Anyone had a K1 visa experience with a statelessness spouse?

[Boiler 47,460]

So its not that he is stateless more that they have not bothered to even try and get the documentation needed.

[mikelowe 0]

Embajada de ALEMANIA

http://m.santo-domingo.diplo.de/Vertretung/santodomingo/es/Impressum.html

Contact them they may help your fiancee

I contacted them in May to no response! Just horrible

[mikelowe 0]

So its not that he is stateless more that they have not bothered to even try and get the documentation needed.

A combination of both... Stateless because he can't leave the DR to go to Germany to see if any documentation even exists (I don't trust his mother) because he can't get a passport or visa without any documentation to enter into any country. But he can't work or do anything in the DR for the same reason. I thought that was stateless... Edited July 28, 2016 by mikelowe

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

I contacted them in May to no response! Just horrible

Have your fiancee GO there. EVERYTHING in DR is an uphill battle.

But in DR EVERYTHING is possible with patience. Just beware of scams over there. It's a big problem.

Your fiancee needs to be more proactive and help you. (If they aren't)

Edited July 28, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

A combination of both... Stateless because he can't leave the DR to go to Germany to see if any documentation even exists (I don't trust his mother) because he can't get a passport or visa without any documentation to enter into any country. But he can't work or do anything in the DR for the same reason. I thought that was stateless...

Be EXTREMLY careful DR people are used to running scams. Make sure this isn't an excuse he may be using to get money from you.

How does this person support themselves with no job? And no family help??

[aaron2020 11,651]

This is so weird.

Why won't his mother help him?

Is she hiding something?

Was there a custody battle in Germany, so she took off with him?

Something strange is going on.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

I would make sure this person is indeed German. How do you know if they have no papers??? There are many blond hair white blue green eyed Dominicans (if yours is white with these attributes) so please don't let them run a scam on you.

People over there run many scams this does not add up!!

Edited July 28, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[jan22 3,174]

A combination of both... Stateless because he can't leave the DR to go to Germany to see if any documentation even exists (I don't trust his mother) because he can't get a passport or visa without any documentation to enter into any country. But he can't work or do anything in the DR for the same reason. I thought that was stateless...

Stateless is not just something that means he can't leave the country because he doesn't have papework that lets him do so or because he doesn't have proper work papers. Stateless means you do not qualify by law for citizenship of any country. Countries generally have laws that govern whether you are a citizen "jus soli" (right of the soil) where you are a citizen by virture of having been born in the country or "jus sanguinis" (right of the blood) where you are a citizen because one/both of your parents meet their country's laws for transmitting citizenship to their children born outside the home country. There are some countries where the children born to third country nationals in that country do not qualify for citizenship in the country and their parents do not meet the citizenship transmission requirements of their home country so the child is also not a citizen of their parents' home country. (Some but not all refugees are considered stateless, but that is certainly not the case here, so won't go into that. Statelessness can also occur when the country of nationality no longer exists such as when the USSR broke up; again, not the case here)

If he was born in Germany to German parents, he should be German. As others have pointed out, he should go to the German Embassy in Santo Domingo to see what his options are. Also, as others have said, he needed some documentation to get into the DR when he arrived. Has he checked with DR immigration to see what records they have for him? You also said he went to school there; are there any records the school has that might provide some documentation?

It, again, sounds like he is not stateless -- there are very few people in the world (thank goodness) that fall into that category. He needs to pursue all of the options available to him to get his citizenship documented.

Edited July 28, 2016 by jan22

[Pennycat 880]

In what way is he German? That's his only out, is to prove that, which as an adult he should be able to do without his mother (and with help of the German embassy). But, not for nothing, this whole situation stinks and badly. I'd spend a lot more time with this person and all of their friends and family before even considering a K1 with them. The likelihood of something like this being true vs this story being used as a cover for god-knows-what is astoundingly low.