Q: Report of Marriage, Passport renewal? - different U.S. embassy jurisdictions?

[RK_and_Inday 10]

Dear Fellow VJ members,

We (Inday and RK) have read over past ROM (Report of Marriage) and passport renewal posts (plus requirements listed on embassy sites) for both ROM and passport renewal so we understand the general idea as well as are aware of details of submissions. We are just seeking some clarifications for our particular situation.

Here is our situation: In February of 2012, married in a U.S. state for which SF embassy has jurisdiction. Since December 2011 until now, living in a U.S. state for which Chicago embassy has jursidiction. Didn't fill out ROM previously--did nto find out about this form until a little while ago. Inday's Philippine passport still in maiden name but would like to renew with chosen married name (Inday maiden-as-middle husband-surname-as-last). Inday's passport not up for renewal for another year or two, however, thinking to renew prior to a hoped for visit to Philippines in beginning of July of this year. We understand ROM must be done prior to passport renewal in order to get passport with chosen married name. There are no outreach programs near or anyway close to our current residence that we know of so looks like a trip to Chicago and/or SF will be required.

Questions:

1. Do we have to send ROM to SF and do passport renewal in Chicago? Or can both be done, say, at Chicago?

2. Whatever the case, do we have time to get renewed passport before July?

3. Is/are there any other considerations which we should be aware of in our case of which any of you may be aware?

Thank you much--you all have been very helpful to and informative for us over the years and all is appreciated.

Most Sincerely,

Inday and RK

[Caryh 5,206]

You must report the marriage at the consulate with jurisdiction over the location the marriage took place.

ROM in San Fran, this can be done via mail.

Passport needs to be done in person, you can't do this via the mail. So best to do it in Chicago. You will need your ROM copy returned to you before you can change her name in the passport.

[Hank_ 9,173]

Dear Fellow VJ members,

We (Inday and RK) have read over past ROM (Report of Marriage) and passport renewal posts (plus requirements listed on embassy sites) for both ROM and passport renewal so we understand the general idea as well as are aware of details of submissions. We are just seeking some clarifications for our particular situation.

Here is our situation: In February of 2012, married in a U.S. state for which SF embassy has jurisdiction. Since December 2011 until now, living in a U.S. state for which Chicago embassy has jursidiction. Didn't fill out ROM previously--did nto find out about this form until a little while ago. Inday's Philippine passport still in maiden name but would like to renew with chosen married name (Inday maiden-as-middle husband-surname-as-last). Inday's passport not up for renewal for another year or two, however, thinking to renew prior to a hoped for visit to Philippines in beginning of July of this year. We understand ROM must be done prior to passport renewal in order to get passport with chosen married name. There are no outreach programs near or anyway close to our current residence that we know of so looks like a trip to Chicago and/or SF will be required.

Questions:

1. Do we have to send ROM to SF and do passport renewal in Chicago? Or can both be done, say, at Chicago?

2. Whatever the case, do we have time to get renewed passport before July?

3. Is/are there any other considerations which we should be aware of in our case of which any of you may be aware?

Thank you much--you all have been very helpful to and informative for us over the years and all is appreciated.

Most Sincerely,

Inday and RK

The Report of Marriage must be done at the consulate that has jurisdiction over the state where you were married. This can by done by mail, does not have be be done in person.

Renewal of passport must be done in person, but you have time to do that later.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Dear Fellow VJ members,

We (Inday and RK) have read over past ROM (Report of Marriage) and passport renewal posts (plus requirements listed on embassy sites) for both ROM and passport renewal so we understand the general idea as well as are aware of details of submissions. We are just seeking some clarifications for our particular situation.

Here is our situation: In February of 2012, married in a U.S. state for which SF embassy has jurisdiction. Since December 2011 until now, living in a U.S. state for which Chicago embassy has jursidiction. Didn't fill out ROM previously--did nto find out about this form until a little while ago. Inday's Philippine passport still in maiden name but would like to renew with chosen married name (Inday maiden-as-middle husband-surname-as-last). Inday's passport not up for renewal for another year or two, however, thinking to renew prior to a hoped for visit to Philippines in beginning of July of this year. We understand ROM must be done prior to passport renewal in order to get passport with chosen married name. There are no outreach programs near or anyway close to our current residence that we know of so looks like a trip to Chicago and/or SF will be required.

Questions:

1. Do we have to send ROM to SF and do passport renewal in Chicago? Or can both be done, say, at Chicago?

2. Whatever the case, do we have time to get renewed passport before July?

3. Is/are there any other considerations which we should be aware of in our case of which any of you may be aware?

Thank you much--you all have been very helpful to and informative for us over the years and all is appreciated.

Most Sincerely,

Inday and RK

You will do ROM in the jurisdiction that your marriage took place and now that you live in Chicago you must appear in person to change the passport. The ROM takes about 2 weeks as we just completed our this week. We have an outreach here in NC next week (your right, you need the ROM completed so that you can change the passport) from the Phil Embassy Washington DC. I am not sure how long the passport will take. You can call the consulate in Chicago and ask them or maybe some one here will give you an answer as I am curious also. But we are not traveling any time soon so we are not pressed for time.

[sweet cakes 326]

You will do ROM in the jurisdiction that your marriage took place and now that you live in Chicago you must appear in person to change the passport. The ROM takes about 2 weeks as we just completed our this week. We have an outreach here in NC next week (your right, you need the ROM completed so that you can change the passport) from the Phil Embassy Washington DC. I am not sure how long the passport will take. You can call the consulate in Chicago and ask them or maybe some one here will give you an answer as I am curious also. But we are not traveling any time soon so we are not pressed for time.

The published lead time for passport processing at PH consulate in Chicago is 6 - 8 weeks from the date of application. http://www.chicagopcg.com/

This is actually faster than NY's, which is 8 - 10 weeks. All passports are printed in DFA Manila, so that accounts for the long lead time. Not sure how reliable these published lead times are though.

[Hank_ 9,173]

For my wife when she renewed her passport it took about 4 weeks for her to get the new one after attending an outreach event. I was impressed with the speed.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Hank_, on 17 Apr 2014 - 4:40 PM, said:

For my wife when she renewed her passport it took about 4 weeks for her to get the new one after attending an outreach event. I was impressed with the speed.

That is fast. I was thinking more along the lines that SweetCakes stated. Anyways, we are not in any hurry but the opportunity to attend an outreach and get it done so if an when we may need to use her passport, all the paperwork is in order. I hate rushing around.

[Caryh 5,206]

For my wife when she renewed her passport it took about 4 weeks for her to get the new one after attending an outreach event. I was impressed with the speed.

Took my wife's 6 weeks a couple years ago through a Chicago consulate, we applied at an outreach program in Minnesota. At the time they published it would take four weeks.

[RK_and_Inday 10]

Caryh, Hank, Greenbaum, Cakes--

Thank you all for the replies and the information. Summarizing: OK, ROM at SF by mail; wait for return of ROM before apply passport. Then, renew passport in Chicago in person. Chicago embassy published passport processing time 6 to 8 weeks, although Hank's wife received in 4 weeks after attending outreach event. BTW, Hank, we think we may have seen previous post by you that you did ROM at outreach event also. That is one reason we wondered if we could do ROM and passport at same time at same consulate. Thank you much for the responses.

RK and Inday

[Hank_ 9,173]

Caryh, Hank, Greenbaum, Cakes--

Thank you all for the replies and the information. Summarizing: OK, ROM at SF by mail; wait for return of ROM before apply passport. Then, renew passport in Chicago in person. Chicago embassy published passport processing time 6 to 8 weeks, although Hank's wife received in 4 weeks after attending outreach event. BTW, Hank, we think we may have seen previous post by you that you did ROM at outreach event also. That is one reason we wondered if we could do ROM and passport at same time at same consulate. Thank you much for the responses.

RK and Inday

Yup that is correct, we did ROM and passport renewal at the same time.

No you can not do ROM and passport renewal at the same time, your ROM has to be done in S.F. and your passport renewal in Chicago.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Yup that is correct, we did ROM and passport renewal at the same time.

No you can not do ROM and passport renewal at the same time, your ROM has to be done in S.F. and your passport renewal in Chicago.

Philippine Embassy in Washington would not allow us to do both ROM and Pass Renew at the same time. Stated that I must have ROM completed before making the appointment. Otherwise...

Edited April 18, 2014 by Greenbaum

[Hank_ 9,173]

Philippine Embassy in Washington would not allow us to do both ROM and Pass Renew at the same time. Stated that I must have ROM completed before making the appointment. Otherwise...

You're kidding!! That is weird for sure.

We had all the forms ready when we drove to Phoenix for the outreach event, when it was our turn we handed the consulate person everything he sorted through it, stamped this and that, then we were on our way home. Week or so later the notated copy of one of the ROM forms arrived in the mail and about a month later the passport arrived. Very quick service all done in one motion.

Next for my wife will be when she does dual citizenship. We will watch for an outreach event for that as well.

[Caryh 5,206]

You're kidding!! That is weird for sure.

We had all the forms ready when we drove to Phoenix for the outreach event, when it was our turn we handed the consulate person everything he sorted through it, stamped this and that, then we were on our way home. Week or so later the notated copy of one of the ROM forms arrived in the mail and about a month later the passport arrived. Very quick service all done in one motion.

Next for my wife will be when she does dual citizenship. We will watch for an outreach event for that as well.

Well if you read the rules for a name change in a passport, the copy of the report of marriage is required to file. But in the past, most consulates have allowed both to be done at the same time. I wonder if this is a new rule, or a new person that didn't understand that reporting the marriage and applying for an updated passport can be done at the same time? Although the people working with the consulate have always been nice and friendly, I've also noticed often you get opinions and not real factual answers from some of them. Kind of like asking for directions in the Philippines, people will tell you how to get somewhere even when they don't know where it is themselves, they just want to be helpful.

[RK_and_Inday 10]

Hank and Greenbaum - Thank you for the follow-up posts, information, and continuing discussion.

Caryh - After going back over more old(er) posts, we also noticed that ROM and passport renewals were done at same time by certain individuasl. Also, some posts showed individuals doing passport renewals at embassy which was not their jurisdiction. Plus, we recently had friend who went to embassy that was not their jurisdiction and there, did ROM and passport renewal at same time. So we were wondering if we could go to any embassy (either in our case) and to ROM and passport renewal at same time in order to expedite the process. Caryh, we too are wondering if different consulate workers provide different answers (opinions) -- a common thread we have noticed during much of this whole visa process. In contrasting respect, VJ has been a Godsend to us over the years, with so many helpful persons here having "blazed the trail"; hard to beat the word of experience! Thank you all.

RK and Inday

P.S. We emailed the Chicago embassy directly, described our situation, and asked if could to boht ROM and passport renewal at same time at Chicago (or SF). Until now have received no response.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Let us know what you find out from your email. Curious here.