint is that it's businesses who benefit from illegal immigrants, yes? So which ones have you boycotted so far?

everyone i know for a fact that does it.

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

no i boycott them. if i go into a resturant & its obvious there are illegals working there. i walk..after i voice my displeasure to the management believe it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Pretty much every business benefits directly or indirectly from illegal immigrants. Do you boycott all them too?

Really?

Unfair advantage

Richard Shaw, secretary-treasurer of the Harris County AFL-CIO, described wage theft among immigrant workers as a "big problem" in Houston.

Shaw said wage theft not only exploits immigrants but hurts legitimate businesses that pay their workers fair wages.

''When workers work for free ... it drives down wages for everyone else in the community," Shaw said. ''So if you're going into the lawn-care business legitimately, you're competing against employers who don't pay their workers."

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80645

That suggests that a few profit while the many suffer. As long as we're saying that the vast majority of businesses are in business legitimately which I believe is a reasonable statement.

[smoke20 0]

on the note of illegals......i have to ask all of you. how many of your jobs require you to be a usc? mine does

bueller? bueller?

me

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

there's nothing to see or argue about here

If that was true, this thread would be dead by now.

[L_n_O 3]

no i boycott them. if i go into a resturant & its obvious there are illegals working there. i walk..after i voice my displeasure to the management believe it.

And how exactly do you determine if they are in fact illegals? Do you ask them for their green card?

Or just by the color of their skin?

[Dan J 277]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

i'm sure that many aspects of our daily lives include some labor provided by illegals. that does not mean they are indispensable.

is your job safe from illegals?

The point smoke20 was trying to make that anyone who supports immigration reform is an enabler, but the reality is that if your a participant in the US economy you are an enabler. You cant really label someone an enabler, when you are so yourself.

From most illegal aliens yes, from outsouring, well not really. But my boss has had experience with outsouring and prefers developers in the US due to the way they work.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

Three quarters or better of agriculture workers are legally employed. The percentages are larger in the restaurant business. I'd like for the pro-illegal crowd to point me to the section in the grocery where I, the consumer, can benefit from the low wages that some growers pay to their illegal staff. Or to the restaurant that charges lower prices because of the lower wages they pay to their illegal staff. I keep looking but I cannot find it. Seeing that my tax dollar affords those illegals many government services, I'd like to have my break on the consumer end. But I pay prices that legitimate businesses charge whether the particular product I happen to purchase was produced by a lawful employee or an illegal. The only one benefiting is the enabler that employs the illegal. And my tax dollars are lining that enablers pockets. I'd rather not do that anymore.

Edited August 1, 2007 by Mr. Big Dog

[Dan J 277]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

Three quarters or better of agriculture workers are legally employed. The percentages are larger in the restaurant business. I'd like for the pro-illegal crowd to point me to the section in the grocery where I, the consumer, can benefit from the low wages that some growers pay to their illegal staff. Or to the restaurant that charges lower prices because of the lower wages they pay to their illegal staff. I keep looking but I cannot find it. Seeing that my tax dollar affords those illegals many government services, I'd like to have my break on the consumer end. But I pay prices that legitimate businesses charge whether the particular product I happen to purchase was produced by a lawful employee or an illegal. The only one benefiting is the enabler that employs the illegal. And my tax dollars are lining that enablers pockets. I'd rather not do that anymore.

Farmers markets?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

Three quarters or better of agriculture workers are legally employed. The percentages are larger in the restaurant business. I'd like for the pro-illegal crowd to point me to the section in the grocery where I, the consumer, can benefit from the low wages that some growers pay to their illegal staff. Or to the restaurant that charges lower prices because of the lower wages they pay to their illegal staff. I keep looking but I cannot find it. Seeing that my tax dollar affords those illegals many government services, I'd like to have my break on the consumer end. But I pay prices that legitimate businesses charge whether the particular product I happen to purchase was produced by a lawful employee or an illegal. The only one benefiting is the enabler that employs the illegal. And my tax dollars are lining that enablers pockets. I'd rather not do that anymore.

Farmers markets?

Farmers markets? So, all farmers employ illegals? The numbers - even those from the Pew Hispanic Center - tell a different story. And again, comparing various farmers markets, their prices seem to be pretty much in line with one another. Plus, they sell tons of produce that is not grown in the US. Or they make the effort to put stickers on that produce to cover their tracks. .

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

i'm sure that many aspects of our daily lives include some labor provided by illegals. that does not mean they are indispensable.

is your job safe from illegals?

The point smoke20 was trying to make that anyone who supports immigration reform is an enabler, but the reality is that if your a participant in the US economy you are an enabler. You cant really label someone an enabler, when you are so yourself.

From most illegal aliens yes, from outsouring, well not really. But my boss has had experience with outsouring and prefers developers in the US due to the way they work.

immigration reform is a different topic altogether.

[Dan J 277]

Everyone you know boycotts business who employ illegal immigrants? Name some. Do you eat at restaurants?

so every restaurant has an illegal?

No but many of them do, or use food that was grown with the help of illegal aliens.

Three quarters or better of agriculture workers are legally employed. The percentages are larger in the restaurant business. I'd like for the pro-illegal crowd to point me to the section in the grocery where I, the consumer, can benefit from the low wages that some growers pay to their illegal staff. Or to the restaurant that charges lower prices because of the lower wages they pay to their illegal staff. I keep looking but I cannot find it. Seeing that my tax dollar affords those illegals many government services, I'd like to have my break on the consumer end. But I pay prices that legitimate businesses charge whether the particular product I happen to purchase was produced by a lawful employee or an illegal. The only one benefiting is the enabler that employs the illegal. And my tax dollars are lining that enablers pockets. I'd rather not do that anymore.

Farmers markets?

Farmers markets? So, all farmers employ illegals? The numbers - even those from the Pew Hispanic Center - tell a different story. And again, comparing various farmers markets, their prices seem to be pretty much in line with one another. Plus, they sell tons of produce that is not grown in the US. Or they make the effort to put stickers on that produce to cover their tracks. .

Didn't say that. If you want a place to buy food thats not as likely to employ illegal immigrants, well there you go.