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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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Recently, I had read in many posts that Male spouses from India or Pakistan are going through extensive administrative review by FBI :ph34r: + consulates. This is really ridiculous.....

First we have to wait for so long for the immigrationi process to finish, then go through a nerve recking visa interview and then the Adminsitrative review (which could take anywhere from 5-6 months).... :ranting:

Oh God, this is crazy........

what do you guys think of this? IS THERE ANY WAY TO AVOID THIS?

Any thoughts!!!! :huh2:

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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Well from receiving advice from multiple and helpful vj people, it's a very good idea to get in touch with your SO's congressperson. You have to take it multiple before they actually drill some sense into their heads, that is the Visa Officers head ;).


Our Timeline:

05.18.06-I-129F Petition sent to NSC

05.19.06-I-129F Petition rec'd by NSC

06.02.06-Rec'd NOA1

06.30.06-Rec'd RFE

07.03.06-Sent RFE to CSC

07.11.06-RFE rec'd by CSC - Reply

09.11.06-*APPROVED*

09.18.06-Rec'd NOA2

09.29.06-Sent I-129F pkg

10.04.06-Rec'd I-129F pkg

10.06.06-Embassy sent packet3

10.13.06-Form DS-230 to New Delhi Embassy

10.26.06-Rec'd initial packet3

11.08.06-Rec'd police certificate

11.08.06-Interview date thru email: DECEMBER 12, 2006 @ 8 AM

11.14.06-Rec'd interview letter snail mail

11.18.06-Medicals

11.22.06-Rec'd medicals

12.01.06-Packet4 to New Delhi Embassy

12.12.06-Interview - Still need passport clearance & co-sponsor

12.20.06-Sent co-sponsor info

01.03.07-Rec'd papers & passport clearance

01.04.07-Sent papers & passport to New Delhi Embassy - Rec'd

01.16.07-Passport sent out

01.18.07-Passport rec'd. No visa. Need more proof of relationship

01.24.07-Sent more proof of relationship

02.03.07-Rec'd proof

02.06.07-Sent to New Delhi Embassy

03.07.07-Rec'd passport. No passport. Papers back to NVC. Appeal!

---Currently corresponding w/Senator & Congresswoman of MO for help w/our case

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Filed: Other Country: India
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Recently, I had read in many posts that Male spouses from India or Pakistan are going through extensive administrative review by FBI :ph34r: + consulates. This is really ridiculous.....

First we have to wait for so long for the immigrationi process to finish, then go through a nerve recking visa interview and then the Adminsitrative review (which could take anywhere from 5-6 months).... :ranting:

Oh God, this is crazy........

what do you guys think of this? IS THERE ANY WAY TO AVOID THIS?

Any thoughts!!!! :huh2:

Wait a minute before you freak out! :)

We went through the K1 at Delhi, and Sujeet had no problems at the interview. Not every male gets on AP in India. Pakistan may be more common because it is predominantly a Muslim country(which is scrutinized more since 9/11), while India is not. I have not read every case on here of course, but of the cases I remember that went on AP in India, it was usually because of either a large age gap, with the woman being older, or poor documentation to prove financial sponsorship.

Are you a mixed couple, or both of Indian ethnicity? If you are both the same ethnicity, you will have a much lower chance of going on AP, in my opinion. Me and my husband are not, I am a whitey and still we didn't have problems. Also if you have a large age gap, it could cause delays(not definitely but that is another factor to consider). Sujeet is 4 years older than me, so we didn't have an age issue either.

You have to make sure he has all the documents he will need, and especially important is proof of your relationship and proof of financial support(affidavits). Just be as prepared as possible with the documents, overly prepared.

All you can do besides that is pray!

Edited by stina&suj

Married since 9-18-04(All K1 visa & GC details in timeline.)

Ishu tum he mere Prabhu:::Jesus you are my Lord

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Pakistan
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AR and AP from India and Pakistan are something that you cannot control or expedite. A congressman or senator cannot intervene on your behalf --- all they can do is inquire to the status of your case. Since 9/11 men coming from certain countries are scrunitized more closely. RIMASH in our case my husband was in AP for 5 months and it was a total black abyss. The embassy does not have to disclose anything to the USC or petitioner until they are ready to make a decision on the case. Good luck on your journey and to all those still waiting as well. Mary

PS not all men from India get stuck in long checks like in Pakistan.

Edited by MaryandMian

Everything I respond to is from personal knowledge, research or experience and I am in no means a lawyer or do I claim to be one. Everyone should read, research and be responsible for your own journey.

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Recently, I had read in many posts that Male spouses from India or Pakistan are going through extensive administrative review by FBI :ph34r: + consulates. This is really ridiculous.....

First we have to wait for so long for the immigrationi process to finish, then go through a nerve recking visa interview and then the Adminsitrative review (which could take anywhere from 5-6 months).... :ranting:

Oh God, this is crazy........

what do you guys think of this? IS THERE ANY WAY TO AVOID THIS?

Any thoughts!!!! :huh2:

Wait a minute before you freak out! :)

We went through the K1 at Delhi, and Sujeet had no problems at the interview. Not every male gets on AP in India. Pakistan may be more common because it is predominantly a Muslim country(which is scrutinized more since 9/11), while India is not. I have not read every case on here of course, but of the cases I remember that went on AP in India, it was usually because of either a large age gap, with the woman being older, or poor documentation to prove financial sponsorship.

Are you a mixed couple, or both of Indian ethnicity? If you are both the same ethnicity, you will have a much lower chance of going on AP, in my opinion. Me and my husband are not, I am a whitey and still we didn't have problems. Also if you have a large age gap, it could cause delays(not definitely but that is another factor to consider). Sujeet is 4 years older than me, so we didn't have an age issue either.

You have to make sure he has all the documents he will need, and especially important is proof of your relationship and proof of financial support(affidavits). Just be as prepared as possible with the documents, overly prepared.

All you can do besides that is pray!

yes..u guys r rite...besides..many white-indian couples have been granted visas also..witout AP...

but sum couples here have been given a hard time....guess...the consulars believe that indians are conservative wen it comes to marrying...they grant visas to other countries wit multiple divorces, kids and age gaps..they get away witout AP....weird....

still..any input as to why they hav to doubt marriages with a legal marriage certificate...and a ceremony...??????????????????does having the petitioner at interview help????

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My case was put on AP/AR for 1(One) year by the Mumbai Consulate. What started with a K3 interview eventually ended by the issuance of the IR1 visa. There is NO big age gap between me and my wife (its actually 3 months), both of us have no children, I was never married before. As for evidence, proof, had more than 15 pounds of it (yes I weighed it to find out if I need assistance to carry it to the gates of the Consulate).

We are a cross ethnic couple and Mumbai consulate is notorious for picking on cross ethnic cases (data researched on VJ and other sites since the year 2000). Some may think it an exaggeration but I could literally see the scorn in the eyes of the CO who interviewed me for the first time. Then he put me on to a Fraud Investigation Division investigator, an Indian, who ricked of the peculiar colonial age pyscopacy for his masters. Anyway, he soon realized that I was too smart to fall for his canned and cliched trick questions and ended the interview.

Well, if anyone is interested they can look up my detailed posts on VJ. And also for other posts on this and other sites. I actually got a much better treatment that what many others before me were dished out. Many were virtually tormented and tortured with demeaning questioning and barked at and called cheats and low-lives. Maybe the tactics got more tacit when my time came because the Chief Consular Officer was transferred out of the Consulate (don’t know if the way they treated some interviewees had to do anything with it).

Also I found that this is peculiar to the Mumbai Consulate and that New Delhi is much humane and reasonable in its treatment of cross ethnic couples. But then its easy to catch the virus ....

Anyway, my case was resolved literally over night when my wife contacted the State Department and wrote a letter to Ms. Rice detailing everything.

Well, I still am a bit nervous sometimes thinking that we might have stepped on some toes back in the Consular Division in Mumbai when we got our case resolved from the State Department and one never knows to what extend these people might go to settle scores. Its not helping as I write this now, since the radio in the background is blurting out about how the FBI misused the US Patriot Act against some people they didn’t like.

In the passing if the couple is only of Indian origin the consulate will fall over itself to issue them a visa ASAP.

Charuhans


K3 Timeline

06/14/2004 Receipt Date at NBC

12/22/2004 Petition Approved

01/10/2005 NVC Transferred Case to Mumbai Consulate

01/28/2005 Packet 3 collected from Consulate

02/02/2005 Packet 3 submitted

03/12/2005 Received Interview Letter dated 03/03/2005

04/04/2005 Interview : Put on Administrative Procedure / Review

04/06/2006 CR1 Visa Issued

04/24/2006 IR1 VISA ISSUED

Naturalization Timeline

02/11/2009 Mailed N400 application

03/13/2009 Biometrics appointment

05/13/2009 Interview & Oath

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: India
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I agree that visa cases with cross-ethnic couples and age difference (when the female is older) are discriminated against in India. I wonder if how many times the couple has met, how long they knew each other or lived together is factored in, at all? There hasn’t been much discussion about that here. I'm 16 years older than my fiancé and we are a cross-ethnic couple but have known each other for several years (we have snail mail letters from 2001 onwards), when I was living in India. Interview is April 13 in Chennai so let’s see what happens… :unsure:


***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I agree that visa cases with cross-ethnic couples and age difference (when the female is older) are discriminated against in India. I wonder if how many times the couple has met, how long they knew each other or lived together is factored in, at all? There hasn’t been much discussion about that here. I'm 16 years older than my fiancé and we are a cross-ethnic couple but have known each other for several years (we have snail mail letters from 2001 onwards), when I was living in India. Interview is April 13 in Chennai so let’s see what happens… :unsure:

best wishes eileen for your interview

:)


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NVC:

03/14/2007-NVC ASSIGNS CASE NUMBER

03/29/2007-AOS FEE BILL AND DS-3032 GENERATED

03/29/2007-AOS FEE BILL FEES MAILED AND DS-3032 MAILED

04/03/2007-NVC ACKNOWLEDGES CHOICE OF AGENT

04/10/2007-I.V FEE BILL GENERATED

04/18/2007-I-864 GENERATED

04/20/2007-I.V. BILL RECEIVED & MAILED TO N.V.C

04/23/2007-I-864 SENT TO NVC

04/26/2007-I.V. FEE BILL & I-864 ENTERED INTO THE NVC SYSTEM

04/30/2007-NVC BARCODE & INSTRUCTIONS FOR DS-230

05/09/2007-DS-230 SENT

05/23/2007-CASE COMPLETED

VISA APPROVED .

05/XX/2007-FLIGHT To JFK POE

another step of I-751 coming near :)

p.s. My opinion is only what i read research and get advices from experienced people.I aint any

lawyer .

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Namastey !

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Filed: Other Country: India
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I agree that visa cases with cross-ethnic couples and age difference (when the female is older) are discriminated against in India. I wonder if how many times the couple has met, how long they knew each other or lived together is factored in, at all? There hasn’t been much discussion about that here. I'm 16 years older than my fiancé and we are a cross-ethnic couple but have known each other for several years (we have snail mail letters from 2001 onwards), when I was living in India. Interview is April 13 in Chennai so let’s see what happens… :unsure:

Hope the interview goes really well!

Well, me and Sujeet had only been together on one 2 week trip(ever) before he had the visa interview. They didn't even care about that. That doesn't mean they definitely don't take that into consideration, but they didn't for us. We had proof of communicating for almost 3 years by the time his visa interview happened, even though we had only been face to face for about 2 weeks. Each consulate is different though. We were through New Delhi.

I have heard a lot of bad visa stories from out of Mumbai, like the story Charuhans wrote. They seem to give some people more problems at that consulate than at Chennai and Delhi. I don't know why.


Married since 9-18-04(All K1 visa & GC details in timeline.)

Ishu tum he mere Prabhu:::Jesus you are my Lord

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: India
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Second that

We are a mixed couple, my wife is from Bangalore we didn't go into AP, actually everything went on like a breeze. I worked and been in India several times, have a 10 year indian visa. So that might have been a contributing factor but it was never mentioned or brought up.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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hi rimash..r u guys a mixed couple???if not..then i guess..no worries..also many mixed couples hav got visa easily..even k1..so i guess...ur married....no reason to worry..i feel...if the wedding is acc to indian norms...

al the best..

take care...

Hi pinky_doc , we are Not a mixed couple..we are both punjabi and belong to Sikh religion.

The only thing is I am 6 Months older than him....but that shouldn't make a difference,,,its only 6 months... :innocent:

I am actually worried about Name checks that people are getting stuck in these days...........I know 2 families their spouses had their Visa interviews last year and are still stuck in Name checks...its been 1 year...

I just hope and Pray to god...that it shouldn't happen to my hubby!! :huh:

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Here's a plausible answer you WON't like.

'Coz you're dealing with USCIS and Dept. of State!


2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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