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I am just curious after reading about this supposed "auto expedite" that some couples who file from overseas seem to get. I live in the US, but my wife lives right over the border in Canada. Is there any reason we couldn't just mail everything using our address at her place? Would it potentially even help? Would anybody even know or care that I don't live there, but just visit often?

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You aren't a resident of Canada. You'd be lying.

ETA: When petitioners are filing from abroad they also then have to prove domicile in America. I think you may be making more work for yourself in the end and not have anything go any faster anyway.

Just file and get it going.

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USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Agreed -- your info on the forms clearly state that you are domiciled in the US - therefore there is no advantage (as possibly more headaches) if you file from Canada

good luck


USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

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Ok. As far as lying?!?! I would never lie and say I lived there. My address on the I-130 and all accompanying forms would have my accurate address in the states. My question was simply if mailing from abroad, would help. I'm going to be up there this week putting all the paperwork together anyways. It would not be dishonest at all to simply mail it while I was there.

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It is auto expedited based off the petitioner's address (if it is listed as an address abroad on the I-130). So the actual physical place where you place it in the mail won't help in anyway. Hope you the speediest of processes, good luck!


USCIS

10-24-14 : I-130 sent from South Africa to Chicago Lockbox

11-03-14 : NOA1, Case Transferred to California Service Center

11-24-14 : NOA2

NVC

12-12-14 : Case received by NVC

01-15-15 : Case # Assigned

01-15-15: DS-261 completed

01-20-15: AOS fee invoiced & paid

01-21-15: Mailed AOS & IV Packages

01-22-15: ORIGINAL SCAN DATE- both packages

01-23-15: Sent corrected AOS - caught my own mistake

02-11-15: IV bill invoiced & paid

02-14-15: DS-260 completed

04-01-15: Case Complete

04-16-15: P4 e-mail

05-14-15: Interview Date

05-25--15 : POE, time to MOVE!!!!

Removal of Conditions

04-07-2016: Form I-751 arrived at California Service Center

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I believe that what you are asking is if there is any "triage" done in the USCIS mailroom based on where mail is posted (for example, would a stamp from the Philippines automatically get the envelope processed quicker).

In any case, even if that were true, Canada is not one of those places - that type of expedite is based on turmoil in that country (i.e. the typhoon, war-torn, etc.). Sadly, just being really cold (at least right now) won't do it. ;-)

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Ok. As far as lying?!?! I would never lie and say I lived there. My address on the I-130 and all accompanying forms would have my accurate address in the states. My question was simply if mailing from abroad, would help. I'm going to be up there this week putting all the paperwork together anyways. It would not be dishonest at all to simply mail it while I was there.

Fair enough. I figured you were going to use her address as your own on the form which is the only way it would qualify as you filing from abroad. It doesn't matter where you actually mail it from. I wrongly assumed you would know that's how you'd have to fill out the form in order to be "abroad" on paper.

It doesn't matter where you send it FROM... it just matters what is on the form for your information. That's how they'll determine your information as the petitioner. That's why I was concerned about you being regarded as lying on the form. I thought you were using her address details as your own.

So again, it doesn't matter where you send it from. I sent mine from FedEx in Canada (my husband is the petitioner) and it didn't make any difference.

It takes time. Take the extra precautions now to be sure you haven't missed anything on your form and that everything you need is there. The best effort you can make is to control the accuracy of what you send. Make it easy for the person on the receiving end to look at your case. Good luck!


USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Thanks for the advice. I am not trying to "cheat" the process in any way. Just for arguments sake though, would it be considered dishonest to put "our" address in Canada on the I-130 if I made sure to list my US address as my present residence on the G325A? I'm just in a kind of gray area here I think. I usually spend 2-3 days a week in Canada and return back to the US for four days a week for work and to my US residence...EVERY WEEK. I keep a travel log, and am careful to never spend more time north than I do south, but I spend a lot of time at our place in Canada. The I-130 does not specify in the ADDRESS section whether it wants physical or mailing address. Why can't I use the BC address as my mailing address? I want to work within the rules and law absolutely, but do feel like I'm in a gray area here.

Fair enough. I figured you were going to use her address as your own on the form which is the only way it would qualify as you filing from abroad. It doesn't matter where you actually mail it from. I wrongly assumed you would know that's how you'd have to fill out the form in order to be "abroad" on paper.

It doesn't matter where you send it FROM... it just matters what is on the form for your information. That's how they'll determine your information as the petitioner. That's why I was concerned about you being regarded as lying on the form. I thought you were using her address details as your own.

So again, it doesn't matter where you send it from. I sent mine from FedEx in Canada (my husband is the petitioner) and it didn't make any difference.

It takes time. Take the extra precautions now to be sure you haven't missed anything on your form and that everything you need is there. The best effort you can make is to control the accuracy of what you send. Make it easy for the person on the receiving end to look at your case. Good luck!

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Are you a resident of Canada or visiting? If you're a resident then put that address, of you are not then you put your US address. There is no grey area.


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Are you a resident of Canada or visiting? If you're a resident then put that address, of you are not then you put your US address. There is no grey area.

That's about it. There is no grey area here as you suggested, redbeard. You either are a resident of Canada and filing abroad or you are a resident in America.

Thanks for the advice. I am not trying to "cheat" the process in any way. Just for arguments sake though, would it be considered dishonest to put "our" address in Canada on the I-130 if I made sure to list my US address as my present residence on the G325A? I'm just in a kind of gray area here I think. I usually spend 2-3 days a week in Canada and return back to the US for four days a week for work and to my US residence...EVERY WEEK. I keep a travel log, and am careful to never spend more time north than I do south, but I spend a lot of time at our place in Canada. The I-130 does not specify in the ADDRESS section whether it wants physical or mailing address. Why can't I use the BC address as my mailing address? I want to work within the rules and law absolutely, but do feel like I'm in a gray area here.

It's not about cheating but you are a resident of one place or the other. Not both. Can't be both. End of discussion. You can't file from abroad if you don't actually live abroad. And it really won't make much of a difference anyway. But if you were to establish residence in BC then you'd have to go through extra steps later to prove domicile back in America... I think I mentioned that before.

Just get your filing done. Use your address in America as your residence since that is where you residence is.


USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Are you a resident of Canada or visiting? If you're a resident then put that address, of you are not then you put your US address. There is no grey area.

Well there are plenty of people who have posted in the big thread below who say they filed from abroad "living" there on TOURIST visas who were given expedited processing. I don't see how my case is so much more cut and dry than theirs.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/357465-usc-petitioner-living-abroad/

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Well there are plenty of people who have posted in the big thread below who say they filed from abroad "living" there on TOURIST visas who were given expedited processing. I don't see how my case is so much more cut and dry than theirs.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/357465-usc-petitioner-living-abroad/

Please point out the posts. 43 pages.. i went through 5 and only 2 said they were not in the country legally, one was a typo and I think the other was a copy/paste error.


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Well that's nice... someone did something to cheat the system. Lovely.

You're not a Canadian resident and it would be against the TOS for me to suggest you do anything illegal, which IMHO, this likely is as you'd be falsifying a government document. So to put down a Canadian mailing address or home address, when you do not live in Canada, is in fact, at least in my opinion, misrepresentation and is thus illegal.

However, since I'm not a lawyer or moderator, I'll ask the powers that be what they think. :)

Have a nice day!

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