Murders and rapes going unreported in no-go zones

[lostinblue 1,989]

Murders and rapes going unreported in no-go zones for police as minority communities launch own justice systems

• Rise in 'community justice' in Midlands cutting number of police calls
• Forces warn genital mutilations and honour killings are being kept hidden
• Follows conviction of Muslim Patrol group last year for 'enforcing sharia law'

By Sara Smyth

PUBLISHED: 20:51 EST, 17 January 2014 | UPDATED: 10:13 EST, 18 January 2014

Parts of the UK are becoming no-go areas for police because minority communities are operating their own justice systems, according to the Chief Inspector of Constabulary.

The rise in ‘community justice’ means crimes as serious as murder and sexual abuse are going unreported – a situation reminiscent of Belfast in the height of the Troubles.

Tom Winsor said police officers were simply never called to some neighbourhoods, where law-abiding people rather than criminals administer their own form of justice

‘It’s not that the police are afraid to go into these areas or don’t want to go into those areas,’ he said. ‘But if the police don’t get calls for help then, of course, they won’t know what’s going on.’

Honour killings, domestic violence, sexual abuse of children and female genital mutilations are some of the offences that are believed to be unreported in some cities.

Last December, three members of a self-styled ‘Muslim Patrol’ vigilante group were jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people in East London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law.

Chief Inspector of Constabulary Tom Winsor warns police officers are never called to some areas

In an interview with The Times, Mr Winsor said: ‘It could be anything. [Honour killings] are the most extreme case. That is murder. There is no honour in it.’ Tory MP Douglas Carswell said the rising number of unreported crimes was a damning indictment of our police.

He told the Mail last night: ‘Directly elected police commissioners are an attempt to give people a direct say over the way people are policed. Elsewhere the administering of justice often is ineffective and there is a great deal of incompetence in the system.

‘People don’t feel they can count on their police. Instead of placing blame with ethnic minorities, we should ask what it is that is wrong with the criminal justice system.’

Although Mr Winsor did not specifically refer to any ethnic group, there have been growing concerns over the emergence of sharia courts in some Muslim communities.

Senior police officers said they disagreed with the description given by Mr Winsor, who became chief inspector in October 2012. He is the first person from a non-police background to hold the post.

But Chris Sims, Chief Constable of West Midlands Police, said: ‘I don’t know if he’s talking about Birmingham, but I have only had one conversation with him since he took office and it wasn’t about this.

‘His characterisation of these communities as born under other skies is just wrong. Many members of communities in Birmingham are British-born and I find that a very odd expression.’

Mr Winsor insisted that public trust in the police needed to be restored for a functioning justice system.

He said the police ‘are not a paramilitary force – they are citizens in uniform’.

A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain said: ‘We all rely on the police to protect our communities and this can be only done through full co-operation and partnership.

‘Co-operation is particularly important for Muslim communities who have experienced a rise in Islamophobic hate crimes.’

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[lostinblue 1,989]

Honour killings, domestic violence, sexual abuse of children and female genital mutilations are some of the offences that are believed to be unreported in some cities.

We can see why the brits have fewer violent crimes....Just don't report it. Then claim it is our gun cuture for more violence.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ooh a suspiciously timely UK thread, posted for the purposes of discussion, naturally.

[Novembro 1,763]

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You know it's not a day unless there's a thread attacking an entire group of people for the actions of a few.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You know it's not a day unless there's a thread attacking an entire group of people for the actions of a few.

You know you're up for a good 'discussion' when the OP posts and runs.

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Murders and rapes going unreported in no-go zones for police as minority communities launch own justice systems

why would someone post about crime & laws in a country they don't live in or ever plan on going to?

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I see what you did

[decocker 7,198]

this is the murican boys club now lazarou go have yer tea!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm willing to bet my knowledge of the USA is better than his knowledge of the UK ;-)

this is the murican boys club now lazarou go have yer tea!

Its a form of group masturbation.

[SMOKE 1,426]

this is the murican boys club now lazarou go have yer tea!

careful. there is a difference in murica & murika.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I'm willing to bet my knowledge of the USA is better than his knowledge of the UK ;-)

Its a form of group masturbation.

before you hurt yourself patting yourself on the back, we never lived there & honestly don't give a damn about the UK.

[decocker 7,198]

I'm willing to bet my knowledge of the USA is better than his knowledge of the UK ;-)

Its a form of group masturbation.

current events and hot social topic circle jerk! (and then tea)

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You know you're up for a good 'discussion' when the OP posts and runs.

Lost is good for about 2 posts before facts make their way into the discussion. Then he goes away.

[decocker 7,198]

careful. there is a difference in murica & murika.

a k?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

before you hurt yourself patting yourself on the back, we never lived there & honestly don't give a damn about the UK.

No kidding.