WH Spokesman: Administration's Foreign Policy Has Improved 'Tranquility Of The Global Community' - (title edited)

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I do believe that the National debt has increased more under Obama.

As the debt continues to rise,

That's what you believe. The fact, on the other hand, is that the debt almost tripled under Reagan, it more than doubled under Bush Jr. It will not double, let alone triple under Obama. Perspective is a beautiful thing. Get some.

Let me help you out with some math, American style.

Say you are owed $10, then someone else comes along and doubles that debt to $20. Then I come along an increase that debt by only $15 (not doubling it). You are now owed $35, right? As in MORE than before.

If the debt under Bush increased by $5 trillion in 8 years (rounding for simplicity here), and under Obama it has gone up $7 trillion in only 5 years... can you see where it has increased more under Obama, already? And if it continues at this rate, it will increase even more?

SMH

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Put down the pipe and back away. Facts are those Pesky things that get in the way of your blind allegiance to the left.

Reagan and Bush in the same reply. Holy 2-A's in the same post.

Scott Walker says debt projected to double under Obama

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/nov/13/scott-walker/scott-walker-says-debt-projected-double-under-obam/

That only works if you hold Obama accountable for Bush's last budget (2008-2009). When Obama took office, the first four months of that budget year had already passed. I know that you want to put the blame for that 1.2 trillion dollar deficit on Obama but the truth is that that was what he was handed from the previous administration. That and an economy in free fall. What we can talk about are the $200 billion dollars that Obama added to the 2008-2009 budget year deficit via the stimulus that he advocated and signed but not the 1.2 trillion that was already racked up when he was sworn in.

[JohnR! 5,495]

That only works if you hold Obama accountable for Bush's last budget (2008-2009). When Obama took office, the first four months of that budget year had already passed. I know that you want to put the blame for that 1.2 trillion dollar deficit on Obama but the truth is that that was what he was handed from the previous administration. That and an economy in free fall. What we can talk about are the $200 billion dollars that Obama added to the 2008-2009 budget year deficit via the stimulus that he advocated and signed but not the 1.2 trillion that was already racked up when he was sworn in.

There is something else that everyone is missing. You can look at the figures alone and they represent nothing other than an amount of money. What no one has been able to articulate is what do these figures represent? What do they mean? Did Bush fare better with his increase of 92% or did Obama with his 50%. Was the economy and the country better off after Bush's 92% than it is now after Obama's 50%? Interestingly enough that is the question that has not yet been asked.

If VJ were a place of business I would become a billionaire selling bridges....

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

There is something else that everyone is missing. You can look at the figures alone and they represent nothing other than an amount of money. What no one has been able to articulate is what do these figures represent? What do they mean? Did Bush fare better with his increase of 92% or did Obama with his 50%. Was the economy and the country better off after Bush's 92% than it is now after Obama's 50%? Interestingly enough that is the question that has not yet been asked.

If VJ were a place of business I would become a billionaire selling bridges....

You would be broke, cause you think 5 is more than 7, because it more than 2 times 4, and seven is less than 5 because it's not two times 5. SMH

Edited July 24, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[JohnR! 5,495]

Thanks for helping me make my point. You have no idea what those figures represent beyond the elementary notion that one is bigger than the other.

You would be broke, cause you think 5 is more than 7, because it more than 2 times 4, and seven is less than 5 because it's not two times 5. SMH

[Jacque67 7,328]

Thanks for helping me make my point. You have no idea what those figures represent beyond the elementary notion that one is bigger than the other.

+1

[UncleBeer 244]

There is something else that everyone is missing. You can look at the figures alone and they represent nothing other than an amount of money. What no one has been able to articulate is what do these figures represent? What do they mean? Did Bush fare better with his increase of 92% or did Obama with his 50%. Was the economy and the country better off after Bush's 92% than it is now after Obama's 50%? Interestingly enough that is the question that has not yet been asked.

If VJ were a place of business I would become a billionaire selling bridges....

Shameless, poorly-expressed obfuscation. Even FactCheck (a lefty partisan joint) says this month that:

the public has nearly doubled during Obama’s tenure, and large annual deficits are projected to continue as far as the eye can see.

Happy days, eh?

[BatmanUSA 105]

That's what you believe. The fact, on the other hand, is that the debt almost tripled under Reagan, it more than doubled under Bush Jr. It will not double, let alone triple under Obama. Perspective is a beautiful thing. Get some.

Yes, you need to get some perspective.. see the facts the others have presented since you have offered nothing except your trolling one liners and your blind repetition of Obama's talking points.. Facts and Knowledge, Intelligence is a beautiful thing, get some.

Edited July 24, 2014 by BatmanUSA

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yes, you need to get some perspective.. see the facts the others have presented since you have offered nothing except your blind repetition of Obama's talking points.. Facts and Knowledge, Intelligence is a beautiful thing, get some.

See it's like this. If have 50 bucks on my credit card, and I charge 50 more I have doubled the debt.

If I have 7000 and ad 4000, it's not nearly as bad cause I did not double it. Even though 3000 is way more than 50

Yes that logic is so blindly stupid it hurts.

[GandD 5,966]

See it's like this. If have 50 bucks on my credit card, and I charge 50 more I have doubled the debt.

If I have 7000 and ad 4000, it's not nearly as bad cause I did not double it. Even though 3000 is way more than 50

Yes that logic is so blindly stupid it hurts.

National currency is fluid in nature. It doesn't work like your (and my) little teensy weensie bank account.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

National currency is fluid in nature. It doesn't work like your (and my) little teensy weensie bank account.

Usually when someone says teensy weensie to me, it is not followed by bank account

Still the fact remains. We have added more to the national debt in Obama's 5 years than we did in Bush's eight .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

National currency is fluid in nature. It doesn't work like your (and my) little teensy weensie bank account.

You think that's going to sink in with the crowd? Not a chance. If it's past 5th grade thinking, they're lost.

Yes, you need to get some perspective.. see the facts the others have presented since you have offered nothing except your trolling one liners and your blind repetition of Obama's talking points.. Facts and Knowledge, Intelligence is a beautiful thing, get some.

I've got plenty, thank you very much. I've rebutted the "facts" earlier. Try and keep up. Hope I'm not asking too much.

[GandD 5,966]

Usually when someone says teensy weensie to me, it is not followed by bank account

Still the fact remains. We have added more to the national debt in Obama's 5 years than we did in Bush's eight .

True, the question I'm continually left with if does it matter? Look at every other major power's debt. If everyone's in debt, does that mean no ones in debt? If the private sector continues to grow wealth to less and less people, that stuff is gonna come to a head. Viva revolution!!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

True, the question I'm continually left with if does it matter? Look at every other major power's debt. If everyone's in debt, does that mean no ones in debt? If the private sector continues to grow wealth to less and less people, that stuff is gonna come to a head. Viva revolution!!

Well I guess that is the 240+ Billion dollar question, which is about what we spend to service the debt. That is about 40% of the defense budget . We only spend about 80 billion on food stamps. So yes I think it matters.

Just think how much we could do with that money or how much hard earned tax payer money we could return to those that earned it and still help the needy.

National Debt as a % of GDP can not grow for ever. The amount of debt we can handle and when it should be limited is debatable. What is not debatable is we have added a lot to it under Obama. However much like immigration, it did not start with Obama, and there is a lot of blame for both parties. Only a nit would could argue Obama has not ballooned the debt and only a nit could think h has not had a lot of help from both sides of aisle.

However as spook said we have a lot of Nits on both sides. I do consider you to have a little left lean of center, but at least you are not a nit on either end of the spectrum.

[GandD 5,966]

Well I guess that is the 240+ Billion dollar question, which is about what we spend to service the debt. That is about 40% of the defense budget . We only spend about 80 billion on food stamps. So yes I think it matters.

Just think how much we could do with that money or how much hard earned tax payer money we could return to those that earned it and still help the needy.

National Debt as a % of GDP can not grow for ever. The amount of debt we can handle and when it should be limited is debatable. What is not debatable is we have added a lot to it under Obama. However much like immigration, it did not start with Obama, and there is a lot of blame for both parties. Only a nit would could argue Obama has not ballooned the debt and only a nit could think h has not had a lot of help from both sides of aisle.

However as spook said we have a lot of Nits on both sides. I do consider you to have a little left lean of center, but at least you are not a nit on either end of the spectrum.

Why can't it keep growing? What's gonna happen? The entire world economy needs to be rethought. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens in our lifetime. Every major power is completely in debt. What's wrong with this picture?